FlyBe Pay Deal 2005.
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FlyBe Pay Deal 2005.
The Ballots have just gone out to the BALPA members to vote on this proposal.
This proposal only brings us up to the year 2000 salaries of the rest of the industry, so we have a fair way to go yet.
In years gone by this would have been a reasonably good deal.
However, in view of the current situation and the mess we are in, we have a Golden Opportunity to say NO.
"Oliver" could well return from the table with a Full Bowl.
I urge every member to e-mail their suggestions /proposals to the Company Councils. We could certainly be surprised if we stood our ground like Virgin did a while ago.
This is an unrivaled opportunity that is unlikely to repeat it's self.
If you Vote yes, then you only have your selves to blame.
Your thoughts Ladies and Gentlemen please.
This proposal only brings us up to the year 2000 salaries of the rest of the industry, so we have a fair way to go yet.
In years gone by this would have been a reasonably good deal.
However, in view of the current situation and the mess we are in, we have a Golden Opportunity to say NO.
"Oliver" could well return from the table with a Full Bowl.
I urge every member to e-mail their suggestions /proposals to the Company Councils. We could certainly be surprised if we stood our ground like Virgin did a while ago.
This is an unrivaled opportunity that is unlikely to repeat it's self.
If you Vote yes, then you only have your selves to blame.
Your thoughts Ladies and Gentlemen please.
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Smokie
You are 100% correct.
We have never been in a stronger position and if we do not turn this offer down we are unlikely to ever get the opportunity again from such strength.
Vote No and lets get a decent reward for our endeavours for once!
You are 100% correct.
We have never been in a stronger position and if we do not turn this offer down we are unlikely to ever get the opportunity again from such strength.
Vote No and lets get a decent reward for our endeavours for once!
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Anyone know what percentage of Flybe pilots are BALPA members? I heard it was around 45% but someone was trying to tell me it was down to a third with all the resignations (from both the company and BALPA) and new guys not signed up yet. Wonder what the IPA/IPF membership is?
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I have been around a few of the bases over the last few days and the "Word on the Street" is NO!
I am very concerned at the moment about the various "Deals" being offered to some Pilots (Captains and First Officers) to reconsider their positions regarding their start dates with their new employers.
Some have been offered "Contract Captain's Per Diem," even though they are First Officers; to delay their start dates to work for a few more days prior to joining their new airline.
0thers have been enticed back and pursuaded to either withdraw their notice period or to jack in the the course they have already started.
You can not blame them if the offer is too good to refuse.
This begs the questions:-
What if we all handed in our notice?
Why are we not all being treated equally?
Why are we in this mess in the first place?
Why should anyone work for a normal day off payment when this sort of "Deal" is available to others who have decided to jump ship?
What does this say about how our company treat those that have been loyal and stay through thick and thin ?
"Word on the Street" is we are now looking at, at least double figures to go some way to redress the balance.
Some of the company Stalwarts are now prepared for industrial action.
Let the Games Begin.............
I am very concerned at the moment about the various "Deals" being offered to some Pilots (Captains and First Officers) to reconsider their positions regarding their start dates with their new employers.
Some have been offered "Contract Captain's Per Diem," even though they are First Officers; to delay their start dates to work for a few more days prior to joining their new airline.
0thers have been enticed back and pursuaded to either withdraw their notice period or to jack in the the course they have already started.
You can not blame them if the offer is too good to refuse.
This begs the questions:-
What if we all handed in our notice?
Why are we not all being treated equally?
Why are we in this mess in the first place?
Why should anyone work for a normal day off payment when this sort of "Deal" is available to others who have decided to jump ship?
What does this say about how our company treat those that have been loyal and stay through thick and thin ?
"Word on the Street" is we are now looking at, at least double figures to go some way to redress the balance.
Some of the company Stalwarts are now prepared for industrial action.
Let the Games Begin.............
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So it appears that the Rumour is in fact true.
A First Officer who has left the Company has been
"Re employed "on a Contract Deal for a couple of days prior to joining his new Company.
Good on ya mate!
However, I hope everyone else who is asked to work a day off only accepts on the understanding that they are equally remunerated.
Lites blue touch paper, stands well back!
A First Officer who has left the Company has been
"Re employed "on a Contract Deal for a couple of days prior to joining his new Company.
Good on ya mate!
However, I hope everyone else who is asked to work a day off only accepts on the understanding that they are equally remunerated.
Lites blue touch paper, stands well back!
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As RAFAT has already posted, air your views on the Flyingbe forum.
Discussing this on Pprune will not help the situation, as those who do support the Flybe pilots cause can do nothing constructive to help. Those that don't just gain ammunition to post juvenile comments in the hope of encouraging a reaction.
Discussing this on Pprune will not help the situation, as those who do support the Flybe pilots cause can do nothing constructive to help. Those that don't just gain ammunition to post juvenile comments in the hope of encouraging a reaction.
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Smokie,
You seem to be the person to ask.
I am about to accept an invitation to work during my leave in the next few weeks at Flybe.
Any idea what the company paid that F/O per working day b4 he legged it. Because I sure as hell won't accept anything less.
Time to make some money me thinks
You seem to be the person to ask.
I am about to accept an invitation to work during my leave in the next few weeks at Flybe.
Any idea what the company paid that F/O per working day b4 he legged it. Because I sure as hell won't accept anything less.
Time to make some money me thinks
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10002 - There isn't one. The aircraft are operated by Astraeus, and although a few flybe pilots have been 'detached' to Astraeus for 18 months to supplement their numbers, they are entirely under Astraeus' control during that period, which includes pay.
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If 5% has been rejected what is a realistic figure to be aiming for?
I would suggest firstly we push for a re write of the scheduling agreement, this time make it workable and water tight in its wording unlike the curretn worthless edition.
As the cabin crew are receiving a 30% pay rise this month why not put forward a figure of around 20%?
I would suggest firstly we push for a re write of the scheduling agreement, this time make it workable and water tight in its wording unlike the curretn worthless edition.
As the cabin crew are receiving a 30% pay rise this month why not put forward a figure of around 20%?