BA rosters: down to earth
Couldonlyaffordafiver
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From: The Twilight Zone near 30W
Jelly, I looked at my payslips. I think we're at cross purposes. Longhaul pay (747,777) is a couple of grand a year more than shorthaul pay (A320, 737). 7576 is somewhere between the two. Otherwise the deal (pensionable pay, etc.) is the same in all other respects. In times gone by, a LGW 737 pilot would have been paid significantly less than a Mainline shorthaul pilot. Now it's the same deal apart from the pay cap after 10/16 (I think) years.
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AF 404
www.britishairwaysjobs.com
click on current vacancies
enter in the lowest search bar: 'pilots'
... and there is the DEP vacancy. Open till august 31st: they are expecting a LOT of people. Good luck!
Now please read my cautious question (5 replies up): anyone anything on the accomodation problem during BA training? (6 weeks of lodging needed for most people in training)
And who is starting middle of September on 777 too?
www.britishairwaysjobs.com
click on current vacancies
enter in the lowest search bar: 'pilots'
... and there is the DEP vacancy. Open till august 31st: they are expecting a LOT of people. Good luck!
Now please read my cautious question (5 replies up): anyone anything on the accomodation problem during BA training? (6 weeks of lodging needed for most people in training)
And who is starting middle of September on 777 too?
Couldonlyaffordafiver
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From: The Twilight Zone near 30W
Plenty of threads on here which cover your query. I'll let someone else post the links. However to summarise, pay is good and on a par with the European majors.
The pension for new joiners is poor, verging on pathetic.
On shorthaul, you will work 750-800 hours per year, depending which fleet you are on.
On longhaul, you are contracted for 900 hours per year which many people achieve.
All fleets, apart from 737 LGW, use Bidline which is a seniority based system. ie. The most senior guy does as he wants, the most junior does as he's told. As a junior, you will get a Blind Line (which means effectively that you are rostered) and will work most (all) weekends. On shorthaul, you will probably do long tours. On longhaul, you will do short two-crew trips.
Command time for a new joiner is 12-13 years for LGW shorthaul, 14-15 years for LHR shorthaul, 19+ for LHR longhaul.
The pension for new joiners is poor, verging on pathetic.
On shorthaul, you will work 750-800 hours per year, depending which fleet you are on.
On longhaul, you are contracted for 900 hours per year which many people achieve.
All fleets, apart from 737 LGW, use Bidline which is a seniority based system. ie. The most senior guy does as he wants, the most junior does as he's told. As a junior, you will get a Blind Line (which means effectively that you are rostered) and will work most (all) weekends. On shorthaul, you will probably do long tours. On longhaul, you will do short two-crew trips.
Command time for a new joiner is 12-13 years for LGW shorthaul, 14-15 years for LHR shorthaul, 19+ for LHR longhaul.
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Fly A380 wrote:
Why would they be expecting a lot of people? Recruitment has been going on for what 8 months now for 200 vacancies?
Seems to me people aren't knocking the door down trying to get in!
... and there is the DEP vacancy. Open till august 31st: they are expecting a LOT of people. Good luck!
Seems to me people aren't knocking the door down trying to get in!
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Perhaps its to do with the basic requirement of red cape, ability to fly, a girlfriend who is a reporter for a major city newspaper and the propensity to wear underpants outside your spandex bodysuit?
Or maybe its the number of people put off by having to undergo the most pointlessly tedious and unnecessarily comprehensive selection process in the industry?
Or maybe its the enormous numbers of people who fail said process?
Or maybe its the number of people put off by having to undergo the most pointlessly tedious and unnecessarily comprehensive selection process in the industry?
Or maybe its the enormous numbers of people who fail said process?
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Don't be silly guys: there still are loads of people trying to get in.
I believe everybody I know is applying, and from other sides I hear the exact same thing. BA has enough applicants, that's for sure... Whatever negative stuff some people keep on posting.
It's just that the selection criteria are very tough: a low number of applicants will make it through the first day of selections. In my case it was 2 out of twelve...
It is however BA's perogative to set whatever standard or profile they wish for new entrants - although it may seem somewhat overdone, all right.
Anyways: this discussion is not really all that relevant for the topic, is it?
By the way: courses are planned all through next year (2006).
A small hold pool is seeing the light now, applicants get courses in November at the earliest. (which is still very fast)
Lots of people ARE getting in and your seniority will thus improve lightly already in the course of next year if you join now.
Lighten up
I believe everybody I know is applying, and from other sides I hear the exact same thing. BA has enough applicants, that's for sure... Whatever negative stuff some people keep on posting.
It's just that the selection criteria are very tough: a low number of applicants will make it through the first day of selections. In my case it was 2 out of twelve...
It is however BA's perogative to set whatever standard or profile they wish for new entrants - although it may seem somewhat overdone, all right.
Anyways: this discussion is not really all that relevant for the topic, is it?
By the way: courses are planned all through next year (2006).
A small hold pool is seeing the light now, applicants get courses in November at the earliest. (which is still very fast)
Lots of people ARE getting in and your seniority will thus improve lightly already in the course of next year if you join now.
Lighten up
