Flybe Management Reshuffle.
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FF,
I suggest you do your homework before writing scurrilous rumours.
MW remains the Flt Ops Director of Fly Be reporting to the CEO. All that has happened is that there has been a management reorganisation prior to the expected flotation of the Company on the stock market.
As far as impugning an individual’s integrity I suggest you take a long hard look in the mirror before you do so again. Any individual, such as you, who admits to taking a “sickie”, thereby, placing the burden on a colleague does not deserve to be part of our profession.
I suggest you do your homework before writing scurrilous rumours.
MW remains the Flt Ops Director of Fly Be reporting to the CEO. All that has happened is that there has been a management reorganisation prior to the expected flotation of the Company on the stock market.
As far as impugning an individual’s integrity I suggest you take a long hard look in the mirror before you do so again. Any individual, such as you, who admits to taking a “sickie”, thereby, placing the burden on a colleague does not deserve to be part of our profession.
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Gents,
I realise this is a little off subject but;
If so many pilots have left why is it so pigging difficult for me to get an interview to replace one of these departed crew members?
I have written at least 10 times to J S & D D.
What do I have to do to start experiencing some of your problems?
I hope you can offer some advice.
Thanks
FB
I realise this is a little off subject but;
If so many pilots have left why is it so pigging difficult for me to get an interview to replace one of these departed crew members?
I have written at least 10 times to J S & D D.
What do I have to do to start experiencing some of your problems?
I hope you can offer some advice.
Thanks
FB
Not short of pilots, A, it's sort of experienced pilots unfortunately.
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RD and FF, you really do talk some rubbish.
RD, if the company offered you a full time job then why, when they are recruiting for both full time (on the Dash) and contract (on the 146) in large numbers did they not take you on as a contractor?? after all you are a 146 rated Captain!
FF, for your info the FOD is still there and will remain there for the forseeable future, so whats all this about him having left?
The thing about sickness is also crap, it is obvious to me that you used to work for flybe but have since left under some sort of cloud that has left you sad bitter and twisted!
RD, if the company offered you a full time job then why, when they are recruiting for both full time (on the Dash) and contract (on the 146) in large numbers did they not take you on as a contractor?? after all you are a 146 rated Captain!
FF, for your info the FOD is still there and will remain there for the forseeable future, so whats all this about him having left?
The thing about sickness is also crap, it is obvious to me that you used to work for flybe but have since left under some sort of cloud that has left you sad bitter and twisted!
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"prior to the expected flotation of the Company on the stock market"
Who in the right mind would buy this company? With over 100 pilots having to be replaced in less than a year!
No Airline or Investment company is going to touch Flybe with an attrition rate that clearly dictates that the company is in a mess.
Pilots are leaving before they have even started. Two pilots have this week left after 3 weeks work. Now tell me this is a steady ship.
As for you wanabees keep sending in your CV. Each department is as bad as each other and HQ is down in sleepy Exeter so not much gets done fast. Flybe employs anybody. Heard today they are looking at monkeys. The ones without the red bum!
Who in the right mind would buy this company? With over 100 pilots having to be replaced in less than a year!
No Airline or Investment company is going to touch Flybe with an attrition rate that clearly dictates that the company is in a mess.
Pilots are leaving before they have even started. Two pilots have this week left after 3 weeks work. Now tell me this is a steady ship.
As for you wanabees keep sending in your CV. Each department is as bad as each other and HQ is down in sleepy Exeter so not much gets done fast. Flybe employs anybody. Heard today they are looking at monkeys. The ones without the red bum!
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Couple of silly things here.
jonni
There is no recruitment on the 146 for contract pilots. If you don't believe me, try calling around the contract companies and see if anyone is recruiting for flybe - nobody is. If you believe differently, by all means name the contract company being used.
I was offered a Q400 position as that is where the shortages are. However, I have no desire to get involved in bonds (at the moment), so I declined.
Flying Fiona
You know so little, it is almost comical.
If you really believe that investors place a lot of stock in pilot turnover, you don't know much about running a business either.
You are probably also not aware that many companies (in and out of aviation) are quite happy with high staff turnover. In many cases, it actually lowers costs - mainly the social costs involved in employing staff.
Pilots leaving "before they have started" says nothing at all about flybe, and quite a lot about the industry in general.
Now I imagine you will need to pull another sickie to think about all that. Guess somebody will be getting called off standby tommorrow...
jonni
There is no recruitment on the 146 for contract pilots. If you don't believe me, try calling around the contract companies and see if anyone is recruiting for flybe - nobody is. If you believe differently, by all means name the contract company being used.
I was offered a Q400 position as that is where the shortages are. However, I have no desire to get involved in bonds (at the moment), so I declined.
Flying Fiona
You know so little, it is almost comical.
If you really believe that investors place a lot of stock in pilot turnover, you don't know much about running a business either.
You are probably also not aware that many companies (in and out of aviation) are quite happy with high staff turnover. In many cases, it actually lowers costs - mainly the social costs involved in employing staff.
Pilots leaving "before they have started" says nothing at all about flybe, and quite a lot about the industry in general.
Now I imagine you will need to pull another sickie to think about all that. Guess somebody will be getting called off standby tommorrow...
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FF,
Why do you continue to claim that MW has gone when he hasn't?
Why do you claim that 2 pilots have left after just 3 weeks work when they haven't?
Why do you claim that the sickness rate (Which is not that high anyway) has gone down by 25% when it hasn't?
Why is it in previous posts you have claimed to have flown the 777 for several years and then later claim to have been offered a 777 job but turned it down?
I think I see you now for what you are.......Full of
!!!!!
I shall now add you to my ignor list so I don't have to read any more of your drivel!!
Why do you continue to claim that MW has gone when he hasn't?
Why do you claim that 2 pilots have left after just 3 weeks work when they haven't?
Why do you claim that the sickness rate (Which is not that high anyway) has gone down by 25% when it hasn't?
Why is it in previous posts you have claimed to have flown the 777 for several years and then later claim to have been offered a 777 job but turned it down?
I think I see you now for what you are.......Full of
!!!!!I shall now add you to my ignor list so I don't have to read any more of your drivel!!
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In fairness to RD, He was the FlyBe Moderator on the FlyBe Forum when it was up and running, so had no choice about his ID.
However, it works both ways though and he also Knew the ID's of those contributing to that forum. Mine included.
However, it works both ways though and he also Knew the ID's of those contributing to that forum. Mine included.
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Anyone know what routes have been chopped due to underperformance.
and where did these 2 pilots apparently leave to goto. If it was BA then you can't blame them. The massive increase in pay will easily compensate for the bond repayment
and where did these 2 pilots apparently leave to goto. If it was BA then you can't blame them. The massive increase in pay will easily compensate for the bond repayment
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RD, Flybe have at present at least 5 contract/freelance pilots on the 146 including E C, who I am sure you will remember and C O who will be leaving shortly because he has a 737 job lined up.
I have it on good authority that their contracts, initially for 3 months have again been renewed for a further 3 months.
It is therefore not me that KNOWS NOTHING is it?
I have it on good authority that their contracts, initially for 3 months have again been renewed for a further 3 months.
It is therefore not me that KNOWS NOTHING is it?
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Jonni
You said
Please explain how 5 pilots having their temporary contracts renewed (even if that is true) is the same thing as "recruiting contract pilots in large numbers".
In fact, there is NO recruitment... having your contract renewed isn't recruitment.
So it turns out that not only do you know nothing, you don't understand the english language either - you clearly don't understand what "recruitment" is- and you can't tell the difference between zero and "large numbers".
Not working in Crewing are you...???
Smokie
You are quite right, but that information is still confidential as far as I am concerned (unless an individual has made it obvious who they are, as some have).
You said
they are recruiting for both full time (on the Dash) and contract (on the 146) in large numbers
In fact, there is NO recruitment... having your contract renewed isn't recruitment.
So it turns out that not only do you know nothing, you don't understand the english language either - you clearly don't understand what "recruitment" is- and you can't tell the difference between zero and "large numbers".
Not working in Crewing are you...???
Smokie
You are quite right, but that information is still confidential as far as I am concerned (unless an individual has made it obvious who they are, as some have).
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A few of you are still not getting it are you ?
The use of real names is not permitted unless those names are already in the wider public domain.
I am getting tired of editing. Consider this the last warning !
The use of real names is not permitted unless those names are already in the wider public domain.
I am getting tired of editing. Consider this the last warning !
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RD, you get the message now, flybe do not want you. That's the crux of the matter.
If you were a good pilot then you would have got/been offered a contract. The fact is you are not, so no job for you.
where I work and what I work at are irrelevant.
What is relevant is that i do know what I'm talking about!!! unlike some who choose to gossip on subjects they know little or NOTHING about over great distances!!!!
If you were a good pilot then you would have got/been offered a contract. The fact is you are not, so no job for you.
where I work and what I work at are irrelevant.
What is relevant is that i do know what I'm talking about!!! unlike some who choose to gossip on subjects they know little or NOTHING about over great distances!!!!
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What a complete clown you are.
The only reason I didn't get a contract is that I asked two weeks after they took the present guys on. It makes no difference how good you are, timing is everything.
Once again... you know nothing.
I now realise that my comment linking you to Crewing was off the mark. You actually need some intelligence to work in Crewing, so that lets you out.
Just another sad little reggie-spotter then. That makes more sense...
The only reason I didn't get a contract is that I asked two weeks after they took the present guys on. It makes no difference how good you are, timing is everything.
Once again... you know nothing.
I now realise that my comment linking you to Crewing was off the mark. You actually need some intelligence to work in Crewing, so that lets you out.
Just another sad little reggie-spotter then. That makes more sense...
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RD, you may or may not be right about the reggie spotter bit, but at least i've got a job in aviation!!!
You are obviously miffed about failing to get a contract with Flybe. From my and many others points of view that is a god send.
Thought about the alternative career suggestion yet?
You are obviously miffed about failing to get a contract with Flybe. From my and many others points of view that is a god send.
Thought about the alternative career suggestion yet?
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A job in aviation - let me guess, you fill the coffee machine in EXT...
Just another wannabe-but-never-will-be...
To further aid your development in the areas of english comprehension and reasoning, let me ask you this. How does one fail to get a contract, when one has never applied in the first place?
I just emailed EXT on the off-chance, and got a reply saying "aarrgh why didn't you get in touch last week!?"
Now, please go on with your diatribe about how everybody in EXT hates me. This is getting quite amusing.
Of course if the rest of you are sick of the discussion... one shall withdraw!
Just another wannabe-but-never-will-be...
To further aid your development in the areas of english comprehension and reasoning, let me ask you this. How does one fail to get a contract, when one has never applied in the first place?
I just emailed EXT on the off-chance, and got a reply saying "aarrgh why didn't you get in touch last week!?"
Now, please go on with your diatribe about how everybody in EXT hates me. This is getting quite amusing.
Of course if the rest of you are sick of the discussion... one shall withdraw!