Farnborough International - Viewing Resrictions
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Farnborough International - Viewing Resrictions
For those accustomed to use the "free" obsevation locations at the western end of the airfield, new restrictions have been announced closing off roads and the Basingstoke Canal during the airshow and the week before for validation flights.
Press Release from FI
And from the Basingstoke Canal Authority
Press Release from FI
16 May 2016
UPDATED INFORMATION REGARDING LOCAL TRAVEL DURING THE FARNBOROUGH INTERNATIONAL AIRSHOW
We understand that information released during our media day has raised questions from both our neighbours and those travelling to Farnborough during the Airshow period. As previously stated, in compliance with the new regulations brought into place following the CAA final report from their Civil Air Display Review, there will be more restrictions for entering areas surrounding TAG Farnborough Airport during flying display times.
These restrictions are expected to be in place between, 12.00 and 16.30 during the week prior to the Airshow, for validation flights, and during the Airshow itself between 12.30 and 17.30.
We have requested that Hampshire County Council close selected roads to all vehicles and pedestrians whilst aerobatic displays are taking place within the dedicated aerobatic flying area. We have also requested the following to be closed with diversions to put in place:
•A section of the A323 Fleet road from its junction with Norris Hill Road and its junction Laffans Road.
•A section of Aldershot Road from its junctions with the A323 Fleet Road and eastern boundary of The Forester public house.
We have also requested that Hampshire County Council close a small section of the Basingstoke Canal between Eelmoor and Norris Bridges and are working with the Council’s cooperation on this matter.
We recognise these restrictions and closures may be an inconvenience, but they are in place to ensure the safety of all. We hope that by publishing these details now it will enable people to plan travel between 4th and 17th July well in advance.
Farnborough International CEO, Shaun Ormrod, said “We are extremely grateful for all the support and advice we receive from both Hampshire County Council and Rushmoor Borough Council in ensuring areas around TAG Farnborough Airport are safe and people are able to continue to go about their business during our show with as little disruption as possible.“
All visitors to this year’s Farnborough International Airshow will see an outstanding flying display. Acts have been specifically chosen who can display within the new regulations without reducing the quality of impact of their performance.
UPDATED INFORMATION REGARDING LOCAL TRAVEL DURING THE FARNBOROUGH INTERNATIONAL AIRSHOW
We understand that information released during our media day has raised questions from both our neighbours and those travelling to Farnborough during the Airshow period. As previously stated, in compliance with the new regulations brought into place following the CAA final report from their Civil Air Display Review, there will be more restrictions for entering areas surrounding TAG Farnborough Airport during flying display times.
These restrictions are expected to be in place between, 12.00 and 16.30 during the week prior to the Airshow, for validation flights, and during the Airshow itself between 12.30 and 17.30.
We have requested that Hampshire County Council close selected roads to all vehicles and pedestrians whilst aerobatic displays are taking place within the dedicated aerobatic flying area. We have also requested the following to be closed with diversions to put in place:
•A section of the A323 Fleet road from its junction with Norris Hill Road and its junction Laffans Road.
•A section of Aldershot Road from its junctions with the A323 Fleet Road and eastern boundary of The Forester public house.
We have also requested that Hampshire County Council close a small section of the Basingstoke Canal between Eelmoor and Norris Bridges and are working with the Council’s cooperation on this matter.
We recognise these restrictions and closures may be an inconvenience, but they are in place to ensure the safety of all. We hope that by publishing these details now it will enable people to plan travel between 4th and 17th July well in advance.
Farnborough International CEO, Shaun Ormrod, said “We are extremely grateful for all the support and advice we receive from both Hampshire County Council and Rushmoor Borough Council in ensuring areas around TAG Farnborough Airport are safe and people are able to continue to go about their business during our show with as little disruption as possible.“
All visitors to this year’s Farnborough International Airshow will see an outstanding flying display. Acts have been specifically chosen who can display within the new regulations without reducing the quality of impact of their performance.
Farnborough International have asked that a small portion of the Canal between Eelmoor and Norris Bridges be closed during flying hours at this year’s Farnborough Airshow. This is as a result of new safety regulations introduced following the Shoreham Airshow crash last year restricting low level flying. As a major event supporting the national economy Hampshire County Council and Basingstoke Canal Authority are happy to support Farnborough International so that they can comply with the new regulations brought into place following the CAA final report from their Civil Air Display Review.
A joint press release from Farnborough International and Hampshire County Council has now been issued on the Farnborough International website www.farnborough.com
Q: Where will the Canal be closed?
A: The Canal and towpath from a point just east of Eelmoor Bridge to a point just west of Norris Bridge will be closed as part of the Airshow perimeter during the hours of flying on 4 - 9 July (noon to approx. 4.30pm) and 11 - 17 July (noon to approx. 5.30pm).
Q: Why weren’t Canal users consulted?
A: Farnborough International are reacting to changes in national safety regulations made by the Civil Aviation Authority which have only recently been finalised; it wasn’t until April that we were aware that there would be an implication for the Canal, unfortunately that meant there was no time to conduct any form of consultation before the decision had to be made about this year’s Airshow.
Q: Will I be able to stand on the towpath, or on a moored boat between Eelmoor and Norris Bridges to watch the flying displays?
A: No – the area will be secured by the Airshow’s security team. Safety regulations mean that no-one is allowed in this area during the flying displays.
A joint press release from Farnborough International and Hampshire County Council has now been issued on the Farnborough International website www.farnborough.com
Q: Where will the Canal be closed?
A: The Canal and towpath from a point just east of Eelmoor Bridge to a point just west of Norris Bridge will be closed as part of the Airshow perimeter during the hours of flying on 4 - 9 July (noon to approx. 4.30pm) and 11 - 17 July (noon to approx. 5.30pm).
Q: Why weren’t Canal users consulted?
A: Farnborough International are reacting to changes in national safety regulations made by the Civil Aviation Authority which have only recently been finalised; it wasn’t until April that we were aware that there would be an implication for the Canal, unfortunately that meant there was no time to conduct any form of consultation before the decision had to be made about this year’s Airshow.
Q: Will I be able to stand on the towpath, or on a moored boat between Eelmoor and Norris Bridges to watch the flying displays?
A: No – the area will be secured by the Airshow’s security team. Safety regulations mean that no-one is allowed in this area during the flying displays.
That seems a tad inconsistent. Are they planning to evacuate the large chunk of Farnborough town that's closer to the runway than some of those closed roads at the other end are ?
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They tried and failed to stop people standing by the swan and FAST a few years ago
but FAST Is closed for show Period.
If they move display area further away north side this would be over the
heavily populated area of Farnborough and getting closer to the Heathrow
control zone .Over Reaction is what we expected and seems getting worse
Safety Yes Stupidity NO
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but FAST Is closed for show Period.
If they move display area further away north side this would be over the
heavily populated area of Farnborough and getting closer to the Heathrow
control zone .Over Reaction is what we expected and seems getting worse
Safety Yes Stupidity NO
Tony
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I get the impression FI are keeping the area free where aerobatics are usually performed, but given that the CAA's instructions following Shoreham crash that aerobatics at airshows were to take place a mile away from any human habitation (I think); aerobatics at FI are probably going to take place less than a mile from places where people live and work e.g. The Foresters pub in Aldershot Road, Church Crookham, the nursery school and office complex etc. adjacent to the Ively Road gyratory at Norris Bridge, Puckeridge Barracks near Eelmoor Bridge etc. etc.
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I get the impression FI are keeping the area free where aerobatics are usually performed, but given that the CAA's instructions following Shoreham crash that aerobatics at airshows were to take place a mile away from any human habitation (I think); aerobatics at FI are probably going to take place less than a mile from places where people live and work e.g. The Foresters pub in Aldershot Road, Church Crookham, the nursery school and office complex etc. adjacent to the Ively Road gyratory at Norris Bridge, Puckeridge Barracks near Eelmoor Bridge etc. etc.
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They tried and failed to stop people standing by the swan and FAST a few years ago
but FAST Is closed for show Period.
If they move display area further away north side this would be over the
heavily populated area of Farnborough and getting closer to the Heathrow
control zone .Over Reaction is what we expected and seems getting worse
Safety Yes Stupidity NO
Tony
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but FAST Is closed for show Period.
If they move display area further away north side this would be over the
heavily populated area of Farnborough and getting closer to the Heathrow
control zone .Over Reaction is what we expected and seems getting worse
Safety Yes Stupidity NO
Tony
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Are they going to evacuate Frimley Park Hospital as well, or maybe the Red Arrows will have to change their display this time round? Usually part of the "formation" flies directly over my house during their display........
EDIT: And I see that admission is GBP48 on the day per person! Outrageous. I live just outside the area where conessions are offered to residents but even so, they are maintaining the 2 for 1 pricing this year, not much use if you wish to attend on your own. Looks like I'll have to give it a miss this time round again, despite having to contend with the week of local traffic jams, air pollution, noise, smell of fuel in the air etc etc. (sigh)
EDIT: And I see that admission is GBP48 on the day per person! Outrageous. I live just outside the area where conessions are offered to residents but even so, they are maintaining the 2 for 1 pricing this year, not much use if you wish to attend on your own. Looks like I'll have to give it a miss this time round again, despite having to contend with the week of local traffic jams, air pollution, noise, smell of fuel in the air etc etc. (sigh)
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The Display is moving to the West, away from Frimley Park hospital, Farnborough and Heathrow !! and yes there is a change to many display sequences this year due to the new rules and yes that will include the Red Arrows.
PS: perhaps buying a house near an airfield that holds a 2 week airshow every 2 years was not a good life choice especially as you will be having to contend with the week of local traffic jams, air pollution, noise, smell of fuel in the air etc etc. (sigh) :-/
PS: perhaps buying a house near an airfield that holds a 2 week airshow every 2 years was not a good life choice especially as you will be having to contend with the week of local traffic jams, air pollution, noise, smell of fuel in the air etc etc. (sigh) :-/
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local Traffic jams dont bother residents we all all aware and plan routes around
the area but the new restrictions could cause problems for visitors so best listen
to local Radio on route 104.6 96.4 And Airshow Radio .
Smell of Aviation fumes well we all need a fix now and then and anyone who
moves here without checking area is bonkers ie this Is Farnborough Hants
Not KENT Flying been here 100 years whats in Kent No Idea.
the area but the new restrictions could cause problems for visitors so best listen
to local Radio on route 104.6 96.4 And Airshow Radio .
Smell of Aviation fumes well we all need a fix now and then and anyone who
moves here without checking area is bonkers ie this Is Farnborough Hants
Not KENT Flying been here 100 years whats in Kent No Idea.
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local Traffic jams dont bother residents we all all aware and plan routes around
the area but the new restrictions could cause problems for visitors so best listen
to local Radio on route 104.6 96.4 And Airshow Radio .
Smell of Aviation fumes well we all need a fix now and then and anyone who
moves here without checking area is bonkers ie this Is Farnborough Hants
Not KENT Flying been here 100 years whats in Kent No Idea.
the area but the new restrictions could cause problems for visitors so best listen
to local Radio on route 104.6 96.4 And Airshow Radio .
Smell of Aviation fumes well we all need a fix now and then and anyone who
moves here without checking area is bonkers ie this Is Farnborough Hants
Not KENT Flying been here 100 years whats in Kent No Idea.
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Biggin airfairs were excellent shame that went . many times got coach from
Aldershot to the show.Still miss the September Farnborough Shows much better
than current ones we had aircraft then V bombers lightnings .
Aldershot to the show.Still miss the September Farnborough Shows much better
than current ones we had aircraft then V bombers lightnings .
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The move from the Sept show in my opinion has improved it, the weather although still not guaranteed is eminently better in July than Sept and the fact that the other big show RIAT is now slap bang in the middle of the Farnborough fortnight also helps with participation at both. I cant help but feel that in the future Farnborough will be just a trade show without an airshow tagged on. Although this will be disappointing we will still see the aircraft arrive and do demo flights but not display as such. We may also see a lot more visiting aircraft during the week so there's always a bright side !
Well, if its any consolation guys, its not only Farnborough but every air show from now on for all eternity. Yesterdays American Air force Museum show at Duxford was a disaster for those that frequent the areas south of the airfield during displays. There were security road blocks everywhere along the roads leading to the fields, motorcycles cops patroling and moving along anyone who managed to get through the first few road block minefields. It was impossible to get in there, and a couple of people who managed to get as far as a field were within minutes escorted out. The "this is a public road" argument didn't work, you weren't even able to be on the main public road to the south of Duxford, so much so, that I witnessed the Duxford security guy pulled up in his car along side one of the fields, waiting for one of his colleagues who had gone into the fields to escort out tresspassers. Motorcycle cop, pulls up, tells everyone to move on pronto, or else. The Duxford security guy flashes his official tag thats hanging from his neck, and says "I'm the Duxford secuity officer and I'm waiting for my colleague to bring people out from the field, I drafted the security rules for Duxford ! ", to which the cop replies "I don't care, I'm here to move any people or vehicles from this road, you move your vehicle now !" , to which the Duxford guy had to drive away there and then. I did catch up to him later at the road block and told him I thought the cop was out of order for treating him like that. It just proved how strict they were about enforcing the regulation. Many people settled for a field outside the cordoned off area which was miles away and on the other side of the M11 which was rather pointless. One of the motorcycle cops, when we had finished a heated discussion and calmed down, told me that he was doing the same duty at Old Warden/Shuttleworth next week also. So this is a permanent state of affairs from now on at all air shows.
Some serious ass-covering going on ...
Clearly it's considered easier to create sterile zones around flying displays than to make sure pilots stick to their planned routine.
Clearly it's considered easier to create sterile zones around flying displays than to make sure pilots stick to their planned routine.
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ah yes, but if we do lose another aircraft at an airshow and people on the ground are hurt or even killed while going about their daily business not connected to the airshow they will probably ban all airshows for good. The days of the naughty field are gone I'm afraid, and yes while they do hold some quite exhilarating memories mostly people have got away with being somewhere they shouldn't and nothing untoward happening.
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I have very fond memories of air shows I attended in the 1950's - 60's, particularly memorable was the 1950 RAF Air Display at Farnborough which I attended that featured a scenario where Vampires fired live rockets from almost above the crowd to attack a strong point at the far end of the airfield - for an impressionable youngster very exciting!
As regards 'dangerous?' flying, have a look at these screen grabs from my 8mm cine film of Neville Browning inverted in his Zlin G-ASIM at a Battle of Britain display at Biggin Hill which I estimate I shot in the 1960's (I bought my cine camera in 1960).
Neville Browning in his Zlin Treiner approaches inverted
Passing overhead along the crowd line - my guess is that he is 20 - 30ft above the crowd!
Still inverted
Climbing away - still inverted
Apologies for the quality but 8mm cine-film screen grabs are no match when compared to still camera photos
while they do hold some quite exhilarating memories mostly people have got away with being somewhere they shouldn't and nothing untoward happening
As regards 'dangerous?' flying, have a look at these screen grabs from my 8mm cine film of Neville Browning inverted in his Zlin G-ASIM at a Battle of Britain display at Biggin Hill which I estimate I shot in the 1960's (I bought my cine camera in 1960).
Neville Browning in his Zlin Treiner approaches inverted
Passing overhead along the crowd line - my guess is that he is 20 - 30ft above the crowd!
Still inverted
Climbing away - still inverted
Apologies for the quality but 8mm cine-film screen grabs are no match when compared to still camera photos
Yesterdays American Air force Museum show at Duxford was a disaster for those that frequent the areas south of the airfield during displays.
I can remember the very last air show held at Bournemouth Airport back in 1991 when farmers were charging spectators to park in their fields to the south of the airport which resulted in many of the display pilots complaining of the large crowds under their flightpaths. Also the crowds lining the perimeter road got the fright of their lives when the Canberra burst a tyre on landing and careered of the runway towards them!
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The days of the naughty field are gone I'm afraid
Accessing such land might require turning-up before road closures are imposed but most enthusiasts won't find that a problem.
Well, at least that stops people watching an expensive-to-put-on airshow for free!
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Not at all. If you have private land ( say, a garden or a field ) near a display then the 'authorities' can do nothing about prohibiting others from using that land with your permission. Short of going to court for an injunction. After all, I might just happen to have my birthday on the same day as Farnborough's public show and have invited 70 friends around to celebrate...
Accessing such land might require turning-up before road closures are imposed but most enthusiasts won't find that a problem.
Accessing such land might require turning-up before road closures are imposed but most enthusiasts won't find that a problem.