Hotmail & Yahoo email addresses
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Hotmail & Yahoo email addresses
Not sure if it's a full moon today but some of the more ignorant and imbecile types have been posting on the PPRuNe Bulletin Board today. I have decided to stop any new registrations from Hotmail and Yahoo addresses for the next few days until I get back from a trip.
I know the majority of you with Hotmail or Yahoo addresses are not a problem but it is too easy for the loonies to generate a new address and then register a new username and start posting topics which are either nothing to do with our jobs or just plain abusive. I also know that there are many other sites that give out free email addresses but the two mentioned are by far the most commonly used ones and it just makes my life easier if I can cut down on access to the fruitcakes who wannabe part of our community until I can get back and devote more time to the running of this site.
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I know the majority of you with Hotmail or Yahoo addresses are not a problem but it is too easy for the loonies to generate a new address and then register a new username and start posting topics which are either nothing to do with our jobs or just plain abusive. I also know that there are many other sites that give out free email addresses but the two mentioned are by far the most commonly used ones and it just makes my life easier if I can cut down on access to the fruitcakes who wannabe part of our community until I can get back and devote more time to the running of this site.
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Well Danny if it's not a big logistical problem you should even request a copy of an airline id to register. This would bring about accountability as well and filter out any non pilots. Besides you can give them access to non pilot forums.
Cheers.
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Oops silly me! 
Almost forgot that the Aviation industry and PPRuNe is the sole domain of PILOTS and AIRLINES.
Don't forget to put your hat on when you go out in the sun old boy!
There may be plenty of prats influenced by the Full Moon and general stupidity, but I think a large volume of the forums in PPruNe would no longer exist if you were to restrict participation to Pilots with Airline ID!
Maybe we could start a low cost, no frills PPRuNe for the remainder of the aviation community, maybe PPRuNe-light?
Almost forgot that the Aviation industry and PPRuNe is the sole domain of PILOTS and AIRLINES.
Don't forget to put your hat on when you go out in the sun old boy!
There may be plenty of prats influenced by the Full Moon and general stupidity, but I think a large volume of the forums in PPruNe would no longer exist if you were to restrict participation to Pilots with Airline ID!
Maybe we could start a low cost, no frills PPRuNe for the remainder of the aviation community, maybe PPRuNe-light?
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Humongous logistical problem to try and ID everyone. Figure it out and come back with a solution if you can automate it otherwise i do have a life (not a lot) outside of my flying job and PPRuNe.
Also as mentioned above, PPRuNe may be called the Professional Pilots RUmour NEtwork but the job is much more than just our part in it. Without the contributions of the many different people with skills and jobs that make our working life what it is this site would be a backwater.
Please just be patient if you are trying to register a username and you use one of the above mentioned addresses. I will re-allow them when I get back next week and have the time to monitor what is going on.
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Also as mentioned above, PPRuNe may be called the Professional Pilots RUmour NEtwork but the job is much more than just our part in it. Without the contributions of the many different people with skills and jobs that make our working life what it is this site would be a backwater.
Please just be patient if you are trying to register a username and you use one of the above mentioned addresses. I will re-allow them when I get back next week and have the time to monitor what is going on.
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Dear Capt!
Glad that particularly viscious thread seems to have vanished without trace.
My suggestion: We can be anonymous to the readers of the thread but should be prepared to be well known and verifyable to you at Pprune.
This entails a certain trust on our part (you have mine) but would be fairly easy to organise - by letting you have more personal details which then don't appear in the profile.
What sort of people do you/we want on this forum? I think passengers' views are interesting. Let them be bona-fide passengers however. Let Wannabees be bona-fide Wannabees. Do we want all Forums (Forae?) to be accessible to all categories of member? If not - no problem, for we can automatically categorise members at sign-up.
Next problem - what do you do with the "experienced" members? Well we would all have to submit the same details as soon as a passable form can be completed. Any questionable cases would be filtered out at this stage.
You may have my credit card number, phone number or whatever you like. This in turn would require a "microsoft" type of agreement page on initial sign-up.
Trust is required on both sides.
PS. cynical remark for those who don't believe in trust - a membership fee separates the men from the boys too!
Glad that particularly viscious thread seems to have vanished without trace.
My suggestion: We can be anonymous to the readers of the thread but should be prepared to be well known and verifyable to you at Pprune.
This entails a certain trust on our part (you have mine) but would be fairly easy to organise - by letting you have more personal details which then don't appear in the profile.
What sort of people do you/we want on this forum? I think passengers' views are interesting. Let them be bona-fide passengers however. Let Wannabees be bona-fide Wannabees. Do we want all Forums (Forae?) to be accessible to all categories of member? If not - no problem, for we can automatically categorise members at sign-up.
Next problem - what do you do with the "experienced" members? Well we would all have to submit the same details as soon as a passable form can be completed. Any questionable cases would be filtered out at this stage.
You may have my credit card number, phone number or whatever you like. This in turn would require a "microsoft" type of agreement page on initial sign-up.
Trust is required on both sides.
PS. cynical remark for those who don't believe in trust - a membership fee separates the men from the boys too!
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Capt PPrune,
You have my vote of confidence. If you feel you need to take this action, so be it. You're the one with the most experience here.
Think of it as a CRM style excercise. You identified a prob, informed us of it, listen to our ideas and opinions, but in the end, the cockpit is not a "democracy". Majority rule can lead to disaster.
I'm behind you all the way.
You have my vote of confidence. If you feel you need to take this action, so be it. You're the one with the most experience here.
Think of it as a CRM style excercise. You identified a prob, informed us of it, listen to our ideas and opinions, but in the end, the cockpit is not a "democracy". Majority rule can lead to disaster.
I'm behind you all the way.
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Hmm. Well Its nice to know that with a Frozen ATPL CaptA320 thinks i'm a non-pilot because just because I don't have an airline ID - Yet. Ho Hum...
Still, I do approve of the removal of one or two more dubious elements and am happy to oblige with whatever measures are proposed. I moved to a hotmail address after finding that one or two dubious characters here prefer flaming to getting a job...or indeed giving credit or encouragement.
Hip HIP Huzar! for Capt PPrune!
Still, I do approve of the removal of one or two more dubious elements and am happy to oblige with whatever measures are proposed. I moved to a hotmail address after finding that one or two dubious characters here prefer flaming to getting a job...or indeed giving credit or encouragement.
Hip HIP Huzar! for Capt PPrune!
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This dodgy username business will never be a thing of the past. I was going to recommend employing a twofold/two-way ‘cookie’ system that I have heard of recently, but even that is easy to get past.
Simple measures such as a blatant notice asking double registries to back off or something similar should regulate the problem to an extent – don’t you think?
Simple measures such as a blatant notice asking double registries to back off or something similar should regulate the problem to an extent – don’t you think?
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Dear Capt (or dare I call you Danny after a ton of posts). No problem from my side. Thing is, how do I (or anyone else for that matter) prove my airline credentials. I could fax you a copy of my ID card, but lets face it, do you want 13K fax copies on your machine?
Any better ideas out there?
rgds Rat
Any better ideas out there?
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I think that the vast majority of the 13,000 members are nice, civilised types - whether they are commanding B747s, C150s or just reading Flight International. It's the few nutters that seem to enjoy putting the boot in - for whatever personal reason - that need to have a code of conduct applied to them.
Now, in some cases, this is well merited as witnessed by our Wizard fom Oz - but in order to safeguard Danny and the boys, I think that anyone that wishes to post any 'beware' notices *must* also provide, publicly, their real identity and contact details. No details - the posting gets deleted.
It's a fine balancing act for the moderators to tread in identifying something that is malicious and libellous - and something which is of genuine, relevant interest to the readers. So far, I feel they havd done a great job!
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Now, in some cases, this is well merited as witnessed by our Wizard fom Oz - but in order to safeguard Danny and the boys, I think that anyone that wishes to post any 'beware' notices *must* also provide, publicly, their real identity and contact details. No details - the posting gets deleted.
It's a fine balancing act for the moderators to tread in identifying something that is malicious and libellous - and something which is of genuine, relevant interest to the readers. So far, I feel they havd done a great job!
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Guvnor
I may have misunderstood you but many of us have no choice but to rely on our anonymity in order to submit any posts.
I am a serving officer and as such would feel the wrath of a number of HM's policemen breathing down my neck if they knew my identity. Maybe not, but my boss could take exception to views I might express on the forums.
Certainly a balance needs to be struck, quite how that might be achieved I don't know.
Anyway, here's one who's staying firmly in the closet.
I may have misunderstood you but many of us have no choice but to rely on our anonymity in order to submit any posts.
I am a serving officer and as such would feel the wrath of a number of HM's policemen breathing down my neck if they knew my identity. Maybe not, but my boss could take exception to views I might express on the forums.
Certainly a balance needs to be struck, quite how that might be achieved I don't know.
Anyway, here's one who's staying firmly in the closet.
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Capt Tercrue, what I meant was that everyone continues to have absolute anonymity - should they so desire - UNLESS they launch a personal attack on someone else. Therefore, if you were to label Sqdn Ldr Bigglesworth as 'a danger to all around him and someone that bought his commission through dubious sexual practices involving an Air Commodore and a sheep' you would need to post your details, which would have to be verifiable, or your posting would be removed forthwith.
In reality, it's no more than is required if you wish to submit a similar letter to your local paper; or place a political ad.
I know that Danny and the other moderators are extremely concerned about the issue of potential lawsuits arising from malicious and/or libellous postings here - so this is to assist in protecting them as much as anything else.
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In reality, it's no more than is required if you wish to submit a similar letter to your local paper; or place a political ad.
I know that Danny and the other moderators are extremely concerned about the issue of potential lawsuits arising from malicious and/or libellous postings here - so this is to assist in protecting them as much as anything else.
Comments?
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Hmmmmm......I see A320, I must not be worthy
Well, I don't have an answer to this problem,but I'll sure add my 2 cents worth!
Danny, quick stupid female question; But can you not 'block' users as you would an e-mail address? And if the individual/s continue to misbehave, then 'block' them permanantly. Ok, I realise that the idiot could sign up again under a different alias, but if it's only say, 100 out of 13000 registered users doing this crap, then surely that wouldn't be too hard to keep a track of? I dunno...just a suggestion.
BTW, could we do something about activating the 'password' field on 'chat'? You reckon you've got problems with loonies on the forums
My suggestion to this would be to have anyone interested in participating on chat, to e-mail you and get approval for a password (ok, so now I'm pushing my luck!) May I also suggest that you ban the likes of Julien and 111 Big nuff nuff's (they only make us swear anyway)
After all is said and done, I will continue to visit pprune no matter what dork is causing trouble, so long as there is a pprune to continue visiting. I think that that is the issue here, so pull your heads in and enjoy what others have to offer on the value of what this forum promises:
Rumours and News within the Global Aviation industry.
Thanks to Danny and The Kelly Gang
GG
Well, I don't have an answer to this problem,but I'll sure add my 2 cents worth!
Danny, quick stupid female question; But can you not 'block' users as you would an e-mail address? And if the individual/s continue to misbehave, then 'block' them permanantly. Ok, I realise that the idiot could sign up again under a different alias, but if it's only say, 100 out of 13000 registered users doing this crap, then surely that wouldn't be too hard to keep a track of? I dunno...just a suggestion.
BTW, could we do something about activating the 'password' field on 'chat'? You reckon you've got problems with loonies on the forums
My suggestion to this would be to have anyone interested in participating on chat, to e-mail you and get approval for a password
(ok, so now I'm pushing my luck!) May I also suggest that you ban the likes of Julien and 111 Big nuff nuff's (they only make us swear anyway)After all is said and done, I will continue to visit pprune no matter what dork is causing trouble, so long as there is a pprune to continue visiting. I think that that is the issue here, so pull your heads in and enjoy what others have to offer on the value of what this forum promises:
Rumours and News within the Global Aviation industry.
Thanks to Danny and The Kelly Gang
GG