Mid and end RVR

[Noknoipobin]

I’m looking for the EASA regulation regarding CAT II and CAT III operations, specifically whether it requires the use of mid and end RVR or not.

From what I’ve seen, I’m not sure — if anyone has found the actual written regulation, please share it.

we’ve already discussed this a lot. I just want to see the official wording stating whether it’s required or not.

Thank you.

[PENKO]

https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/downloads/2019/en
https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/def...endment_16.pdf
https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/document-library/easy-access-rules/online-publications/easy-access-rules-air-operations?page=1&kw=Planning+minima

[Noknoipobin]

Originally Posted by PENKO

https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/downloads/2019/en
https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/def...endment_16.pdf
https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/docume...lanning+minima

Thanks so much.

[sonicbum]

Originally Posted by Noknoipobin

I’m looking for the EASA regulation regarding CAT II and CAT III operations, specifically whether it requires the use of mid and end RVR or not.

From what I’ve seen, I’m not sure — if anyone has found the actual written regulation, please share it.

we’ve already discussed this a lot. I just want to see the official wording stating whether it’s required or not.

Thank you.

GM1 NCC.OP.230 Commencement and continuation of approach

ED Decision 2023/007/R

APPLICATION OF RVR OR VIS REPORTS — ALL AIRCRAFT

(d) If a deterioration in the RVR or VIS is reported once the aircraft is below 1 000 ft or in the FAS, as applicable, then there is no requirement for the approach to be discontinued. In this situation, the normal visual reference requirements would apply at the DA/H.

(e) Where additional RVR information is provided (e.g. midpoint and stop end), this is advisory; such information may be useful to the pilot in order to determine whether there will be sufficient visual reference to control the aircraft during roll-out and taxi. For operations where the aircraft will be controlled manually during roll-out, Table 1 in AMC1 SPA.LVO.100(a) provides an indication of the RVR that may be required to allow manual lateral control of the aircraft on the runway.

Disclaimer: always comply with your Operator regulations (OM-A) if more restrictive.

[Noknoipobin]

Originally Posted by sonicbum

GM1 NCC.OP.230 Commencement and continuation of approach

ED Decision 2023/007/R

APPLICATION OF RVR OR VIS REPORTS — ALL AIRCRAFT

(d) If a deterioration in the RVR or VIS is reported once the aircraft is below 1 000 ft or in the FAS, as applicable, then there is no requirement for the approach to be discontinued. In this situation, the normal visual reference requirements would apply at the DA/H.

(e) Where additional RVR information is provided (e.g. midpoint and stop end), this is advisory; such information may be useful to the pilot in order to determine whether there will be sufficient visual reference to control the aircraft during roll-out and taxi. For operations where the aircraft will be controlled manually during roll-out, Table 1 in AMC1 SPA.LVO.100(a) provides an indication of the RVR that may be required to allow manual lateral control of the aircraft on the runway.

Disclaimer: always comply with your Operator regulations (OM-A) if more restrictive.

Thank you very much.

I saw it in GM1 CAT.OP.MPA.305 “Commencement and continuation of approach” as well as in the AMC, but I’m not quite sure, because it feels counter-intuitive — is it really true that only the TDZ needs to be considered?( Because I believe FAA and ICAO(Doc 9365) still require it.)

[Propellerhead]

Generally you need midpoint of 125m for a cat 2 and 3A, and 75m for cat 3B. And then rollout / stop end 75m if relevant (ie if you will use the final 3rd of the runway).

[sonicbum]

Originally Posted by Noknoipobin

Thank you very much.

I saw it in GM1 CAT.OP.MPA.305 “Commencement and continuation of approach” as well as in the AMC, but I’m not quite sure, because it feels counter-intuitive — is it really true that only the TDZ needs to be considered?( Because I believe FAA and ICAO(Doc 9365) still require it.)

Check Table C-1 of Doc 9365; it does specify that midpoint and stop-end can be advisory depending on the State. It is basically up to the Agency or relevant Authority to lay out the requirements.

[Noknoipobin]

Many thanks to all of you.