British Airways DEP Selection - THE lowdown Part 1
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To be fair the recruitment team is very small and they do their best. They are always friendly and helpful if you give them a ring.
I wouldn't go that far! It is just a small department dealing with a huge number of applications.
disorganised chaos?
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From: south east UK
When I started at BA about 4-5 months ago I was surprised, VERY surprised to find that it is a very lean company, (well, certainly in flight ops anyway) with a very thin management layer, and small but efficient admin group. I always had the impression from outside that it was a huge top heavy, public-sector-esque company. Nothing could be further from the truth.
They are recruiting DEP's, ex-mil and now the revamped cadet scheme and in order to do this and sift through the thousands of applications (yes, thousands) they (literally) have a handful of people to do this.
I know everyone is champing at the bit, I certainly was - but be patient, your turn will come.
Some people will never be happy (black and brown
), but honestly where would you rather BA spent the money and had the staff? In a recruitment department so that people can get a reply a few days sooner? Or in running the airline?!
They are recruiting DEP's, ex-mil and now the revamped cadet scheme and in order to do this and sift through the thousands of applications (yes, thousands) they (literally) have a handful of people to do this.
I know everyone is champing at the bit, I certainly was - but be patient, your turn will come.
Some people will never be happy (black and brown
), but honestly where would you rather BA spent the money and had the staff? In a recruitment department so that people can get a reply a few days sooner? Or in running the airline?!
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From: South of BCN
When I went through the recruitment I asked that question. I was told by
the HR manager all applications were hand processed and all essays were
read by individuals. There is no automation other than the 'submit' button,
hence why it takes time to filter and send out replies.
the HR manager all applications were hand processed and all essays were
read by individuals. There is no automation other than the 'submit' button,
hence why it takes time to filter and send out replies.
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From: On the side of the pitch!
Difference is though BlackandBrown, your inputs are of no use to this thread, and just shows why you didn't get into BA, useful comments from people did help me get into BA where I've been working now for 4 months, no longer at your dreadful lot!!!
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'difference is though...... ' - alright then vicky pollard.
That's right, keep burning the bridges behind you, you won't need them where you are going will you? You hope. What's dreadful about 'my lot' you fantasist? The conditions are good, the planes are great, crews are generally very nice, training that is second to none, security, progression and business tactics that I have solid faith in.
Easy is well rid of the dilettantes with their delusions of grandeur.
Your dreadful lot
Easy is well rid of the dilettantes with their delusions of grandeur.
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From: south england
Big thanks to all those who have posted over the years with all the useful gen, there is no doubt that it has made the whole process a lot easier.
For those about to do the sim I would say my experience was very good. The trainer was very friendly and gave us both a very fair run. There are no tricks, just a couple of mini lofts which gives you the opportunity to show off your non technical skills. During quiet periods (if you get any, quite a bit of time pressure!) keep reviewing, that will ensure you don't forget anything. Don't let them distract you with pointless calls from the cabin etc.
Take your time, be methodical about cockpit setup. One gotcha is to leave the map selector in App mode......this is no good when you need to follow the VOR for departure! Get your hands on an Aerad plate (or Navtech) and practice briefing from them.
Finally, no point scoring, help your mate as much as you possibly can (while letting them run their own sector).
Regards
GBD
For those about to do the sim I would say my experience was very good. The trainer was very friendly and gave us both a very fair run. There are no tricks, just a couple of mini lofts which gives you the opportunity to show off your non technical skills. During quiet periods (if you get any, quite a bit of time pressure!) keep reviewing, that will ensure you don't forget anything. Don't let them distract you with pointless calls from the cabin etc.
Take your time, be methodical about cockpit setup. One gotcha is to leave the map selector in App mode......this is no good when you need to follow the VOR for departure! Get your hands on an Aerad plate (or Navtech) and practice briefing from them.
Finally, no point scoring, help your mate as much as you possibly can (while letting them run their own sector).
Regards
GBD
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From: London
Gatbusdriver
Do They use both Aerad and navtech in the sims or you had only Aerad app plates?
I am asking because I am not familiar with them and, as you suggested, I want to get it to practice a little bit.
Any other more specific advice you feel to share regarding the sim will be appreciated.
Thanks
Do They use both Aerad and navtech in the sims or you had only Aerad app plates?
I am asking because I am not familiar with them and, as you suggested, I want to get it to practice a little bit.
Any other more specific advice you feel to share regarding the sim will be appreciated.
Thanks
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From: south england
I think they may be one and the same, but not sure as I have not used Aerad for some time. BA use Navtech.
They are definitely looking at the No-Tech side of things. Know your profiles, you will be asked questions, and not only that the pitch power settings work. Show interest in the trainer and have your own questions prepared. The flying side of things is only a small part. Be timely but don't be rushed. BA use TDODAR as a decision making tool, I would use it to.
Radar was in and out. For mayday/pan we received radar vectors. For standard A to B expect holding and procedural approach. Approach may be non precision or ILS.
They are definitely looking at the No-Tech side of things. Know your profiles, you will be asked questions, and not only that the pitch power settings work. Show interest in the trainer and have your own questions prepared. The flying side of things is only a small part. Be timely but don't be rushed. BA use TDODAR as a decision making tool, I would use it to.
Radar was in and out. For mayday/pan we received radar vectors. For standard A to B expect holding and procedural approach. Approach may be non precision or ILS.
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From: south east UK
Black and brown. If you are so goddam happy at the orange lot, then stop poluting a thread about BA and going on about their recruitment process - or at least add something constructive that is actually correct.
I got into BA primarily beacuse of what was on this thread. Lets try and keep it on target shall we.
I got into BA primarily beacuse of what was on this thread. Lets try and keep it on target shall we.
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I thought spelling and grammar were requirements for the Ba application? 757 driver, I just find illogic frustrating, and without thought or logic people seem to home into Ba like an instinct. People need to look ahead, take opinions, aggregate and then choose. As I have said before if you think that this Ba in this future is a dead cert you are destined to go off a cliff. There has been very little of any help or interest on this thread in the last 100 posts, I am not detracting from value being added. Besides I think you enjoy disagreeing with me. I enjoy your balanced responses - they make me question my own stance.
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From: home and away
Why do you folks keep feeding this arrogant tw@t?
He's already embarrassed himself enough times (see Tech Log and his knowledge of his a/c type...
) and people within his own airline have told him that too.. ...Really, if you stop feeding, they go away, they really do.
Back to the DEP subject:
how many hold poolers at the moment? Just been in 1 month. I hear SH and LH courses planned from beginning of 2012, nothing before (all courses full). Someone also mentioned *possible* recruitment on 777 (I am only passing on the chatter!).
Info for current candidates awaiting sims: I heard next slots are for November (info passed on from someone who's just been through Day 1).
Best of luck to all those about to jump through the hoops.
He's already embarrassed himself enough times (see Tech Log and his knowledge of his a/c type...
) and people within his own airline have told him that too.. ...Really, if you stop feeding, they go away, they really do.Back to the DEP subject:
how many hold poolers at the moment? Just been in 1 month. I hear SH and LH courses planned from beginning of 2012, nothing before (all courses full). Someone also mentioned *possible* recruitment on 777 (I am only passing on the chatter!).
Info for current candidates awaiting sims: I heard next slots are for November (info passed on from someone who's just been through Day 1).
Best of luck to all those about to jump through the hoops.