787 DreamLiner
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You may have noticed this:
"Another interesting excerpt from the Boeing press release states the following:
Finally, the team pushed the composite section past ultimate load well beyond ultimate load to a destruct-condition maneuver beyond two and a half times the force of gravity."
My emphasis.
Not an entire fuselage, and even less an entire aircraft, wings and all.
Oh well, it makes good publicity and spin for those who don't understand all of that hi'falutin' stuff.
"Another interesting excerpt from the Boeing press release states the following:
Finally, the team pushed the composite section past ultimate load well beyond ultimate load to a destruct-condition maneuver beyond two and a half times the force of gravity."
My emphasis.
Not an entire fuselage, and even less an entire aircraft, wings and all.
Oh well, it makes good publicity and spin for those who don't understand all of that hi'falutin' stuff.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=a1djXe7nPcxY
Boeing Completes 50-Percent Design Release for the 747-8 Freighter
EVERETT, Wash., March 6 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The Boeing Company (NYSE: BA) has completed 50 percent of the design releases for the new 747-8 Freighter. The program has released the 747-8 Freighter's detailed designs to Boeing factories and its suppliers in order to begin building parts, assemblies and tools for the new cargo airplane.
"This design milestone is a tribute to efforts of the 747-8 team, our customers and suppliers," said Ross R. Bogue, vice president and Boeing Completes 50-Percent Design Release for the 747-8 Freighter general manager, 747 program and Everett site. "We are now focused on completing the remaining design work and delivering a 747-8 Freighter that increases the 747 family's leadership in the growing cargo market."
EVERETT, Wash., March 6 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The Boeing Company (NYSE: BA) has completed 50 percent of the design releases for the new 747-8 Freighter. The program has released the 747-8 Freighter's detailed designs to Boeing factories and its suppliers in order to begin building parts, assemblies and tools for the new cargo airplane.
"This design milestone is a tribute to efforts of the 747-8 team, our customers and suppliers," said Ross R. Bogue, vice president and Boeing Completes 50-Percent Design Release for the 747-8 Freighter general manager, 747 program and Everett site. "We are now focused on completing the remaining design work and delivering a 747-8 Freighter that increases the 747 family's leadership in the growing cargo market."
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Maybe only 30 deliveries for 2009.
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According to flightblogger, more delays.
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/
I think this will be an expensive issue for Boeing.
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/
I think this will be an expensive issue for Boeing.
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From: Toulouse area, France
787 problems
If "Mr. ILFC" is rightly reported as having remarked that the 787's centre wing box needs modification (and he's not usually all that "hazy" about what goes on) it could be that the gent who reckoned this will be a 7 billion-dollar "hit" on Boeing could be in the right ball-park ...
Boeing's next updates should be very interesting ...
No chance of one at Farnborough in any case, but perhaps Airbus will be gentle and not fly several A380s, plus the"KC-45A" refuelling Typhoons while the A400M buzzes merrily around with big loads aboard ...
Boeing's next updates should be very interesting ...
No chance of one at Farnborough in any case, but perhaps Airbus will be gentle and not fly several A380s, plus the"KC-45A" refuelling Typhoons while the A400M buzzes merrily around with big loads aboard ...
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A delay may just be a mixed blessing for Boeing.
If the reports quoting Hazy prove to be true, then compensation from Boeing may not just be financial payments - I would expect them to fully start discounting the 777 to make up for customers shortfall in capacity.
Further 777 sales will also likely thwart potential A350 sales with earlier availability, even though near term slots will be limited.
If the reports quoting Hazy prove to be true, then compensation from Boeing may not just be financial payments - I would expect them to fully start discounting the 777 to make up for customers shortfall in capacity.
Further 777 sales will also likely thwart potential A350 sales with earlier availability, even though near term slots will be limited.
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Short interview with analyst Howard Wheeldon on Airbus, Boeing...
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Exclusive 777 Freighter images right here.
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787 media briefing due possibly as early as April 8th.
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15 month Delay
BBC News reporting that the Dreamliner will be delayed by 15mths.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7338807.stm
Boeing has announced another major delay to delivery of its new 787 Dreamliner aircraft.
The plane is now about 15 months behind its original schedule. The first flight will be in the fourth quarter of 2008.
The target for delivery of the first plane to Japan's All Nippon Airways is now the third quarter of 2009. The previous target was early 2009.
Boeing has blamed slow progress on assembly and continuing problems with suppliers for the delays.
A BBC news "Expert" is predicting compensation payments of upto $2.5bn due to those who have ordered the aircraft.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7338807.stm
Boeing has announced another major delay to delivery of its new 787 Dreamliner aircraft.
The plane is now about 15 months behind its original schedule. The first flight will be in the fourth quarter of 2008.
The target for delivery of the first plane to Japan's All Nippon Airways is now the third quarter of 2009. The previous target was early 2009.
Boeing has blamed slow progress on assembly and continuing problems with suppliers for the delays.
A BBC news "Expert" is predicting compensation payments of upto $2.5bn due to those who have ordered the aircraft.
Last edited by drichard; 9th April 2008 at 13:14. Reason: Update
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A wingtip vortex destroys the lift that the wing could be producing so instead wingtips displace the vortex to a part of the wing that isn't creating lift, a blended wingtip or wingtip fence. This reduces lift induced drag, and I believe some of the blended ones throw the votex backwards creating a bit more thrust. (don't quote me on that last one though 
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