Smoking up front
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Smoking up front
Hi people,
Very simply, we all know it's against the law to smoke on the flight deck, but honestly, how many of you break this particular rule every now and again? I must be honest - one of our longest routes is EMA - TFS and on more than one occasion I've been given the opportunity to light up if I've so desired. After politely declining, said skipper(s) will then spark up themselves. As a smoker myself, I have no moral objection to my colleague smoking in the cockpit - if anything, I'd argue that if he (like myself) is addicted to the drug then it may in fact be safer for him to do so than not on a run of 3-4 hours or so, meaning 8-9 on the aircraft. In saying that, I appreciate that it is not fair on the following (non-smoking?) crew members to have to breathe in whatever remains of our habit, but I've noticed the conscious effort made to get the business done on the outbound leg to give lots of time for all to disperse.
I'm relatively new to the airline, so I shall not be joining in any time soon, but I'm curious as to what others' opinions are.
Smokers and non-smokers' views greatly appreciated.
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Very simply, we all know it's against the law to smoke on the flight deck, but honestly, how many of you break this particular rule every now and again? I must be honest - one of our longest routes is EMA - TFS and on more than one occasion I've been given the opportunity to light up if I've so desired. After politely declining, said skipper(s) will then spark up themselves. As a smoker myself, I have no moral objection to my colleague smoking in the cockpit - if anything, I'd argue that if he (like myself) is addicted to the drug then it may in fact be safer for him to do so than not on a run of 3-4 hours or so, meaning 8-9 on the aircraft. In saying that, I appreciate that it is not fair on the following (non-smoking?) crew members to have to breathe in whatever remains of our habit, but I've noticed the conscious effort made to get the business done on the outbound leg to give lots of time for all to disperse.
I'm relatively new to the airline, so I shall not be joining in any time soon, but I'm curious as to what others' opinions are.
Smokers and non-smokers' views greatly appreciated.
A.
I have never seen it done since is was outlawed for our outfit in 1992. We have had one or two smokers (PinC) that have used nicotine patches on long flights until they get to the airport smoking area.
Smoking on board the aircraft (part 135,125 and 121) in any area is illegal in our airspace, so you would be subject to the law of the land and then sacked, and possible loss of licence for not a "fit and proper person to hold an aviation document"
So the risk for a quick dorrie could be very harsh here, so why do it?
Smoking on board the aircraft (part 135,125 and 121) in any area is illegal in our airspace, so you would be subject to the law of the land and then sacked, and possible loss of licence for not a "fit and proper person to hold an aviation document"
So the risk for a quick dorrie could be very harsh here, so why do it?
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Smokers and anti-smokers
The war goes on, and will continue...
How many times have we seen threads about the subject...?
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I wish that an equal effort was made against illegal drug use (including pot) as it is done against tobacco smokers. I am a pipe smoker, and when or where not convenient to light-up my pipe, I resort to cigarettes.
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I think it is a regional thing too, to be "anti-smoker"... Most areas of Africa, Asia and South America are tolerant with tobacco smokers. As far as I am concerned, "no smoking" places are off limits for me. I do not spend my money there.
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In the cockpit there are smokers and anti-smokers.
Happy tobacco contrails
How many times have we seen threads about the subject...?
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I wish that an equal effort was made against illegal drug use (including pot) as it is done against tobacco smokers. I am a pipe smoker, and when or where not convenient to light-up my pipe, I resort to cigarettes.
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I think it is a regional thing too, to be "anti-smoker"... Most areas of Africa, Asia and South America are tolerant with tobacco smokers. As far as I am concerned, "no smoking" places are off limits for me. I do not spend my money there.
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In the cockpit there are smokers and anti-smokers.
Happy tobacco contrails
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it is a thread already, posted on 12th august on the same problem. well, for non smokers , travelling on flight deck , is an opportunity to smoke for free........
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You ought to take up Snus!
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(sorry, it's in swedish)
I assure you, this is in no way the same thing as the US chewing tobacco or dry stuff you put under your bottom lip. It comes in bags or as a loose substance. It holds roughly twice the amount of niccotine than a regular fag and works a treat for smokers in the cockpit.
I've had to stop though to save my teeth and bloodpressure...
/LnS
General - Swedish Match
(sorry, it's in swedish)
I assure you, this is in no way the same thing as the US chewing tobacco or dry stuff you put under your bottom lip. It comes in bags or as a loose substance. It holds roughly twice the amount of niccotine than a regular fag and works a treat for smokers in the cockpit.
I've had to stop though to save my teeth and bloodpressure...
/LnS
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Does this not cause problems in the cabin as punters and crew smell the residual odours in their recirc'ed air?
My view is; If the book says don't, then either (i) DON'T (where else do you flout your SOPs?) (ii) Wait until you get somewhere you can (iii) use patches to satisfy your addiction, or (iv) Kick the weed.
My view is; If the book says don't, then either (i) DON'T (where else do you flout your SOPs?) (ii) Wait until you get somewhere you can (iii) use patches to satisfy your addiction, or (iv) Kick the weed.
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I wish that an equal effort was made against illegal drug use (including pot) as it is done against tobacco smokers.
There is a difference between the bible-bashing anti-smokers (usually ex-smokers themselves, like John Reid) and those who just want to get away from the smell of it.
I would simply think it rude to light up in such a confined space, regardless of my position on the matter.
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The SOP in our airline is that the skipper can only smoke Montecristos whilst the copilot is allowed normal reefers,otherwise strictly prohibited.
...where else do you flout your SOPs?
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Whilst flying for a well known SE Asian airline it was not uncommon to see a fellow pilot pulling on the handle in the roof that allowed air/smoke to escape to atmosphere whilst at the same time he was pulling on a cig!
To their credit, once it became verboten for all pax as well they stopped doing this.
To their credit, once it became verboten for all pax as well they stopped doing this.
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