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Old 1st Sep 2009, 15:38
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Please do your homework before asking such dumb questions!
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Cabin interior

Any shots of the interior? or is it a secret?
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Interior is 32 seats arranged 2-2, all forward facing, lie-flat. They are quite similar to the Thai Airways J seat (in design not colour) but they extend flat.

The shot below slipped into a Investor Day presentation and was hastily removed, but not before it spread onto the t'interweb:



There is also a cellular data network (GPRS style) available so passengers will be able to use data services such as Blackberry and datacard modems, but no Wi-Fi and no voice calling.
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 04:22
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It looks very good, but it does remind me of my dentist's chair. It's the way the tray is laid out over the top of the seat.

Good luck to BA, they deserve a break. I hope the operation works out unlike Open Skies which seems to have gone very quiet at the moment.
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 06:32
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks to me that if the person in the aisle seat is in the lie-flat position the person at the window has to step over them to get out
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Club World Seating

If I remember correctly on the standard Club World configuration for a 744, the adjacent seats face in opposite directions but you still have to step over somebody to get to the loo.

The flights will clear US Immigration at Shannon.

Has the route this flight will take been discussed?

For people in central London LCY isn't much more comvenient than LHR.

All this to avoid Terminal 5, it doesn't seem worth it.
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 10:50
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For people in central London LCY isn't much more comvenient than LHR.
Depends how it's marketed. As you say, it isn't much more convenient although the will be an overall time saving of around an hour from the City to Manhattan.

However, if you market it as "non-stop from JFK to the City of London", you may get a different answer.
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Can an A318 even reach NYC from London?
Do airlines buy aeroplanes that won't do the missions they want then?

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For people in central London LCY isn't much more comvenient than LHR.
Oooh, I dunno. How long to LCY from The City or Canary Wharf? 20 mins on the DLR? How long to LHR? An hour? There's 40 mins saved. What about the guaranteed 15 minute check-in vs. LHR? Even with Express Lane at LHR for J-class, you have to allow an awful lot more time than that. I'd probably allow myself at least an hour. So now we're at almost an hour and a half. Taxi time at LHR from T5 and aircraft queuing vs. LHR? What, 15-30 minute saving? Clear Customs and Immigration in Shannon - 15-20 minute saving versus doing it in JFK with every other flight coming in at the same time?

How long's the tech. stop in SNN? 45 mins? So I reckon you save about an hour to 90 mins.

And you don't have to mix with hordes of the great unwashed at the airport.

And you don't have to hang around in an airport lounge at LHR (nice though BA's lounge is, where time is money it's best avoided).

No. This is a nice product for those business persons in the City who do still have an expense account.

Whether the financial crisis has killed the market, though - now that's the question!

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Yes they do, it can't reach JFK from LCY
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If the aircraft can't do the mission, then this service won't exist. Because it can't. The aircraft can't do the mission.
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The mission is not LCY - NYC non-stop.
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Had a quick look on BA website, 45 mins in Shannon, journey time 9:45 there, 7:35 back, GBP 2282 inc. return.

You pays your money you takes your choice
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For a tech stop, don't just include the time taken on the ground. You also lose time (versus an aircraft which is already in the cruise) when you are descending and slowing for landing, and also climbing and accelerating to the cruise again. (Although things such as short taxi times at LCY may help to offset some of this).
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Any shots of the interior? or is it a secret?

Yes, it's a secret. For now. Bribes to the usual address.
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What is the diversion alternate from snn for the BA A318 operation?

In spite of itself Cork may one day get a westbound North Atlantic diversion?
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G-EUNA crew training at RAF Lyneham today.......and tomorrow.
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Old 4th Sep 2009, 12:42
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Pretty certain I saw a BA A318 over my house just now - twice actually! I live roughly under the departure flightpath on easterlies. Wonder if BA are undergoing training at LCY??

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Old 4th Sep 2009, 14:49
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The runway at LCY is pretty tight, there are two bridges, including the Sir Steve Redgrave Bridge, close to the end of the runways, you would certainly notice a jet taking off and landing. LCY is pretty quiet at weekends perhaps something happening then

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Old 4th Sep 2009, 16:17
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I live ENE of LCY about 6-8 miles away!

Yes definitely something happpening saw it about 5-6 times at least .
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Old 4th Sep 2009, 17:55
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G-EUNA at LCY now.......
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Old 4th Sep 2009, 17:59
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This service is squarely aimed at the Canary Wharf type punter and will save a hell of a lot of time over using T5. JFK immigration twenty minutes? You havin' a larf there Guvnor? And the rest.

Time is money, as is a stress-free flight allowing the users of the service to spend the minimum time in the bottlenecks. That's the whole reasoning behind the service, you pay for the convenience and it repays that fare in productive time gained. The Business Class traveller from the City won't be bothering with trains and the like either so that sweaty, congested trip in a cab to Heathrow is also avoided.
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