Wikiposts
Search
Spectators Balcony (Spotters Corner) If you're not a professional pilot but want to discuss issues about the job, this is the best place to loiter. You won't be moved on by 'security' and there'll be plenty of experts to answer any questions.

Airport Live

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 19th Jun 2013, 23:23
  #61 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The foot of Mt. Belzoni.
Posts: 2,001
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A great shame that Raymond Baxter, William Woollard, James Burke and Michael Rodd, didn't present this.
ZOOKER is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 01:21
  #62 (permalink)  
Paxing All Over The World
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Hertfordshire, UK.
Age: 67
Posts: 10,150
Received 62 Likes on 50 Posts
ZOOKER
A great shame that Raymond Baxter, William Woollard, James Burke and Michael Rodd, didn't present this.
For one of them, that would have been rather difficult.
PAXboy is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 02:37
  #63 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Cheshire
Age: 45
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
They could at least put more focus on the need to expand and put to the public what benifits this would bring.
rowly6339 is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 09:23
  #64 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Berkshire, UK
Age: 79
Posts: 8,268
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I met a number of presenters whilst at Heathrow and James Burke, bless him, was first class and had obviously mugged up very seriously on the subject.
HEATHROW DIRECTOR is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 09:29
  #65 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: UK
Age: 69
Posts: 475
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
for todays standards this programme is excellent
Safety Concerns is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 09:35
  #66 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: London
Posts: 355
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is an interesting series, and quite a bold thing to do for the BBC, live TV from a notoriously changeable environment.

I think the series is aimed at the public, and for us aviation professionals we cringe, but we cringe because we know more than what is being presented. To joe public who get on a Thomson 737 once a year it does help unravel some of the mysteries and answer some of the questions that I hear at every departure gate around the country.

No, they're not being very technical or advanced, for example explaining that lift is actually produced due to the turning motion of the air (as opposed to simple pressure differences) but they are at least giving people a good understanding of some of the basic principles involved in modern aviation.

I think it's a middle of the road programme appealing to the masses, it is a shame that they didn't use a more subtle, but political approach to reinforce the need for expansion and the huge positive impact aviation has on the country, but then for the public sat at home eating sausage and chips do they really care?
cumbrianboy is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 10:51
  #67 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Where the Money Takes Me
Posts: 947
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Last night's classic from KH - "over there are the maintenance sheds"....

Oh how I laughed!
LGW Vulture is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 10:56
  #68 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: North of Watford Gap
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Plane this Plane that. Plane plane plane............ aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
Airfrance7 is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 11:09
  #69 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Nirvana
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A coin toss resulted in watching paint dry
Cyber Bob is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 11:40
  #70 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 445
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This programme is not aimed at the aviation fraternity; it is to be hoped that such people will know the technical jargon and use the correct industry terminology, sadly not always the case!

However in my experience, I have found that many in the industry have, in fact, scant knowledge of what happens in the next office. There have been hints of that in the series!

So I feel that many airport workers will certainly be gleaning information from the series and the general public, at whom it is really aimed, should get a pretty good feel for what happens and why it happens in language which they are likely to understand.

The series demonstrates very clearly that the safe, expeditious and efficient operation of airports and aeroplanes is a consequence of team effort and that although some may feel that they are more important or work harder than others, this is not the case.

Let's face it, the media aren't known for their attention to correct detail as many on these forums frequently complain!

If the programme really offends, select the 'off' switch!
Helen49 is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 11:50
  #71 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: There and here
Posts: 2,866
Received 25 Likes on 18 Posts
However in my experience, I have found that many in the industry have, in fact, scant knowledge of what happens in the next office. There have been hints of that in the series!
Whilst signing off the Virgin flight to South Africa, the presenter asked the gate operative why the entry door was always on the left hand side, to which they replied, "That's how it is, passengers on the left, cargo (catering) through the right door I'd hazard that it came about through maritime connections, the left side being 'port' and where passengers would board Pedants and professors feel free to correct me



SHJ
SpringHeeledJack is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 12:01
  #72 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Where the Money Takes Me
Posts: 947
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Which reminds me. Waving off the "Captain" - Hmmmm.....wrong side of the "plane" my dear!
LGW Vulture is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 13:33
  #73 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: world
Posts: 3,424
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
As an education for Joe Public I think this program does the job. Those who want to be picky and pedantic are not aviation professionals but idiots who think they can impress us with their vast self acclaimed knowledge! Those of us working in the profession know only too well how difficult it is to describe our jobs in detail to someone with little or no background knowledge. The idea of the program is not to take the viewer through a 3 year intensive course on all subjects relating to an airport operation, but to give them a simplified overlook. In that respect I found the program more than adequate for the audience it's directed at.
Hotel Tango is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 13:34
  #74 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 15,822
Received 206 Likes on 94 Posts
the presenter asked the gate operative why the entry door was always on the left hand side
All is explained here:

Why do we board a plane on the left ? - Aeronewstv

including the assertion that passengers board from the left because the doors are bigger on that side.

Or, alternatively, it's all to do with knights of old getting on their horses from the left to avoid embarrassing accidents with their swords.
DaveReidUK is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 13:55
  #75 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Bristol.
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Airport live

Learnt one thing ( perhaps I'm thick) didn't know contrails meant condensation trails! Learn something every day ps I'm 59
superq7 is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 16:39
  #76 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: South London
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There were a couple of possible clangers in Wednesday's programme:

i) when the Scottish salmon was being loaded in the Virgin aircraft, the presenter commented (words to the effect) 'that it was Scotland's largest import'. Surely export?

ii) When asked about the convention about boarding on the left, the Virgin despatcher said that 'passengers are evacuated on the right'?

Obviously I may have misheared these comments and I'm happy to be corrected. However, my main observation was that aircraft life seems to be rather monotonous, and the producers of the programme are struggling to make run of the mill seem interesting, unless of course I'm missing a trick!
Tight Accountant is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 17:28
  #77 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A lot of typical nigel replies to the subject, its aimed at Joe Public, if it was aimed at nigels then it would be one hour of how large you're wallet is, about you're second job, commuting or how tired you are
Yes the down side is the commentating, Kate got thrown in at the deep end, Dallas is a put off because of his name.
The only thing that struck me is two cases of a poor load factor on VS....
Mr Angry from Purley is offline  
Old 20th Jun 2013, 17:48
  #78 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: England
Posts: 1,008
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ii) When asked about the convention about boarding on the left, the Virgin despatcher said that 'passengers are evacuated on the right'?
While not necessarily true, Virgin TCO's are trained in such a way that R1/Rwhatever are the preferred exit routes in an evacuation
750XL is offline  
Old 21st Jun 2013, 10:55
  #79 (permalink)  
HP7
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Near Gatwick
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Overall that was an excellent job by the Beeb and the snidy conceited comments by some on here show what small minded people they are.

A nice blend of various aspects invloved with the airport and the industry in general with ATC being a sensible hub for the whole thiing and coming across extremely well (as did virtually all the contributors)

Well done BBC
HP7 is offline  
Old 21st Jun 2013, 13:28
  #80 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 889
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I was slightly worried on day one as both of the female presenters seemed to be in 'rampant rabbit mode' however they calmed down a bit and I found it a useful bit of popular TV.

Dallas, let slip his dad was a Captain I wonder if his name is a bit of a Brooklyn Beckham and dad 'enjoyed' a good night stop in that fine city!
vctenderness is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.