I have an interview with monarch any help out there
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I have an interview with monarch any help out there
Hi guys i have an interview with monarch next week for the 757 any help would be great,any tips on the interview or what are they like to work for ect .cheers guys.........
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This is a difficult question to answer. It shouldn't be but it is.
Firstly the interview will be just that an interview where they get an opportunity to appraise you as a person and you get to ask questions. Unless things have changed in the brave new world, there are no pyscho babble tests or other nonsense.
The company is part low cost scheduled and mainly I.T charter. The workload can be (and usually is ) very busy particularly on the Fly by wire fleets and especially so in the summer. Good training departments ( in the main) and you will probably enjoy flying with the people that operate on the line.
Now comes what would have been the good part, the terms and conditions............... Well, it would have been the good part untill this year. Those terms and conditions are not those that will be offered to you. In line with what is now becoming industry practice, the terms and conditions for new joiners are significantly below those enjoyed by existing pilots. This will bring the salaries and other conditions more into line with the likes of Easyjet and Ryanair etc. I am not entirely sure what the full extent of these new conditions are, and perhaps somebody else can give you a better appraisal. Clearly there are plenty of pilots out there who are willing to accept these new "market forces" and as it seems you reap what you sow, these are the new terms that the employers feel they can adopt.
I don't work to these terms and am therefore not qualified to advise you one way or the other. It is a matter for you to decide for yourself. However as I said at the beginning, you will do lots of flying, it can be hard work. You would enjoy working with the crews on line.
Sorry I can only give a mixed answer to your question. Historicaly the company has enjoyed a very high degree of pilot loyalty. No doubt the terms and conditions on offer contributed to this situation. It is hard to see where this pans out in the future, but the company has to exist in a world where salaries and terms and conditions for new joiners are sliding below previous levels.
I am reminded of those desparate people you see in the US who stand at intersections with signs around their necks saying "Will work for food". It seems that new wannabees coming into this industry adopt the same principle, and now the carriers are taking them up on their offer. Not a good time to be coming into this industry if you seriously intend to make a stable and comfortable career from it. There again some might argue, was it ever ?
Good luck.
Firstly the interview will be just that an interview where they get an opportunity to appraise you as a person and you get to ask questions. Unless things have changed in the brave new world, there are no pyscho babble tests or other nonsense.
The company is part low cost scheduled and mainly I.T charter. The workload can be (and usually is ) very busy particularly on the Fly by wire fleets and especially so in the summer. Good training departments ( in the main) and you will probably enjoy flying with the people that operate on the line.
Now comes what would have been the good part, the terms and conditions............... Well, it would have been the good part untill this year. Those terms and conditions are not those that will be offered to you. In line with what is now becoming industry practice, the terms and conditions for new joiners are significantly below those enjoyed by existing pilots. This will bring the salaries and other conditions more into line with the likes of Easyjet and Ryanair etc. I am not entirely sure what the full extent of these new conditions are, and perhaps somebody else can give you a better appraisal. Clearly there are plenty of pilots out there who are willing to accept these new "market forces" and as it seems you reap what you sow, these are the new terms that the employers feel they can adopt.
I don't work to these terms and am therefore not qualified to advise you one way or the other. It is a matter for you to decide for yourself. However as I said at the beginning, you will do lots of flying, it can be hard work. You would enjoy working with the crews on line.
Sorry I can only give a mixed answer to your question. Historicaly the company has enjoyed a very high degree of pilot loyalty. No doubt the terms and conditions on offer contributed to this situation. It is hard to see where this pans out in the future, but the company has to exist in a world where salaries and terms and conditions for new joiners are sliding below previous levels.
I am reminded of those desparate people you see in the US who stand at intersections with signs around their necks saying "Will work for food". It seems that new wannabees coming into this industry adopt the same principle, and now the carriers are taking them up on their offer. Not a good time to be coming into this industry if you seriously intend to make a stable and comfortable career from it. There again some might argue, was it ever ?
Good luck.
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Monarch pilots are very angry with the company over the reduced terms and conditions which you'll be offered, so you will be walking into the middle of an industrial dispute. We are already in dispute.
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Check out thomsonfly, they apparently have found it difficult to recruit and hang onto new pilots so they have recently re-enstated the link onto the main terms and conditions, word is they are recruiting now, also alot less time to command.
No daft interview techniques ala group meditation around some lego bricks etc etc, just can you fly ? are you a 'good egg' ?
Crews are great but there is an ongoing dispute about the new terms and conditions, you may well walk into a strike.
No daft interview techniques ala group meditation around some lego bricks etc etc, just can you fly ? are you a 'good egg' ?
Crews are great but there is an ongoing dispute about the new terms and conditions, you may well walk into a strike.
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Whatare the new terms and conditions vs the old ones? That helps people to make their minds up.
Can someone also give an idea as to what the typical month consists in the winter/summer. How many nights away etc etc
What is the salary for a new joiner? Is it as per PPJN?
Thank you
Can someone also give an idea as to what the typical month consists in the winter/summer. How many nights away etc etc
What is the salary for a new joiner? Is it as per PPJN?
Thank you
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There is no scheduling agreement, so you can and will, have an early rostered in a run of lates. Rostering is poor.
Max 900 hours per year. And that is a target for crewing! If they miss that, they'll try for the duty hours limit!
Do you like time in taxis? "W" patterns are common.
New payscale is OK to start but is inferior to Easy Jet. Much inferior to Thompson.
This will be a divided workforce.
We have three fleets and three bases. LTN is the best base. A300 the best fleet. You should avoid MAN A320/321.
Time to command? Ten years plus???? Current commands are comming after 8 years.
Starting pay is fine if you are currently a F/O with a small regional airine. Monarch would be OK if all you want is a jet on your licence and time to plan your next career move, perhaps to Thompson or Easy Jet.
Max 900 hours per year. And that is a target for crewing! If they miss that, they'll try for the duty hours limit!
Do you like time in taxis? "W" patterns are common.
New payscale is OK to start but is inferior to Easy Jet. Much inferior to Thompson.
This will be a divided workforce.
We have three fleets and three bases. LTN is the best base. A300 the best fleet. You should avoid MAN A320/321.
Time to command? Ten years plus???? Current commands are comming after 8 years.
Starting pay is fine if you are currently a F/O with a small regional airine. Monarch would be OK if all you want is a jet on your licence and time to plan your next career move, perhaps to Thompson or Easy Jet.
