Female Pilots
I don't really care whether I'm flying with a female, ethnic minority or whatever other non-WASP one can think of.
What matters is:
a) Can they do the job and be reasonably agreeable on the flight deck?
b) Do they go out for a beer afterwards? (secondary consideration subject to their personal wishes, of course) Had one lass regale me with her gyno probs
as I fervently wished for CC female or gay male to field the Ahhh sympathy bit 
What matters is:
a) Can they do the job and be reasonably agreeable on the flight deck?
b) Do they go out for a beer afterwards? (secondary consideration subject to their personal wishes, of course) Had one lass regale me with her gyno probs
as I fervently wished for CC female or gay male to field the Ahhh sympathy bit
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Having been trained with female pilots from the beginning and not knowing any different, it has been pretty clear that you get good ones and useless ones, exactly the same as the blokes!!
Not entirely sure what all the fuss is about considering the history (Amy Johnson et al)!
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Not entirely sure what all the fuss is about considering the history (Amy Johnson et al)!
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Ok, sensing how steep this slope is, I didn't want to join in. But, I found a grain of salt in my way and here it goes:
Girls in the cockpit? Well, for a starter, I feel most of them have a problem. They know they are judged and observed. Therefore the first attitude of a women pilot is to be defensive or even agressive. I have yet to find a women that "acts" normaly when seated in a flying machine
In my >20 years of private or professional flying, I have met quite a few male pilots that impressed me. Their decision making, situation awareness, leadership or handling were really outstanding. I have yet to meet a flying gal leaving me in awe, at least flyinwise
Oh well, it is probably ME that has a negative attitude towards the gender
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Girls in the cockpit? Well, for a starter, I feel most of them have a problem. They know they are judged and observed. Therefore the first attitude of a women pilot is to be defensive or even agressive. I have yet to find a women that "acts" normaly when seated in a flying machine
In my >20 years of private or professional flying, I have met quite a few male pilots that impressed me. Their decision making, situation awareness, leadership or handling were really outstanding. I have yet to meet a flying gal leaving me in awe, at least flyinwise
Oh well, it is probably ME that has a negative attitude towards the gender
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Fly4fud,
poor little boy! What are you doing to make all of those lovely girls aggressive? I can only speak for myself (I don't fly with other girls, there is only one on my fleet who sits in the other seat and our paths have not yet crossed,) but each time I have been sim checked/route checked etc, there is one word that is always mentioned - supportive. Aggressive and defensive have not yet popped up. I do know the occassional aggressive woman pilot, but most of them are out there to enjoy their careers doing something they love with others who appreciate their enthusiasm for flying, and I have known a greater number of aggressive men pilots.
I have found that the only things that can dampen a great desire to fly for a living are people in the other seat who are on a mission to make your life hell. Like the ones who say you are only here because you've got tits, for example. Turning to them and saying, no I'm only here because I passed the written exams, the flying exams, the job interview, the medical and the type rating course seems to do no good. You still get people who say women are defensive witches taking mens' jobs by fluttering their eyelashes at the examiner/interviewer, and that we are only there to fill the quota anyway.
It makes me sad. It also makes me look forward to flying with the pilots who are true professionals, and make my job a job I look forward to doing each day. Fly4 fud, if I ever fly with you, don't put up your anti-harridan shields. If you do I won't get out the little screen wipe thingies to clean your instruments, and I certainly won't get out my sweetie box to share my choccies with you.
poor little boy! What are you doing to make all of those lovely girls aggressive? I can only speak for myself (I don't fly with other girls, there is only one on my fleet who sits in the other seat and our paths have not yet crossed,) but each time I have been sim checked/route checked etc, there is one word that is always mentioned - supportive. Aggressive and defensive have not yet popped up. I do know the occassional aggressive woman pilot, but most of them are out there to enjoy their careers doing something they love with others who appreciate their enthusiasm for flying, and I have known a greater number of aggressive men pilots.
I have found that the only things that can dampen a great desire to fly for a living are people in the other seat who are on a mission to make your life hell. Like the ones who say you are only here because you've got tits, for example. Turning to them and saying, no I'm only here because I passed the written exams, the flying exams, the job interview, the medical and the type rating course seems to do no good. You still get people who say women are defensive witches taking mens' jobs by fluttering their eyelashes at the examiner/interviewer, and that we are only there to fill the quota anyway.
It makes me sad. It also makes me look forward to flying with the pilots who are true professionals, and make my job a job I look forward to doing each day. Fly4 fud, if I ever fly with you, don't put up your anti-harridan shields. If you do I won't get out the little screen wipe thingies to clean your instruments, and I certainly won't get out my sweetie box to share my choccies with you.
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Pandora:
Uh, yeah: You are pretty much right, but there are some of your sisters out there that got the job because of great performance
flapping their eye lashes and such.
Remember: "Good girls go to Heaven, bad girls go Places".
To change that, lets have 50 percent of the airlines operated and crewed by females:
It is up to ya girls: Go and do it, no restrictions...Hire all the bimbos.
Some old captain I flew with years ago said: Girl pilots can be good and they can be bad, but if they are bad, they are really bad.
Before ya jump on my conservative bones:
I have as much experience with girl pilots as any other guy out there: Do enjoy most of them, and most work hard and and do a good job.
(If things went to sh......t, I would like to have a competent female in the right seat, or the back seat, sure enough.
But if she got the job because she had nice
mamal glands, I would rather have Mr. Ugly over there....
And oh, how many female flyers got the job these days because the slept with the boss or because they were a "Minority"?
Not many, but even if a few did: Way too many.
Cheers
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Uh, yeah: You are pretty much right, but there are some of your sisters out there that got the job because of great performance
flapping their eye lashes and such.
Remember: "Good girls go to Heaven, bad girls go Places".
To change that, lets have 50 percent of the airlines operated and crewed by females:
It is up to ya girls: Go and do it, no restrictions...Hire all the bimbos.
Some old captain I flew with years ago said: Girl pilots can be good and they can be bad, but if they are bad, they are really bad.
Before ya jump on my conservative bones:
I have as much experience with girl pilots as any other guy out there: Do enjoy most of them, and most work hard and and do a good job.
(If things went to sh......t, I would like to have a competent female in the right seat, or the back seat, sure enough.
But if she got the job because she had nice
mamal glands, I would rather have Mr. Ugly over there....
And oh, how many female flyers got the job these days because the slept with the boss or because they were a "Minority"?
Not many, but even if a few did: Way too many.
Cheers
Dino TowerDog.
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Pandora, no hard feelings. Rest assured that despite my writings, I will continue to give a clean sheet of paper to every women pilot I am gonna fly with. And I'm still ready to believe I was just plain unlucky.
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Nose gear.
Calling me autistic is fighting talk where I come from! You're lucky though, I've moved.
If you read (and understood) my comments you will find they actually are respectful of women.
I,unfortunately, can find neither the thread with male/female accident types nor the report on autism and was hoping someone else would have some knowledge of them.
Shame that, it could have been a fun debate but not with all the PC around!
Calling me autistic is fighting talk where I come from! You're lucky though, I've moved.
If you read (and understood) my comments you will find they actually are respectful of women.
I,unfortunately, can find neither the thread with male/female accident types nor the report on autism and was hoping someone else would have some knowledge of them.
Shame that, it could have been a fun debate but not with all the PC around!
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Mr Moto,
any debate you wish to start on the genetic aspects of the human mind versus human body is welcome.
At this point in my post I apologise for getting a bit serious and anyone who just wanted to have a dig at anyone else on the basis of what the keep in their trousers should probably just ignore my rant.
Back to Mr Moto. I suspect that you are already reasonably familiar with the weaknesses of the XY chromosome arrangement in comparison to the stronger XX chromosome. True, it means that the female brain is constructed in a slightly different way to the male brain, resulting in a slight initial spatial disadvantage. However the differences between the male and female brain are not that much greater than the differences between left-handed and right-handed brains. It has been conclusively shown that differences in spatial ability btween men and women (and indeed left and right-handed people) can be minimised with practise. After all right-handed people who have their right arm amputated can learn to write with their left hand. So women will have to work harder to start with at technical subjects, and men will have to work harder in the topics that women have a natural advantage in, such as communication skills. With training and practise, however, both sexes should be able to function quite competently in the same environment.
So there is the psychology bit over and done with. Next onto genetics, a subject I studied at university but, alas, not to as high a level as neuroscience. You mentioned that the incidence of autism is higher in men than in women. This is true for many genetic abnormalities including cystic fibrosis, autism, colour blindness and a whole stack of other really weird and wonderful diseases. the reason for this is that men have their extra little dangly bits on the outside of their bodies, whereas women have theirs where they can't be seen - on their sex chromosomes. In the male sex chromosome Y, any abnormalities present are not masked by the X chromosome and manifest themselves as physical symptoms. In womens' sex chromosomes, each X is masked by another dominant X and this makes it impossible for the symptoms to manifest themselves. However women can be carriers of a defective gene which when paired with a defective gene from a male carrier can result in female babies being born with congenital conditions such as autism.
In the grand scheme of things it is not important if nature loses a few males along the way because the important job of getting pregnant and giving birth is done by the female of the species. It was intended that in evolutionary terms the females would require the extra lifespan, stamina and resistance to disease to ensure that their offspring reached an age where they could exist on their own. Of course now we all live longer, and have started to find other things to do with our time. Men have stopped building nests, catching food and shagging till they dropped down dead, and women have stopped popping babies out till they are shrivelled-up little prunes. We have the extra life time to do other things, like getting jobs, and then arguing about who's jobs they were to start with, and who is better at them and why.
So there is some background info to the good old male/female argument. Do with it what you will.
any debate you wish to start on the genetic aspects of the human mind versus human body is welcome.
At this point in my post I apologise for getting a bit serious and anyone who just wanted to have a dig at anyone else on the basis of what the keep in their trousers should probably just ignore my rant.
Back to Mr Moto. I suspect that you are already reasonably familiar with the weaknesses of the XY chromosome arrangement in comparison to the stronger XX chromosome. True, it means that the female brain is constructed in a slightly different way to the male brain, resulting in a slight initial spatial disadvantage. However the differences between the male and female brain are not that much greater than the differences between left-handed and right-handed brains. It has been conclusively shown that differences in spatial ability btween men and women (and indeed left and right-handed people) can be minimised with practise. After all right-handed people who have their right arm amputated can learn to write with their left hand. So women will have to work harder to start with at technical subjects, and men will have to work harder in the topics that women have a natural advantage in, such as communication skills. With training and practise, however, both sexes should be able to function quite competently in the same environment.
So there is the psychology bit over and done with. Next onto genetics, a subject I studied at university but, alas, not to as high a level as neuroscience. You mentioned that the incidence of autism is higher in men than in women. This is true for many genetic abnormalities including cystic fibrosis, autism, colour blindness and a whole stack of other really weird and wonderful diseases. the reason for this is that men have their extra little dangly bits on the outside of their bodies, whereas women have theirs where they can't be seen - on their sex chromosomes. In the male sex chromosome Y, any abnormalities present are not masked by the X chromosome and manifest themselves as physical symptoms. In womens' sex chromosomes, each X is masked by another dominant X and this makes it impossible for the symptoms to manifest themselves. However women can be carriers of a defective gene which when paired with a defective gene from a male carrier can result in female babies being born with congenital conditions such as autism.
In the grand scheme of things it is not important if nature loses a few males along the way because the important job of getting pregnant and giving birth is done by the female of the species. It was intended that in evolutionary terms the females would require the extra lifespan, stamina and resistance to disease to ensure that their offspring reached an age where they could exist on their own. Of course now we all live longer, and have started to find other things to do with our time. Men have stopped building nests, catching food and shagging till they dropped down dead, and women have stopped popping babies out till they are shrivelled-up little prunes. We have the extra life time to do other things, like getting jobs, and then arguing about who's jobs they were to start with, and who is better at them and why.
So there is some background info to the good old male/female argument. Do with it what you will.
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Pandora:
Yes, the X and Y hormones and all that is great.
Lack of common sense is however an occasional problem with some female pilots I have known:
Remember the Cessan Caravan (C-208): When them machines first came out there was a great PR thing about Fed-Ex buying the lot, and they were big time utility planes made for the over-night freight business, etc.
Wrong: A small firm I worked for bought the first Caravan: A woman pilot who cried on my shoulder a few months earlier, as she had crashed a C-207 attempting a down wind take- off on a short dirt strip with a pay-load onboard, did crash that first Caravan: Killed herself and a couple of pax as the motor stopped after T/O due to fuel starvation.
Sad story and for sure, but one of the reasons this female pilot was employed in the first place was that we had a female chief pilot, and she of course hired one of the sisters.
My ex-wife was also a pilot and she did some stuff that surprised me: She was busy flying the book, as she was thought, not the airplane. (The book is always right, therefore ya shall need no talents or instincts as to what is right or wrong.)
As I stated in the first posting: Not too impressed, yet some are good and motived from a proffesional stand point, and not out there to write history books and prove the gender.
Just don't come out and make belive that all them females are not only just as good, but had to work twice as hard to get there.
Uh, what is my point: Bad apples out there as far as both sexes for sure, yet percentage-wise, perhaps the males are not
looking too bad:
Just remember Ms. Female Eastern scab Value Jet Captain in the Everglades.
She did not impress this male TowerDog, regardless of her Y or X hormones being in the right or wrong place.
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Yes, the X and Y hormones and all that is great.
Lack of common sense is however an occasional problem with some female pilots I have known:
Remember the Cessan Caravan (C-208): When them machines first came out there was a great PR thing about Fed-Ex buying the lot, and they were big time utility planes made for the over-night freight business, etc.
Wrong: A small firm I worked for bought the first Caravan: A woman pilot who cried on my shoulder a few months earlier, as she had crashed a C-207 attempting a down wind take- off on a short dirt strip with a pay-load onboard, did crash that first Caravan: Killed herself and a couple of pax as the motor stopped after T/O due to fuel starvation.
Sad story and for sure, but one of the reasons this female pilot was employed in the first place was that we had a female chief pilot, and she of course hired one of the sisters.
My ex-wife was also a pilot and she did some stuff that surprised me: She was busy flying the book, as she was thought, not the airplane. (The book is always right, therefore ya shall need no talents or instincts as to what is right or wrong.)
As I stated in the first posting: Not too impressed, yet some are good and motived from a proffesional stand point, and not out there to write history books and prove the gender.
Just don't come out and make belive that all them females are not only just as good, but had to work twice as hard to get there.
Uh, what is my point: Bad apples out there as far as both sexes for sure, yet percentage-wise, perhaps the males are not
looking too bad:
Just remember Ms. Female Eastern scab Value Jet Captain in the Everglades.
She did not impress this male TowerDog, regardless of her Y or X hormones being in the right or wrong place.
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I've said this before, there is no such thing a male or female pilots. On the flight deck there are only pilots.
You can't escape society's attitudes, but on the flight deck professionalism should be the key.
It's obvious that one or two men on this thread, the obvious characters,simply do not like womem flying. They are careful in what they say but their emphasis is on the negative aspects of the women they knew and flew with.
It's men like that who cause women to appear defensive and causes untold anguish.
I wonder how you manage to live in this world, where half the population is female. It must be tough for you.
You're pathetic.
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You can't escape society's attitudes, but on the flight deck professionalism should be the key.
It's obvious that one or two men on this thread, the obvious characters,simply do not like womem flying. They are careful in what they say but their emphasis is on the negative aspects of the women they knew and flew with.
It's men like that who cause women to appear defensive and causes untold anguish.
I wonder how you manage to live in this world, where half the population is female. It must be tough for you.
You're pathetic.
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Thanks Pandora, excellent post. Kipling is hereby proved correct.
Just wanted to move the debate along from us paying for our ancestors' injustices as Southwest seems to be.
The problem as you've pointed out is the training out of the initial disadvantage. It is also illustrated in the report, it here on ACN a couple of weeks ago, about accidents versus gender.
If memory serves, men take risks and get caught pushing their luck whilst women screw up mostly with fairly basic handling type accidents but without taking the same chances. The worrying thing is that only a tiny fraction of the licence holders were women!
The solution would perhaps, rather controversially, be a flight deck crew of mixed gender. A woman to make sure no risks are taken and a man to do the flying.
Seriously though, it does go back to the interest and effort put in by the individual and by the training they receive regardless of gender.
It's the difference between drivers, pilots and artists.
And back to the even playing field from the other perspective. Must feel awfully hollow, getting a job to fill up the numbers rather than being the best applicant!
Just wanted to move the debate along from us paying for our ancestors' injustices as Southwest seems to be.
The problem as you've pointed out is the training out of the initial disadvantage. It is also illustrated in the report, it here on ACN a couple of weeks ago, about accidents versus gender.
If memory serves, men take risks and get caught pushing their luck whilst women screw up mostly with fairly basic handling type accidents but without taking the same chances. The worrying thing is that only a tiny fraction of the licence holders were women!
The solution would perhaps, rather controversially, be a flight deck crew of mixed gender. A woman to make sure no risks are taken and a man to do the flying.
Seriously though, it does go back to the interest and effort put in by the individual and by the training they receive regardless of gender.
It's the difference between drivers, pilots and artists.
And back to the even playing field from the other perspective. Must feel awfully hollow, getting a job to fill up the numbers rather than being the best applicant!
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Towerdog,
I think we will have to agree to differ on the whole subject of gender. A little common sense and the ability to read, understand and mentally digest an intelligent scientific debate would of course made you realise that the first sentence of you post is tosh. I was discussing the X and Y chromosomes, not hormones. I did not even mention hormones, as that is a subject that is too often misinterpreted by men, although I can give you a lesson on endocrinology next, having got the genetics and psychology out of the way.
As for pilots crashing aircraft and killing themselves and their pax, I could go on all day about the daft things men have done which result in bent metal and dead people.
Mr Moto,
I read the same article, but I can't remember where. One of the points that was brought up was that although with women the major problem was handling (as opposed to bad decision making, which was male pilots' major fault), the study was not conclusive enough to prove that women have worse handling skills than men. Due to the fact that women have only been flying jets for the airlines in any number recently, it was postulated that the relative inexperience of the women flight crew may have played a part in the accidents they were involved in. I believe one of the conclusions was that a comparison should be made of accidents caused by men and women of a similar experience level in order to establish whether the original conclusion was true.
Next I'll learn to spell...
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I think we will have to agree to differ on the whole subject of gender. A little common sense and the ability to read, understand and mentally digest an intelligent scientific debate would of course made you realise that the first sentence of you post is tosh. I was discussing the X and Y chromosomes, not hormones. I did not even mention hormones, as that is a subject that is too often misinterpreted by men, although I can give you a lesson on endocrinology next, having got the genetics and psychology out of the way.
As for pilots crashing aircraft and killing themselves and their pax, I could go on all day about the daft things men have done which result in bent metal and dead people.
Mr Moto,
I read the same article, but I can't remember where. One of the points that was brought up was that although with women the major problem was handling (as opposed to bad decision making, which was male pilots' major fault), the study was not conclusive enough to prove that women have worse handling skills than men. Due to the fact that women have only been flying jets for the airlines in any number recently, it was postulated that the relative inexperience of the women flight crew may have played a part in the accidents they were involved in. I believe one of the conclusions was that a comparison should be made of accidents caused by men and women of a similar experience level in order to establish whether the original conclusion was true.
Next I'll learn to spell...
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Tower Dog, I was not going to enter into this thread but you have forced me into it.
Your comment about "Ms. Female Eastern scab Value Jet Captain" is uncalled for and shows pure ignorance. I guess the two male AA pilots that flew into the mountains in Columbia really impressed you?
Why don't you read the accident report and listen to the CVR tape? There is doubt in my mind, or any other professional pilot that I have talked to, that the airplane was doomed. No honest pro-pilot really believes that if they were flying the airplane the results would be any different. She turned around as soon as she realized how serious the situation was and if you would read accident reports on similar accidents, she did it quicker than most. They even tried to divert to the closest runway, not go all the way back to MIA. Which wasn't that far by the way. No, you stuck your foot in your mouth on this one.
You can ask McD how I feel about female pilots. I've flown with them and I've hired them.
By the way, I am not PC, never have been never will be. I just give everybody a square shake (even chance).
Your comment about "Ms. Female Eastern scab Value Jet Captain" is uncalled for and shows pure ignorance. I guess the two male AA pilots that flew into the mountains in Columbia really impressed you?
Why don't you read the accident report and listen to the CVR tape? There is doubt in my mind, or any other professional pilot that I have talked to, that the airplane was doomed. No honest pro-pilot really believes that if they were flying the airplane the results would be any different. She turned around as soon as she realized how serious the situation was and if you would read accident reports on similar accidents, she did it quicker than most. They even tried to divert to the closest runway, not go all the way back to MIA. Which wasn't that far by the way. No, you stuck your foot in your mouth on this one.
You can ask McD how I feel about female pilots. I've flown with them and I've hired them.
By the way, I am not PC, never have been never will be. I just give everybody a square shake (even chance).
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Con Pilot:
Not really impressed with the 2 male pilots that met the mountain in Cali...Duh..
As for the Value-Jet crash: Not wanting to play Monday Morning quarterback, but uh, the first thing you do if faced with a cockpit or cabin fire/smoke situation: Put the oxygen mask on. If the plane was doomed or not, you don't know till the last minute and ya don't ignore the mask. Or do you Con Pilot?
If you still don't understand: Try to read a Check List, then call me back.
I don't think gender was involved in the decision to ignore the procedures and common sense, but if the captain was hired because of no quals: (Eastern scab, then VJ Pay for Training, then the female factor: Less hours and experience needed than any male, etc: Perhaps the whole mix was/is bad news?)
Pandora:
Yup, I screwed up as far as hormones and X/Y
chromosones.
(Not stupid, just drunken sailor)
Mea culpa.
Female pilots are as good or as bad as any males....Duh..
If SC or whoever does not understand, uh just read the postings over again and try not to move your lips: It is really simple:
I ain't bashing no girl pilots: They as a group are good, have less time and get better jobs than white males.
(It is called preferrential hiring or politically correct or Goverment Mandated and all that, fine, but uh I don't think they are better, or wiser or any worse: Just lucky to be the right sex in the flying business these days: Heck if ya were a Black Female Pilot, ya really had it made: Bullet proof, Fire Proof, etc..)
And again: I have worked with some fine gals:
One B-747 captain with Evergreen. She sure got the job because of heavy quals and hard work: My hat off.
Way to go Linda and others like you.
Those gals that got an easy ride, rich daddy and all that, and said they had to work twice as hard to be twice as good, hmm, I flew with some of ya, and was not very impressed....
Other gals however were great, just don't glorify because of gender.
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Not really impressed with the 2 male pilots that met the mountain in Cali...Duh..
As for the Value-Jet crash: Not wanting to play Monday Morning quarterback, but uh, the first thing you do if faced with a cockpit or cabin fire/smoke situation: Put the oxygen mask on. If the plane was doomed or not, you don't know till the last minute and ya don't ignore the mask. Or do you Con Pilot?
If you still don't understand: Try to read a Check List, then call me back.
I don't think gender was involved in the decision to ignore the procedures and common sense, but if the captain was hired because of no quals: (Eastern scab, then VJ Pay for Training, then the female factor: Less hours and experience needed than any male, etc: Perhaps the whole mix was/is bad news?)
Pandora:
Yup, I screwed up as far as hormones and X/Y
chromosones.
(Not stupid, just drunken sailor)
Mea culpa.
Female pilots are as good or as bad as any males....Duh..
If SC or whoever does not understand, uh just read the postings over again and try not to move your lips: It is really simple:
I ain't bashing no girl pilots: They as a group are good, have less time and get better jobs than white males.
(It is called preferrential hiring or politically correct or Goverment Mandated and all that, fine, but uh I don't think they are better, or wiser or any worse: Just lucky to be the right sex in the flying business these days: Heck if ya were a Black Female Pilot, ya really had it made: Bullet proof, Fire Proof, etc..)
And again: I have worked with some fine gals:
One B-747 captain with Evergreen. She sure got the job because of heavy quals and hard work: My hat off.
Way to go Linda and others like you.
Those gals that got an easy ride, rich daddy and all that, and said they had to work twice as hard to be twice as good, hmm, I flew with some of ya, and was not very impressed....
Other gals however were great, just don't glorify because of gender.
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Heard a case of PMT from a controller the other day.You could tell from her voice that things were getting to her , when some insensitive male pilot complained about her transmissions ,to which she snapped back "YOU ARE OVERHEAD THE TRANSMITTER AT THE MOMENT ,IT WILL IMPROOOOVE ! " How do you cope with this for 10 hours ?
I will say though that I have been impressed with most of the female pilots I have flown with ,and admire their determination.
Prehaps CRM should include sensitivity training.
I will say though that I have been impressed with most of the female pilots I have flown with ,and admire their determination.
Prehaps CRM should include sensitivity training.