737 rated dct entry Ryanair

[OneWorld22]

Well, well, well, actual FR pilots post the truth here and low and behold, it conflicts with the usual crew of FR bashers and their decrepit fantasies about the Evil Airline!!

Ryanair pilots like this are not welcome to post here! How dare they ruin the deranged illusions of so many!

[vfenext]

I do take strong exception to Vfenext's "gash" remark. The stories he bases that remark on are mostly exageraed or fabricated, mostly (I suspect) by EZY mgmt. It's a dirty side to corporate tactics that all companies get involved with, but with PR being less of a priority in RYR than cost base, the mud sticks better and gets washed off less often than in the spin obsessed EZY.

None so blind as those who will not see, FR is a gash airline and I speak from first hand experience. The things I witnessed during my time there scared me enough to report it to the IAA. The training is second rate and the quality of line managers is a lot less than required. The Air Corp all looking after each other and covering up left right and center. Their health and safety record speaks for itself, how many time have they been in trouble with the HSA? John Goss's story can be repeated many times but money talks and others are too afraid to speak up. It sounds like you are of limited experience if you think otherwise and have never worked for a real airline. Get some self respect, and a real job!!

[vfenext]

Quoting my previous posts out of context will not make FR a good airline.

[Whippersnapper]

Vfenext

My God, how pompous you are! I gave a measured and polite reply to your remark, and you make arrogant, aggressive, incorrect insults in reply.

I have worked for 4 Uk based 737 operators already. Not as many as some, but enough to have an idea of what is good and what is bad. Maybe you have been at RYR, and maybe your experiences were bad, but things are very different on the 800 fleet. Trg in EZY is well respected within the industry, and I can assure you that the stds of trg and crew competence on the RYR 800 fleet is every bit as good. You base you views on exagerations of conditions that have long since passed.

[Jetdriver]

Please try and stick to the topic folks. Personal insults and much hurling of personal abuse will result in censure and or topic closure.

This thread has already caused some complaints.

[Whippersnapper]

Thanks Jetdriver, I agree with your position, but I do not like to sit by while a biggot attacks the professionalism of every pilot within his airline's prime competitor.

[captplaystation]

I second that Whippersnapper,on the one hand I can offer no defence to some of management's tactics,on the other I refuse to allow someone to slag us(as a pilot body)off with no justifiable reason;for those still confused with the 130 000 euro carrot our masters always dangle,to arrive at this figure remember it is A -gross salary B -seems to equate to what a TRI/TRE could theoretically earn in C-probably the best month any one ever achieved in RYR multiplied by 12(which is of course unachievable due 900hr limit/annual leave etc)or D-it relates to UK contract converted back to euros;it is certainly in the realms of fantasy on a European permanent contract,if you don't mind living out of a suitcase however much more loot was/is/will be avail?on a Brookfields contract, but you have to ask them to give you the latest because that is a whole different ball game, take lots of care ,it seems there are as many different contracts out there as pilots.

[jumpy737]

OK, how bad could even 80,000 pounds really be? How bad can a fixed roster get? NG captains here in Canada make about 30000 pounds albeit with a lower cost of living but with a higher income tax. (take home is close to half that!!!!) There are many NG captains with British passports that would love to come over just for the money.

[mgman]

paying for type ratings

The payment for the type rating might even go

GGV - Look's like you're right, met someone from FR in LPL on Friday and apparently captains no longer have to pay for ratings. Not sure about FOs.

[ifleeplanes]

Cadet pay would only be for the first year and your sector pay is no longer 1/2 rate it is full rate so that makes a BIG difference. Typicaly approx £1900 net a month UK based. So thats £1900 + cadet pay for the first 12 months....and then possibly command in a further 6 months...
Not sure of what amount cadet pay is...sorry

[sickBocks]

Apologies if this is a gentle deviation but please could someone shed further light on the sim assessment and the 2 interviews.

Thanks

sB

[chockstarfish]

half sector

You sure about that sector pay for cadets because if thats the case it changes things but I was under the impression its still half sector pay....

If you could look into it from the inside and I will try from the outside it would be appreciated

csf

[Blue Orion]

Is part time possible for Captains? I'd like to do 2 months on 2 months off. What bond might there be for a NG rated Captain?
thanks

[Whippersnapper]

No bond if you're rated. There is currently no part time scheme, though a few have requested it. The management response was that they were not willing to devote managerial time to the isue, but if the pilots came up with a workable scheme the company would not object.