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Going through Ruislip this afternoon I thought I saw some kind of business jet making an approach to Denham.
Do business jets regularly use Denham or was it going somewhere else entirely? It certainly didn't seem to be heading for Northolt.
Do business jets regularly use Denham or was it going somewhere else entirely? It certainly didn't seem to be heading for Northolt.
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I was at Denham in the 1970s and saw a Citation land on the grass (before the hard runway was built). I believe it was being demonstrated to United Biscuits who can't have been that impressed as they ended up buying another King Air (G-HLUB Hector Laing United Biscuits). Made an impression on me though! I now have about 3000 hours on Citations but have yet to land one on grass.
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At Ruislip, Northolt would be south of you and Denham north. I very much doubt if a business jet would head for Denham, except in dire emergency. But, as always, I could be wrong...
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Have a look here: SBS Forum :: View topic - The Royal Squadron
Apparently a lot of activity at Northolt to/from Heathrow. Possibly you saw one of those?
Apparently a lot of activity at Northolt to/from Heathrow. Possibly you saw one of those?
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From: Too close to Croydon for comfort
I vaguely recollect a 1980ish (?) story about a Learjet, an overly keen pilot, Denham, an undershoot, a hedgerow and some damage... Anyone recall? No, not the Spanish Lear that finished up on the A40 at Northolt.
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I would say it was heading for Northolt, As I know that section of Chiltern Mainline can play tricks on you.
As the Line heads South and just before South Ruislip turns West.
So the BZZ Jet Might have been heading South West for Northolt's 25, Being west of the tracks.
Hopeing that made sense.
As the Line heads South and just before South Ruislip turns West.
So the BZZ Jet Might have been heading South West for Northolt's 25, Being west of the tracks.
Hopeing that made sense.
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From: Hotel this week, hotel next week, home whenever...
Can confirm that it has been a few years since the citations used to visit. It's possible if they're lightly loaded.
Can confirm (by default from the above!) that there was no biz jet at Denham yesterday.
Did hear a PC12 call late afternoon (N12AG) - these are becoming more frequent visitors, I can think of 5 or 6 that visit on a reqular basis.
Can confirm (by default from the above!) that there was no biz jet at Denham yesterday.
Did hear a PC12 call late afternoon (N12AG) - these are becoming more frequent visitors, I can think of 5 or 6 that visit on a reqular basis.
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...and in the mid 1990s a VP- reg Citation II was quite a regular visitor.
Jarvis123
You are correct from mid 96 until the last flight July 2004 it was great fun nearest you get to a carrier landing never did it at night!!!
Jarvis123
You are correct from mid 96 until the last flight July 2004 it was great fun nearest you get to a carrier landing never did it at night!!!
Only can remember seeing you go around the once!
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From: Northwood
32 sqdn seemed to be doing 'VIP' flights around london and surronding area, the 125's were overshooting Northolts runway and turning base at 1500' over denham, certanly not the normal routing. quite a nice sight from denham as they turned.
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Trafficpilot
700m ish of runway would be pushing it a bit
Why would you make such a sweeping statement?
Each individual flight had a perf calculation made for fuel requirements, payload, WAT, Brake energy, Accel Stop, V1, Vr, V2, TODR, LDR, takeoff climb. I can tell you that every time it was in limits for a dry runway.
Wet runway was a no go T/O or Ldg.
All flights arrived early morning, dep late PM or early evening for low temp. No night landings were made.
Diverted 3 times due wet runway delayed two flights due high temp in the afternoon, night stopped once because of wx, went around once.
700m ish of runway would be pushing it a bit
Why would you make such a sweeping statement?
Each individual flight had a perf calculation made for fuel requirements, payload, WAT, Brake energy, Accel Stop, V1, Vr, V2, TODR, LDR, takeoff climb. I can tell you that every time it was in limits for a dry runway.
Wet runway was a no go T/O or Ldg.
All flights arrived early morning, dep late PM or early evening for low temp. No night landings were made.
Diverted 3 times due wet runway delayed two flights due high temp in the afternoon, night stopped once because of wx, went around once.
Last edited by Fast Flight01; 27th November 2009 at 13:55.