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do it full time and get 5 days on, 4 days off.....
I hear MOL really likes gullible youngsters such as yourself. When you work out what a terrible mistake you've made (that should take about 10 mins), be sure to join REPA.
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I was merely stating the roster to planeshipcar
The answer to the question posed at the top of this thread, is that Ryanair are not sympathetic to those seeking part-time work (and that is an understatement).
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Strewth- can't you take 'no' for an answer? Why should they give out part-time through agencies and not to those on direct contracts? I mean- you really are flogging that one to death, aren't you? At the age of 21, why are you so desperately concerned at part-time? Wouldn't you say at this stage is it important to build up rapid experience? In the company I am in now, a lot of young pilots are not even taking their full leave so they can build experience quickly!
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Jinkster
I have been reading some of your recent posts and you seem to have swallowed some Ryanair propaganda hook line and sinker. You are in for a very heavy landing I fear my friend. I do genuinely wish you the best but I wonder if you will have changed your tune after 6 months. I certainly did. Although so concerned was I that I would be made an example of by my employer I had to take a new username solely for Ryanair related topics on PPRuNe. So maybe we won't hear from you again either.
P.S The 5/4 is not 5/4. You do sim on days off for example. Ryanair can also change it to 5/2 5/3 at their whim multiple times a year. It says so in your contrac...... Whoops! Silly me, did they even give a copy of your contract?
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Rainboe:
Oh dear, oh dear. You, quite obviously, are not familiar with the ways of Ryanair. This is exactly the case. There are numerous, I repeat, numerous flavours and varieties of contracts on offer to Pilots in Ryanair both full time and contract. It is quite often the case that so called Brookfield "contractors" (They are in effect full time employees) are offered conditions of employment favorouable to existing employees. The situation where a F/O is earning a multiple of the Captain he sits beside is not unheard of.
As for part time work, it is a closely gaurded secret that there is 5 on 10 off available for a select few Brookfield Pilots. As with most things in Ryanair only if you shout the loudest and threaten the most might you get it.
I have been reading some of your recent posts and you seem to have swallowed some Ryanair propaganda hook line and sinker. You are in for a very heavy landing I fear my friend. I do genuinely wish you the best but I wonder if you will have changed your tune after 6 months. I certainly did. Although so concerned was I that I would be made an example of by my employer I had to take a new username solely for Ryanair related topics on PPRuNe. So maybe we won't hear from you again either.
P.S The 5/4 is not 5/4. You do sim on days off for example. Ryanair can also change it to 5/2 5/3 at their whim multiple times a year. It says so in your contrac...... Whoops! Silly me, did they even give a copy of your contract?
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Rainboe:
Why should they give out part-time through agencies and not to those on direct contracts?
As for part time work, it is a closely gaurded secret that there is 5 on 10 off available for a select few Brookfield Pilots. As with most things in Ryanair only if you shout the loudest and threaten the most might you get it.
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Carmoisine, I reckon you're bang on about Jinkster. I've looked at a few his posts too and the fall from the height he's at is gonna result in a very very painful landing. I give him about 3 months tops. 
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Rainboe,
It seems that a few Brookfields do have very different contracts and as stated 5 on 10 off.
You are a rude tw*t.
I have to say I'm shocked that so many of you don't understand the economics of Ryan and contract pilots from agenices. They try their hardest to have as many outside pilots contracted in!
Read through pprune slower and don't skim over stuff it will stop you looking like stupid fools!
Happy New Year
It seems that a few Brookfields do have very different contracts and as stated 5 on 10 off.
You are a rude tw*t.
I have to say I'm shocked that so many of you don't understand the economics of Ryan and contract pilots from agenices. They try their hardest to have as many outside pilots contracted in!
Read through pprune slower and don't skim over stuff it will stop you looking like stupid fools!
Happy New Year
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Who is the rude one? You can keep your Happy New Years to yourself, young man, until you get better manners. How easy it is to use anonymity to hide abuse like that! Pathetic really. If you know the answer, go to Brookfields and come back and tell us then! In fact it would have saved a load of hard disk space if you'd asked them in the first place! I happen to know because a friend of mine was approached more than once to join Ryanair- he was only willing to work part time, and that was declined by Ryanair more than once. So....if the answer was as simple as joining an agency, I think there would have been a way. So....why can't you take 'no' for an answer?
You're not even a professional pilot anyway, are you? So dream on.
You're not even a professional pilot anyway, are you? So dream on.
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I have to say I'm shocked that so many of you don't understand the economics of Ryan and contract pilots from agenices.
BTW, if you really want to confirm your ignorance you can tell us what BRK or FR tell you and then tell us you believe them. It might be better to try speaking to a few of the many pilots who got told things that never quite materialised. That's the real "economic reality".
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1. I had to re ask my question because all the replies were oblivious to contracting. Not one answer referred to agencies. You assumed Ryans set up was only 5 day on 4 off which is for their personal employees, this varies copnsiderably from the different agencies that a large proportion of Ryanair are employed with?
My question is very clearly asking a route to 50% contract or to part time work in an airline not neccesarily Ryan - ANY.
2 I have researched other airlines now including Easyjet and BA who offer 50% contracts to pilots, there are many more which I still have to look into. Why didn't you answer my question? Someone said 'No, can't you get the message. What pisses me off was they were patently wrong and were rude and incredibly un helpful and misleeding, insulting and deserved to be called what they were. Their ansere 'no' was bollocks.
So with the information that Ryan and and other airlines have part time pilots I have no idea how I can be critised by those who say I haven't got as much knowledege.
Go figure?
My question is very clearly asking a route to 50% contract or to part time work in an airline not neccesarily Ryan - ANY.
2 I have researched other airlines now including Easyjet and BA who offer 50% contracts to pilots, there are many more which I still have to look into. Why didn't you answer my question? Someone said 'No, can't you get the message. What pisses me off was they were patently wrong and were rude and incredibly un helpful and misleeding, insulting and deserved to be called what they were. Their ansere 'no' was bollocks.
So with the information that Ryan and and other airlines have part time pilots I have no idea how I can be critised by those who say I haven't got as much knowledege.
Go figure?
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I have researched other airlines now including Easyjet and BA who offer 50% contracts to pilots,
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What was the final outcome of the BA first officer who wanted to go part time to look after her child? I recall they refused it to her due to her experience levels however if she had over 1500hrs or something, then it could be possible. She took them to court and BALPA supported her case.
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It's the Starmer case, which was won by her. Search should get there, but I'm sure planetractorcar could quote you chapter and verse. He thinks it will apply to him.
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Rainboe give it a rest mate.
Your initial post on this topic was misleading, both do forms of part-time given certain conditions.
BTW I work for Ryanair and used to work for Easyjet.
Your initial post on this topic was misleading, both do forms of part-time given certain conditions.
BTW I work for Ryanair and used to work for Easyjet.
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