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Concorde barrel rolls.

Old 24th Oct 2013, 09:43
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Concorde barrel rolls.

BBC News - Could Concorde ever fly again? No, says British Airways

He told me they did execute barrel rolls, but never a loop-the-loop, although the aeroplane was more than capable of doing it.
That I would like to see. Any photos/film?
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 09:59
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Airport '80 wasn't it?
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 10:14
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YouTube is your friend:


Uploaded on 15 Feb 2012
Brian Walpole talks about Concorde, mentioning the occasion he barrel-rolled her.
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 10:42
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Why this 'obsession' with barrel-rolls? Flown properly it is needs only just over 1g (flown improperly, of course.............)
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Aw c'mon BOAC, A Pitts doing a barrel roll is nothing, a big multi engine anything gets the blood going.


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fc101: thanks

BOAC: agreed, in theory a simple thing but easy to bugger up in something that size and possibly limited hands on time. I'll bet it looked great from inside & out
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I have a vague memory of an interview with Brian Trubshaw when he said that, when flying on the First prototype with Andre Tourcat, he was shown an aileron roll in one direction and then did one himself the other way.

But maybe I'm mistaken.
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 22:50
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Why this 'obsession' with barrel-rolls? Flown properly it is needs only just over 1g
Hi BOAC, agreed . A low flyby over White Waltham in a VC10 is not difficult either, but these events tend to be discussed at a later hearing and can be detrimental to one's career.

I was led to believe that S***k barrel rolled Concorde. I would love it to be true. Presumbly much easier than "Tex Johnson's barrell roll of the Boeing 707 proto type.
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 10:50
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I remember reading that an 'american' TP who was allowed to fly a Concorde wanted to try a barrel roll but the BAE TP (Cochrane I think) wouldn't let him.
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I have a vague memory of an interview with Brian Trubshaw when he said that, when flying on the First prototype with Andre Tourcat, he was shown an aileron roll in one direction and then did one himself the other way.
Dixi, I think that was Brian Walpole as above.
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 15:40
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I was at White Waltham when the VC10 did the low fly-by,it was estimated that the u/c was only 11ft.6ins from the grass runway,Oh,those were the days.
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 15:46
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As far as I recall, (I think I saw it live on telly) the VC10 at Waltham did it gear up/flaps down; that's what made it extra spectacular!!
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 16:28
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Photo here from PPRuNe a few years ago:

http://www.pprune.org/aviation-histo...ml#post5115421

"On the way back we discussed with the crew the flypast. I asked if the captain had meant to do a 'touch and go', he replied 'No, as the wheels were up!'"
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Old 26th Oct 2013, 20:41
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Ok, so somebody explain how those delta wings can maintain lift whilst inverted to the ground.......in simple terms please.,..
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Old 27th Oct 2013, 23:17
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Windsheer,

The wing is still 'lifting' during a barrel role. As BOAC said, it's a 1g (ish) manoeuvre.
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