TFLY day 1
Sorry to hear that the pfo letters are out, as you say, there is always next year. I still have not heard. 
and I thought my maths was awful so it will not be long, my inbox is probably full!
and I thought my maths was awful so it will not be long, my inbox is probably full!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I would like to know if anyone has any insight into the recruitment process. I too thought I did really well at the math, I had 2 questions left and am sure I answered most of them correctly. The verbal is harder to assess. We didn't do group exercises. Do you believe that they look into the psycho to determine whether we are fit or not and base a decision on it before stage 2? We were told that they use it during stage 2 for an interview with the psychic, sorry, the psychologist but still, I wonder. Any inkling much appreciated. Life goes on at TFly, without me.....
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I did pants on the maths but I got through and passed day 2 but now its all gone quiet, rumour has it that they may be holding back on recruiting now for a while, which sounds strange when they are still putting people in the sim 
Now new Euro legislation has come in to stop age-ism, they have stopped command courses for existing FOs but have probably used it as an excuse to stop new entries. Now captains can stay on beyond 60 (to 65) so there are a load of 61 year olds planning to move back into the left seat.
Might be the reasoning? If so, bad news for future roster-fodder.
Might be the reasoning? If so, bad news for future roster-fodder.
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: UK, In the middle at the bottom and sometimes in LHR!
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Had the good news the other day,
was going for the 22nd for the sim assessment, but that day is full so hopefully going either on the 23rd or the 24th August.
M.
was going for the 22nd for the sim assessment, but that day is full so hopefully going either on the 23rd or the 24th August.
M.
Join Date: May 2000
Location: SV Marie Celeste
Posts: 655
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
"Have used it as an excuse to stop new entries"
No excuse needed. No DEC if suitable candidates exist within. Full stop. Why do we need to offer any excuse to anybody?
No excuse needed. No DEC if suitable candidates exist within. Full stop. Why do we need to offer any excuse to anybody?
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: London
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Anyone else heard that they're not looking at processing anyone any further at this stage? My sources tell me they're pretty much full and no more job offers are imminent - anyone else?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
has anybody asked for and been successful getting feedback from satge 1? I have sent an email and called once but no luck so far. I know the HR team is small and doesn't have time, just hoping they don't throw away all our paperwork in the meantime...
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: uk
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
FBOZH,
I share your confusion. I was there on the 5th July and did not receive my results until very recently, contrary to the 7 or 8 days as promised. I didn't get through yet I have a background in teaching these kind of tests and found the assessments a none event (although you never know for sure). I have friends who blundered their way through the same tests and are now working for this company. I know I did well yet I didn't reach the required grade. I could be entirely wrong but something fishy has gone on in HR or they have not been honest regarding the reason for the knock back. Thomson fly, I respectfully suggest you have a little look at HR recruiters.
I share your confusion. I was there on the 5th July and did not receive my results until very recently, contrary to the 7 or 8 days as promised. I didn't get through yet I have a background in teaching these kind of tests and found the assessments a none event (although you never know for sure). I have friends who blundered their way through the same tests and are now working for this company. I know I did well yet I didn't reach the required grade. I could be entirely wrong but something fishy has gone on in HR or they have not been honest regarding the reason for the knock back. Thomson fly, I respectfully suggest you have a little look at HR recruiters.
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: uk
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thomson-Cook,
I feel a little sorry for those you refer to as friends, I'm sure their performance was up to scratch. I can't help but think that in fact your performance on the tests was not to the required standard. I really looks as simple as that. If you found them a breeze and yet those who got through found them taxing then maybe you are just not doing it right. As for feed back, whilst it is important for assessments like sims and interviews these are just standard tests that can be found on the internet (search tfly and ba threads for links). Why not just do those online tests or buy a book and see your own 'feedback'. Just a suggestion.
I feel a little sorry for those you refer to as friends, I'm sure their performance was up to scratch. I can't help but think that in fact your performance on the tests was not to the required standard. I really looks as simple as that. If you found them a breeze and yet those who got through found them taxing then maybe you are just not doing it right. As for feed back, whilst it is important for assessments like sims and interviews these are just standard tests that can be found on the internet (search tfly and ba threads for links). Why not just do those online tests or buy a book and see your own 'feedback'. Just a suggestion.
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: North West, UK
Age: 56
Posts: 714
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Could it be that you were very good at the maths and English part of the test, but the personality profile showed you as an odd ball?
How would that fit in if that was the case. You can add up and write a good letter but you are a nightmare to be sat next to for 10 hours ???
I worked very hard for the 2 weeks on the maths which got me through that part. The English I thought was a nightmare but still did my best.
The personality profile, I was just as honest as can be.
Yes, I did my best and did not find the assessments a none event as you say.
I sat at Luton before my stage 1, listening to everyone talking about who they already fly for etc etc etc etc.
I just kept quite and got on with it.
Thomson Fly, thank you soooooo much for giving me the chance.
I know a guy who has a 737 rating and about 1000 hours on type. He failed stage 1.
What does that say. Is it the rated guys they are looking for regardless of personality and the amount of preparation for the maths and English they have done or is it the correct personality and someone who prepares for the event they are looking for.
And I passed, I am sooooo pleased to of passed stage 1. Cannot believe it.
Just waiting to be called for stage 2 and preparing to get that right on the day.
Lots of practice currently being done in my friends home built 757 static sim in his garage and a couple of hours will be spent in the real thing before the big day.
http://www.boeingsimulator.com/
Do I want this job, believe me I do.
Preparation, preparation, preparation. That is the key.
Sorry for any poor grammar as I am not a bright as some.
How would that fit in if that was the case. You can add up and write a good letter but you are a nightmare to be sat next to for 10 hours ???
I worked very hard for the 2 weeks on the maths which got me through that part. The English I thought was a nightmare but still did my best.
The personality profile, I was just as honest as can be.
Yes, I did my best and did not find the assessments a none event as you say.
I sat at Luton before my stage 1, listening to everyone talking about who they already fly for etc etc etc etc.
I just kept quite and got on with it.
Thomson Fly, thank you soooooo much for giving me the chance.
I know a guy who has a 737 rating and about 1000 hours on type. He failed stage 1.
What does that say. Is it the rated guys they are looking for regardless of personality and the amount of preparation for the maths and English they have done or is it the correct personality and someone who prepares for the event they are looking for.
And I passed, I am sooooo pleased to of passed stage 1. Cannot believe it.
Just waiting to be called for stage 2 and preparing to get that right on the day.
Lots of practice currently being done in my friends home built 757 static sim in his garage and a couple of hours will be spent in the real thing before the big day.
http://www.boeingsimulator.com/
Do I want this job, believe me I do.
Preparation, preparation, preparation. That is the key.
Sorry for any poor grammar as I am not a bright as some.
Last edited by EGCC4284; 13th Aug 2006 at 18:15.
Is there anyone else who has been told the dates are now full? I sat stage one on the 5th July. I applied for one of the dates in Aug as soon as I got the email but now I have to wait till the next session. Oh well, it gives me more time to practice raw data ILS's.
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My feeling is that their recruitment seems to have stopped for now.
The fact that they can fly some of their captains for a few more years and I would guess that the security issues recently have put the brakes on any immediate requirement.
I passed day 2 about a month back now and have heard no more news from them. Oh well
The fact that they can fly some of their captains for a few more years and I would guess that the security issues recently have put the brakes on any immediate requirement.
I passed day 2 about a month back now and have heard no more news from them. Oh well
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 453
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Recruitment is still ongoing as I have recently done day 2. However I got the PFO letter saying my sim wasn't up to their standard. For someone with no jet experience whatsoever I thought I made a reasonable attempt at it (obviously not). The flying was far from perfect but wasn't that bad. I am not sure what they expected from someone who has no jet time but I obviously didn't have it. I had studied all the CRM stuff so that I knew it in my sleep so am not sure exactly what went wrong.
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: uk
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
6 guys I know all with varying jet experience some with 737 type ratings and my self with 1700hrs turbo prop all failed on the sim .and I ll go out on a limb here and say I flew the sim sortie well, I left the interview 1600 on a thursday got a "sorry but you failed the sim" letter the next morning at 0900. could be they are super efficient but when guys are waiting weeks and weeks to hear the outcome of their assesments . I cant help thinking my letter was written ready to go before I even left the building. We all could be not good enough for Tfly which is fair enough but I do doubt that. more likley changing crew requirements,