787 DreamLiner

[cambruzzo]

787 delivery delays announced

ABC News Au is reporting delivery delay announcements by Boeing

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin

[stillalbatross]

Dow took a huge hit today with Boeing saying late 2008 and rumours saying at least a year or two after that. And there's still a huge number of issues that could push the delays even further, hence what appears to be, at 2.8%, a large drop in Boeing shares.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...10markets.aspx

Maybe some in the market know something we don't.

[B767PL]

Just the beginning of it I think.

[electricjetjock]

Where are the Airbus and A380 detractors now? Did none of them wonder why Boeing were not crowing over the problems Airbus were having?

[aviate1138]

I can see it now - a roll of giant Duct tape bumps around 4 points along the fuselage........
and a mass of G-cramps around the inside at each join.
Be interesting to see if some of the Boeing Engineers flagged this fastener problem up ages ago and were overridden?
Another Management/Engineering saga no doubt.

[LoadMan]

Originally Posted by ChristiaanJJ

Just as well I didn't take any bets....

Already "six" months late for the first flight (eight, rather). Now announced for April 2008, so let's say mid to late June 2008.
First deliveries August 2009? Any takers?

"Always add one-third"

I actually thought Boeing would get the December date, as I expected them to be conservative. Now, I think they really are conservative. So, I believe the date for first flight, well, it is put with some flexibility. I know another aircraft that was scheduled to fly in first quarter 200x.

[ChristiaanJ]

OK, I read that.

Delivery 1st QT 2009 if they get their act together.

"Always add one-third"

[stillalbatross]

I actually thought Boeing would get the December date, as I expected them to be conservative. Now, I think they really are conservative. So, I believe the date for first flight, well, it is put with some flexibility. I know another aircraft that was scheduled to fly in first quarter 200x

On the contrary, I think they are being far from conservative. How is rolling out an aircraft held together with sellotape and bluetack being conservative? They have been far too bold in their claims and no doubt engineering is being given an impossible task by marketing and management. The first aircraft will be delivered late with a multitude of problems as boeing attempts to stay on time with the models release.

[The Real Slim Shady]

I have a rather natty Powerpoint presentation on the beast and it really does look quite magnificent. Hardly black tape etc

[Gulf4uk]

Dreamliner at SBAC

If the first flight takes place in April does that leave enough time to get it
Ready For SBAC Farnborough Show july 2008 pretty sure they would
not want to miss out on showing it with a Probable in Service A380 making
its Second appearance anyone have any thoughts on this ?

Tony
farnborough aviation group (spotters )

[ZFT]

I ‘understand’ that the fasteners are a very convenient excuse to disguise far more critical issues with (amongst others)the CIS/MS

Problems further compounded by the B787 being the 1st commercial aircraft build being governed by the E.A.R (Export Administration Regulations)

[Rainboe]

CIS/MS?......Coordination ion-spray mass spectrometry? Developmental Math and Computer Information Systems? Whatever it is it sounds horrible!

[BOEING777X]

Boeing 787 Update Including 787-10 Details

For those who didnt listen in to the media briefing, a summary of the event can be found here.



787-10 here.

http://fleetbuzz.wordpress.com/2007/12/13/10-der/

[BOEING777X]

Does anyone else agree that the 109 787 delivery target by the end of 2009 remains too ambitious?

[Zoner]

http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...schedule_N.htm

[BOEING777X]

While delays may have been subsided somewhat, it is the 109 target that now has investors at the edge of their seats.

[BOEING777X]

http://www.sharewatch.com/story.php?storynumber=129553

NEW YORK (Thomson Financial) - Boeing Co. Wednesday was downgraded to equal-weight from overweight at Morgan Stanley, which said concerns over delays in the production schedule of the 787 could keep the stock range bound over the near term.

The brokerage also suspended its $140 price target.

"We have a new level of concern the 787 risks are likely to linger over the stock and not be retired as we had earlier believed," the firm said in a note to clients.

"In our view should Boeing achieve milestones like Power On in January and first flight in March, concerns will only shift to the next hurdle, keeping the shares range bound." The risk rises as the company's goals get harder, Morgan Stanley added, from first flight in the first quarter of 2008 to the delivery of 109 787s by 2009.

"We don't believe this goal is achievable," the firm said.

[BOEING777X]

787-10 possibilities...

[BOEING777X]

Dreamliner breaks yet another sales record on completion of the BA deal.

[SEA-MD11]

B787 information 101

Hi guys,
Thought I would share this link :

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/boeing/787/787primer.asp

Happy new year all