What does "zero speed" mean?
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What does "zero speed" mean?
For the second time while approaching to CDG in Paris the ATC asked for "zero speed", does anyone know what they are talking about?
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Other than a helicopter or maybe at the top of a hammerhead stall? French people like to put other people down so maybe it is some game they play.
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It's been a few years since I operated into CDG, but I believe the controller means that there is no speed control when he says 'zero speed'. In other words fly your own speed, 250kts below FL100 does not apply.
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I'm guessing here but might they mean the minimum clean speed, as in Flaps 0 speed.
'Monsieur, pliz mek ze flap zero spid'. Not a very clear RT instruction but it wouldn't be the first time.
'Monsieur, pliz mek ze flap zero spid'. Not a very clear RT instruction but it wouldn't be the first time.
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For the second time while approaching to CDG in Paris the ATC asked for "zero speed"
In other words fly your own speed, 250kts below FL100 does not apply
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Parıs can be a gottcha, when they say no speed they mean you do not have to comply wıth the speed restrıctıons ın the Star and also when under vectors, but they don,t want you above 250kts below FL100
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What he said, but watch your tails!!!
Years ago, but CDG, we used to get. "Direct to . . ." etc. Several of our guys were threatened with something nasty because they had not continued with the SID, but taken them at their word.
Happily, I'd been on the receiving end of the most bewilderingly bad support during an emergency there, and when I agreed to let it be sorted in house, I was told I was owed a favor. I called the guy, and no more was heard about our new transgressions. (I personally hadn't fallen into the trap, but rather felt then, that settling things in this way was rather kool. I guess those days are gone forever.
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Years ago, but CDG, we used to get. "Direct to . . ." etc. Several of our guys were threatened with something nasty because they had not continued with the SID, but taken them at their word.
Happily, I'd been on the receiving end of the most bewilderingly bad support during an emergency there, and when I agreed to let it be sorted in house, I was told I was owed a favor. I called the guy, and no more was heard about our new transgressions. (I personally hadn't fallen into the trap, but rather felt then, that settling things in this way was rather kool. I guess those days are gone forever.
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IFBB, Have you thought of asking the controller at the time.
All you had to do was reply with "Confirm no speed control".
Any time in doubt, ASK
All you had to do was reply with "Confirm no speed control".
Any time in doubt, ASK
