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Old 28th May 2005 | 17:28
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They'll know exactly who you are when you open your BIG gob!!!!
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Old 28th May 2005 | 19:30
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Thanks very much. Nice to meet you too. Do you know me, or do you normally make such rude remarks about people you don't know?!?!?

Edited because I got rather rude. Then decided I wouldn't lower myself to your level.
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Old 28th May 2005 | 19:53
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steady on cruise pilot........... that was a bit unnecessary.

hope you're not this much of a tit at monarch.

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Old 28th May 2005 | 21:16
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He will soon be shot down if he is a tit at Monarch, BPM no worries there.
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Old 29th May 2005 | 14:32
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UPDATE

Didn't take the Monarch job, went elsewhere.

I however was on the unfortunate receiving end of a viscious rumour which was ignited by her majesty er82.

And you lot know how fast rumours spread around. I couldn't deny anything as I was already judged as guilty.

You talk of stooping down to my level, I havn't yet stopped down to yours by giving everyone on this forum your name. I know EXACTLY who you are, and I know EXACTLY where you are going.

I also have quite a few friends where you are going. Continue your fascination of rumour spreading and it will be you that is shot down.

I acutally have never met er82, but er82 seems to know everything about me.

Enjoy your time at your new airline, but keep things to yourself that you know nothing about.
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Old 29th May 2005 | 17:19
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Seriously??!?!?! I don't rumour spread. I've been on the receiving end of too many nasty rumours myself, so don't bother with it.

If you really think you've got the right person, email me, and tell me exactly what I've done.

And having re-read your post now, for the 5th time, I really have NO idea who you are.

And edited again just to say, to those that might read your post and make an assumption about the kind of person I am, please ask anyone - I am not the viscious person CP is making me out to be.
I'm upset now.
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Old 29th May 2005 | 17:45
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not one to get involved of course.....

Cruise Pilot,

if whatever happened to you was by "rumour" then you have absolutely NO evidence of who started this little story.

All you have, i suggest, is second hand info yourself (passed on by another gossip) which ONLY YOU are judging to be true.

You stated you'd never met er82, therefore how can you know the truth?? You asked her?

NO.

Never listen to playground gossip, and more importantly NEVER believe something with the conviction you are WITHOUT asking the person youself.

And as for the this "i know exactly who you are and where you're going sh1t" Grow up.

You'll be saying "i know where you live....." next.

Don't be a coward and hide behind the anonimity. Enable your PM's and explain to her what you mean.
You now owe her that considering you have brought this onto a public forum.

And as for you coming back and saying "you know where i live too..." then fantastic. I'll post my address up here if you want coz i couldn't give a monkeys.

Obviously Monarch or whereever you are now weren't checking mental ages when they assessed you.

And this post has got WAY off the flybe pay deal subject and i suggest a moderator either close it or, in some other way pull it back to topic.

Rant over.

Thank you.

BPM
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Old 29th May 2005 | 21:08
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ER82,we love your posts darlink' keep them coming......

Cuise pilot,my heel will go in your balls if you slag off anymore posts...


Carrying on with Flybe pay2005:

I heard a rumour that Flybe are going to harmonise 146/Q400 pay is this correct??
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Old 29th May 2005 | 22:46
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And these guys are flying innocent members of the public around in the back ! ! !
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Old 30th May 2005 | 02:53
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Legsup - that was the plan last year, which aimed to equalize the pay over a 2-3 year period to solve certain issues. However, the plan caused concern amongst members of our jet fleet, so it was scrapped.
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Old 30th May 2005 | 08:22
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Quite right too.
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Old 30th May 2005 | 11:23
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Guys hows life at Flybe at the moment, especially now that we are in the summer season.

With the large intake that they have had, have things improved. I know that pay was always a stumbling point, but have the conditions improved.

It was quite a mess when I left. Carry on working hard guys.
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Old 30th May 2005 | 11:53
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And apparently a disruption pay will be paid for extra sectors, APART from those that are due to tech a/c anywhere in the company, and weather. So seeing as 99% of extra sectors are due to tech a/c, the company will get away without paying!
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Old 30th May 2005 | 12:18
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The "new, improved" pay deal offers nothing. The exodus will continue and the hidden costs behind poor retention will escalate. Save to spend measures!
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Old 30th May 2005 | 20:54
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ATIS - Unfortunately the large number of new entrants (Capt & F/O) appears only to have decreased the despatch reliability of the DHC8 in line with the decrease in the overall level of experience on the fleet.

Pay aside, Ham Phisted hits the nail pretty squarely on the head, the overall operational culture is weighted heavily against crews, with apparently no recognition whatsoever of the heavy cost of a high crew turnover. New joiners are becoming bitter quickly, and the bond is no longer considered a hurdle to moving on within months of joining.

The 'conflict of interest' that is causing most of the problems still remains, so in short ATIS - still quite a mess!
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Old 2nd June 2005 | 21:19
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er82, your comments about disruption etc are incorrect. Please don't start setting hares going on subjects that you are not full acquainted with, its not helpful.
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Old 2nd June 2005 | 23:55
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H - I have to agree that Whispermode is correct about your disruption facts.

Quick - edit/delete your post!
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Old 3rd June 2005 | 13:47
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Why are they incorrect??
If you're going on about the disruption payments, I said that was a rumour, so can leave it on here.

If you're going on about disrupted lifestyles, I think I am correct, so I'll leave it on here as well.
Want some examples?!?! I have lots. So do 90% of the workforce.

Subjects I'm not fully acquainted with?!?! I think I am. Thank you very much.
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Old 8th June 2005 | 21:22
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So! the next round of Balloting is about to get under way.
I shall of course be voting A BIG NO Again.

This "New deal" is still full of holes and virtually NO IMPROVEMENT on the last for the majority of the guys on the line.

I urge every body to be patient and stick it out a bit longer.

To all you young ( and not so young) tyros who are itching to get away to pastures anew, best of luck to all of you. I know the Emb 195 is not going to be everybodies cup of tea.

But please think of your colleagues whom you leave behind.
A lot of us are reasonably happy with our locations and there are things to consider like your kids schooling and other Familiy comittments etc, when trying to make a judgement call on whether to jump ship or not.

At least, as a very firm middle digit to the company before you GO.................................VOTE NO....VOTE NO....VOTE NO!!!!
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Old 13th June 2005 | 00:56
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Can I take it then that most of you have voted with your feet and are now part of the infamous 90 Plus?
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