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Confirm it us in relation to the cabin crew strike. Titan B757 (G-POWH) and A320 (G-POWM) and Thomas Cook A321s (G-DHJH and G-TCDO) operated today. Privilege Style 767 EC-LZO will be operating tomorrow.
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During the previous 2 occasions of BA cabin crew strikes Titan have based 4 x aircraft at Heathrow. Thomson has also operated a B737-8 on behalf of BA at Heathrow
for the same reasons.
for the same reasons.
I must admit that as a regular passenger and BA FF member for years I am not that keen on the idea of contracting out service to operators that people have often never heard of . TC are abit different because they are a large operation . I know Titan seem to have a good reputation but they are hardly a household name and the other mob i had never heard of and from the comments on here theyseem more likely to feature on the AAIB website than any positive recommendations. What is the positiion n if you pitch up t the gate for the BA xyz and instead are confronted with a possibly garish and unfamiliar nose poking past the jetway.? Can you just say no thanks I'll have my money back or are BA in their rights to sub in anyone they like.
I know BA tried this sort of stunt before with cabin crews on the Caribbean flights- although the girls and boys wore BA uniforms if you flew regularly you knew in an instant they were not BA crew. They apparently had alot of complaints-mine included and I got a lot of airmiles as compensation but whats the situation if you buy a BA flight and it isn't a BA aircraft, its not flown by BA flight deck crew and the CC are not BA either- I mean what is left as BA other than the flight number?
I know BA tried this sort of stunt before with cabin crews on the Caribbean flights- although the girls and boys wore BA uniforms if you flew regularly you knew in an instant they were not BA crew. They apparently had alot of complaints-mine included and I got a lot of airmiles as compensation but whats the situation if you buy a BA flight and it isn't a BA aircraft, its not flown by BA flight deck crew and the CC are not BA either- I mean what is left as BA other than the flight number?
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I must admit that as a regular passenger and BA FF member for years I am not that keen on the idea of contracting out service to operators that people have often never heard of
Give me a cowboy outfit any day!
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Some of you are making unkind and unsubstantiated comments about PRIVILEGE AIRLINES. For the record, Spanish operator Privilige Airlines specialise in this type of work. They have been doing so since 2003 and with a clean safety record. I very much doubt that BA would use "cowboy" operators!
Well said HT! Doesn't the purchase of a ticket commit the supplier of said ticket to get you from A to B, but not necessarily in a craft with the supplier's name on the side?
I taxied past a Thomas Cook A321 at LHR earlier today on a remote stand and wondered why it was there. Also, there was a white A330 with a gold band around the forward passenger door, that in the depths of my mind, belongs to a Portugese ACMI operator ???
my searches certainly haven't come up with anything!
I know BA tried this sort of stunt before with cabin crews on the Caribbean flights- although the girls and boys wore BA uniforms if you flew regularly you knew in an instant they were not BA crew. They apparently had alot of complaints-mine included and I got a lot of airmiles as compensation but whats the situation if you buy a BA flight and it isn't a BA aircraft, its not flown by BA flight deck crew and the CC are not BA either- I mean what is left as BA other than the flight number?
Well I would suggest they should not pitch up in the Balliarics without holding fuel when thunderstorms are forcast arriving at the diversion airfield on little more than fumes
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Tell that to the punters who gave my Cabin Crew a load of abuse when we could not get into a certain Greek destination with exceptionally high minimus post thunderstorm at the start of the season last year!
Crew meal
I did fly on Gib Air operated flights a couple of tiems and the crew were very good, the point I am making is that youcan only stretch branding so far
if its not BA plane
Not BA pilots
Not BA cabin crew
If it all boils down to just a BA ticket that is in my mind too far and verging on deception. My Caribbean experience was just the cabin crew but peoplel finding themselves ona different plane with different livery and different flight deck and cabin crew are entitled to think just how BA this is.
I made a point of not suggesting that Titan , who on the basis of comments on Pprune are perfectly competent and TC who are a big operation anyway but I have never heard of the third operator used and I just dont think BA do themselves any good by relying on the small print in conditions of carriage, especially at a time when they are finding it harder and harder to distinguish themselves from Aer O Leary and big orange . In fact in the short haul market and depending on actual availability and pricing I would say that easyJets Upfront product is the best out there for leisure/holiday travel in Europe
I did fly on Gib Air operated flights a couple of tiems and the crew were very good, the point I am making is that youcan only stretch branding so far
if its not BA plane
Not BA pilots
Not BA cabin crew
If it all boils down to just a BA ticket that is in my mind too far and verging on deception. My Caribbean experience was just the cabin crew but peoplel finding themselves ona different plane with different livery and different flight deck and cabin crew are entitled to think just how BA this is.
I made a point of not suggesting that Titan , who on the basis of comments on Pprune are perfectly competent and TC who are a big operation anyway but I have never heard of the third operator used and I just dont think BA do themselves any good by relying on the small print in conditions of carriage, especially at a time when they are finding it harder and harder to distinguish themselves from Aer O Leary and big orange . In fact in the short haul market and depending on actual availability and pricing I would say that easyJets Upfront product is the best out there for leisure/holiday travel in Europe
How do you think, back in the day, the Americans felt when turning up in Miami for their BA flight to London to find an Air NewZealand DC10?
We operated them with our crews from LAX when ANZ didn't have traffic rights. We ended up with down time and BA utilised them on several routes MIA, BOS and PHL.
Back then New Zealand was not well known amongst our American cousins and the DC10 was known as 'The Widowmaker' due to several fatal incidents.
We operated them with our crews from LAX when ANZ didn't have traffic rights. We ended up with down time and BA utilised them on several routes MIA, BOS and PHL.
Back then New Zealand was not well known amongst our American cousins and the DC10 was known as 'The Widowmaker' due to several fatal incidents.