Bad Landing

[john_tullamarine]

No point starting on my bad landings ... be here all day ... then, again, I probably could cover the really good ones in a single line ..

Most impressive I saw ... years ago, on a business trip to Laos, got invited to go both ways in the jumpseat (727-ski). Captain spoke good English, F/O passable, F/E none .. and not too sure what the other guy did ... talk about a cockpit that looked like it was out of Flying High ..

On the way into Vientiane I was absolutely impressed by the soft landing the 349-bogie undercarriage gave the PF ... necessary part of the tale is that it appeared to me that the F/E called the touchdown whereupon the speedbrakes would be pulled ...

Then, a few weeks later, on the way back into Bangkok, thunderstorms everywhere (and I was the only one in a seat belt) we were pedalling down the ILS and the captain (PF on this sector) flared way too high (30 ft ?). The F/E called something .. and a hand pulled the boards. Now, being a long time 727-200 driver, and having pile-driven innumerable hulls into various runways, I died a thousand deaths waiting for death to become permanent in the next few seconds ...yet the bird just sort of waffled its way onto the runway without anything more that a modest thump ...

Now, that's MY sort of aeroplane ...

[cheesycol]

23R at Manch with a stiff crosswind from the right has caused a few slammers, not got the o2 masks down yet though.

Saw a shamrock colleague go around off a bounce - appeared to catch a gust and eat up a lot of runway at about 10ft RA! Then binned it for another go. Was a wickedly windy day though.

[RingwaySam]

Has anyone ever seen a plane go-around from a duff bounced landing or float to far and go-around? I've never seen either having watched 000s of landings so I guess it can't be that common.

Saw a GB Airways A320 do this back in '05. Winds were around 20kts, not sure if it was gusting or not. Was all over the place on approach doing it's best. Looked like it was going to touchdown fairly smoothly but it then started to float up before dropping into the runway. Aircraft bounced up floated quite abit before gently touching down then immediately powering up and going-around. Impressive, but very scary sight.

23R at Manch with a stiff crosswind from the right has caused a few slammers, not got the o2 masks down yet though.

Heard pilots report mod/sev turbulence quiet alot on the scanner at MAN - Why is this? It's not as if there is high buildings around or it's in a valley. Also seems to suffer from windshear alot on fairly windy days. Is this normal for windy days?

[kwachon]

I remember during my 737 checkride, I dropped the nosewheel rather hard on the second landing at 0100hrs Houston, I looked at the check captain who looked back at me and said, " well the thing didn't break off but how about we keep it on the runway...", go around followed by a very gentle second attempt and yes believe it or not, passed the type ride......

[perkin]

Also seems to suffer from windshear alot on fairly windy days

I believe the windshear is caused by the terminal buildings when said wind is coming from the direction of the terminals when MAN 23R is in operation...Don't forget there are a couple of substantial multi-storey car parks over on that part of the site...

Impression from a pax point of view it that it always seems to be a bit of a struggle to land on that runway, what with the hill and all...it seems to attract rather more 'firm contacts' than greasers!

[Doors to Automatic]

Or they miss the hump competely and float 4000 feet before touching down!

(God help them if this had been BHX!)

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircra...ideo-6757.html

[everynowandthen]

Didn't Monarch end up with a nice big bump in the cockpit floor after an enthusiastic landing in Gib a few years ago?

[mad_jock]

That car park thats always empty on about 1.5 miles finals when the suns out gives a fair old thermal just when your in the grove on 23R.


The other thing about MAN why does it more often than not have GBFO cell sitting over the top of ROSUN.

[cloudskimmer]

a nice example here of the weather last week at leeds. the captain did a great job

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAljM7CaY10

[RobT100]

Has anyone ever seen a plane go-around from a duff bounced landing or float to far and go-around? I've never seen either having watched 000s of landings so I guess it can't be that common.

get yoiurself to Leeds Bradford on a windy or generally bad day and there is a chance you will see this. Its happened to me and lots of my clients.

[swiss_swiss]

what about this perfectly performed landing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5prz1Ae5QM

i like the nose gear landing only after the first bounce!

[JEM60]

Was that a landing, or was it shot down???

[mad_jock]

Take that City Airport.

BAe machines really are built like brick poo houses.

I presume it needed a check after that one. Wonder if there was any damage.

[llanfairpg]

One of the smoothest landings ever reported was supposed to have been the Dan Air Comet at Newcastle landed by the Chief Pilot. I think the aircraft is still there, he forgot to put the gear down.

[99XXTS]

I wasn't in the Swiss RJ but I surely performed a similar landing in LCY. But in LCY those landings aren't so uncommon.

[RingwaySam]

mad_jock, Perkin,

Thanks for the replies.

That LCY video

[Doors to Automatic]

Here's a cracker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTxCU...eature=related

[swiss_swiss]

that is also a 146/RJ and landing at basel - think its a BA plane tho and not one of the swiss ones

[cats_five]

Originally Posted by Doors to Automatic

Here's a cracker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTxCU...eature=related

The majority of the comments I could bear to read made the majority of the WAGS 777 thread comments look erudite. Thankfully most of the commentators will never be flying a plane of any kind.