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Old 11th Oct 2007, 10:49
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The Air Universal at Tehran should be
9L-LDC c/n 1231 with -22 engines
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1040254/L/
and EP-LDE c/n 1244 the former 9L-LDE with -524 engines
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0650567/L/
Sorry cant trace a photo as EP-LDE
Hope it helps
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My source in Amman says that N194AT has moved from QAIA
The Skygate -250 aircraft there is JY-SGI s/n 1234
The Globe jet 500 is OD-CVD ( But no trace of it on the Lebanese Register web site!) It is Ex Air Transat either s/n 1236 or 1242

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It would be interesting to know where you have found an EMRO to do the axial mod on the 22B Dont think any have been done yet.
But then after the Haj maybe you are not worried !!
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It would be interesting to know where you have found an EMRO to do the axial mod on the 22B Dont think any have been done yet.
But then after the Haj maybe you are not worried !!
Quite the contrary, after the Hajj, it is important, as the aeroplane will be used in scheduled service, the only one worldwide, so I believe.
The TriStar was chosen because of several factors...low cost of acquisition, large cabin volume (especially business class) and belly cargo volume.
If the project proves successful (and as it's being headed by the original ex-Laker number two, I would fully expect that it will be) a newer aircraft will be substituted at some point...maybe.
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Has anyone considered operating the -200F STC conversions in a combi fit? Pallets at the front SLF in the rear.
Just curious.
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The Globe jet 500 is OD-CVD ( But no trace of it on the Lebanese Register web site!) It is Ex Air Transat either s/n 1236 or 1242
c/n 1236 would be ex SX-CVD previously stored at Abu Dhabi (?) or
c/n 1242 would be ex YK-DLC previously stored at Al-Fujairah.
Hope it helps
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Ahhhh 124.2 Preston Radar. Half a life time ago perhaps
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Old 13th Oct 2007, 05:50
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Marshall's looked at combi when they were doing the Kallita/Arrow conversions.

The current FAA and EU regulations for mixing pax and freight make it non economic.
Just one requirement ( of many) is that you have to have all round acecss to each pallet for fire fighting so that dramically reduces the payload.
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Sounds as though you are serious!
Will the schedules be in EU ?
Where did you say you were getting the axial motion AD accomplished on the 22B ?
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Every year around this time you will hear of new start-up airlines obtaining the cheapest heaps of junk available, they will get these into flying condition and then chase Hajj contracts. Then the fun begins, if the aircraft keeps flying they may make enough money to survive the 3 month period and pay their crews, if not, then the crews will get dumped somewhere.
I posted this on page 1.... Judging by the comments posted by 2bad2bsad... it looks like it has happened again..../

I hope that the delivery crew of N194AT got paid before departure

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I believe "Earl" was one of the crew! Hopefully he got some payment!
The owner of the aircraft is "MUH" (m.mughrabi)(see my post on Freight Dogs)

This isn't the first time this guy has pulled this!

He made one post to which I sent below message then he disappeared!

Hi Muh (m.mughrabi)
Aren't you the new operator of the L1011 just ferried?
Didn't you used to fly with Star Air?
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A round up - ammendments appreciated

As far as I can work out currently active and flying
are TT-DWE c/n 1093 TT-DAE c/n 1101 from Tchad to wherever they can
find loads.
9G-BSM c/n 1221 possibly for this years Hadj flights is in passenger
configuration.
LUZAIR CS-TMX c/n 1206 CS-TMP c/n 1248 CS-TEB c/n 1240 all operational
from Lisbon but also sub chartering for European Holiday Flight
companies (Flyjet and Monarch recently) Plus CS-TMR was stored
Amsterdam for 3 years is now on deep maintenance at Victorville for
return to service c/n 1241.
GLOBEJET (Future uncertain may be in financial trouble) OD-MIR c/n 1246 OD-JOE c/n 1243 and OD-ZEE c/n 1239. Did a
lot of flights Gerona and Faro from Warsaw June July August 07 plus OD-HEO c/n 1103 stored. Plus newcomer OD-CVD ( But no trace of it on the Lebanese Register web site!) It is a former Air Transat -500 either s/n 1236
or 1242
c/n 1236 would be ex SX-CVD previously stored at Abu Dhabi (?) or
c/n 1242 would be ex YK-DLC previously stored at Al-Fujairah.
A new operator Bourtequilah Air? just ferried N194AT c/n 1230 from
Miami to Amman via Lisbon for Hadj operations. Now back at AMM minus crew.
At Tehran should be Air Universal
9L-LDC c/n 1231 with -22 engines
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1040254/L/
and EP-LDE c/n 1244 the former 9L-LDE with -524 engines
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0650567/L/
Sorry cant trace a photo as EP-LDE
Not sure how active these two are at the moment.
ATA Airlines They appear to have 3 still in service
N161AT c/n 1219 recently withdrawn and subsequently destroyed by fire.
N162AT c/n 1220
N163AT c/n 1229
N164AT c/n 1238 at least one of theirs N162AT c/n 1220 flew as
AMTRAN8900 across the pond on a reach flight Gander-Budapest
Plus the grandest news of all PH-RST is reserved for c/n 1189 for
World International Airways.
PH-RST is under Interstate`s AOC. www.interstateairlines.com The acft should be delivered fairly soon. I understand 2 more will join but I
have no idea where from. Rumour also an additional L1011 Freighter may
join next year. The passenger L1011 are planned for a route USA -
Europe - India v.v
Further news on this would be much appreciated.
Any news or sightings much appreciated. Especially helpful would be
accurate and up to date details of which aircraft are stored at
Al-Fujairah, or Ras Al Khaimah. Check Ras al Khaymah on
Google Earth at 55° 56' 20" E,25° 36' 49" N . These Tristars were
reportedly based/stored Ras al Khaymah 1093, 1101,1201,1212, 1237 and
1245 in July 07 confirmation would be very helpful.
Hope it helps
Be lucky
David
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Any news about Globejet's situation?

OD-ZEE impounded @ VVI

OD-MIR ?
OD-JOE ?

Thanks in advance!
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Is there any particular reason why companies and Gentlemen of a certain reputation, seems to have a penchant for the Tristar?
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Globejet has folded.

Some rumour that a few aircraft may be sold but I should think they will be parked for a while while things get sorted out.

Lots of bills outstanding so I think that will complicate any sale.
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Shame about GlobeJet, but I'm not totally surprised.
The CEO was approached some time ago by our group about leasing one of their airplanes, initially for 80 hours/month, with a large potential for this to grow to 160-180 hours in a short time.
We were turned down, as this apparently was not enough utilization for GlobeJet.
Their loss, our gain, as it turned out.
We found a better deal elsewhere.
In my considered opinion, GlobeJet was rather foolish, as the -500 airplane would have been ideal for planned South American and Caribbean services...already proposed.
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The Z Airlines referred to earlier/above in the old Brit Caledonian colours is just one other of the many of Duane Egli guises, based Ras Al Khaimah but more recently possibly seen standing Ndjamena with a Chadian registration.
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According sources close to Interstate Airlines, cn 1189 should be ready for delivery towards the end of November. The aircraft will be used to operate for third parties on an ACMI-basis. The same way they operate their ATR-42 PH-ISA. The airline is based at Maastricht (EHBK/MST) in the southern part of the Netherlands but their aircraft appear only sporadically for maintenance and short time storage, in between ACMI-contracts.

Registration PH-RST revers to the owner of Interstate Airlines, Mr. Roberto Stinga, founder of Air Exel, KLM Exel, V-Bird etc....

cn 1189 is reported to be the first of 8 L1011's, owned by a consortium of mainly Scandinavian investors who are convinced there is a niche market for the L1011. Interstate Airlines holds an AOC and will operate these aircraft for this consortium. All aircraft are reportedly stored in the Californian deserts and will be pulled out, one by one, for maintenance in Amman and brought into service as requirements demand. According to my source, Interstate Airlines are having a hard time finding crews for the TriStars....
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Quote AAL
The Z Airlines referred to earlier/above in the old Brit Caledonian colours is just one other of the many of Duane Egli guises, based Ras Al Khaimah but more recently possibly seen standing Ndjamena with a Chadian registration.
Is this an additional Tchadian registered Tristar or one of these two Egli aircraft already registered in Tchad? Both are former Caledonian and still wear their colours minus titles of course. Paper owner/operator is AMW Tchad ( Aircraft Machinery Works).
TT-DWE c/n 1093 TT-DAE c/n 1101 .
Just seeking clarification.
Be lucky
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 17:10
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Lol thx for the tip but I wasn't planning on spotting over there but on locations in Europe where they come to pick up the muslim's
And ofcaurse on regular locations like this summer with OD-MIR @ EPWA. I'dd like to know stuff like that before it happens
Earl:
OD- MIR did a short term ACMI contract in Poland, this past summer.
OD-ZEE is still in VVI, but its the LAB Bolivian company that owes Globejet 4 million USD.
OD-JOE and OD MIR will start operating for a company out of Tripoli soon for Haj.
The Bolivians tried to claim money for fuel, catering etc from Globejet and placed a hold on the aircraft after they could not collect from LAB.
We stopped flying on March 25 2007 because of non payment from LAB.
I don't know what part of ACMI that they dont understand.
The rumor is true Globejet is finished, this was not good news for any of us.
Lots of things going on in Thailand now with the Tristar.
2 freighters are said to fly soon and its rumored that the old Thaisky passenger Tristars are being looked at.
The shortage of wide body aircraft both passenger and freight worldwide is causing a second look at these old birds.
I think we will see quite a few of them back in the air soon.
If we don't some people sure are waisting a lot of money installing EGPWS,upgrading to make them RNAV capable etc. and pulling them out the desert and other places.
One of the biggest problems now is that there is no initial ground school for this aircraft left anywhere in the world.
Crews will be difficult to find as most have gone to the 747 or either retired.
411A: Globejet may have turned you down several weeks ago due to a 2 year contract they had flying for the UN, they needed a backup aircraft and the one stuck in VVI left them a bit short.
After the CAA Lebanese problems they had to back out of this UN contract also.

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One of the biggest problems now is that there is no initial ground school for this aircraft left anywhere in the world.

We still have the facilities, you could always come back

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We still have the facilities, you could always come back
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Earl:
Last I was in that Tristar simulator in Jeddah 18 months ago it needed a lot of work.
But it would make sense to get it back on line as the only operating sim is in the UK now.
I do hear rumors that the Delta sim is in operation from time to time but no initial ground school.

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