windy conditions
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windy conditions
thanks very much for the explanation of the "dodgy landing" CosmosScwartz. as a passenger i find i am learning a lot through this forum and it does help when i am flying to know all these things as it makes for a more relaxed flight especially to windy gran canaria.
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Bluebird,
I concur with CShwartz, I have taken many pics of Dash 8s, amongst others, landing on one wheel. I chose the one above because it was probably the most extreme.
in this one the aircraft is on one set of main gear and nosewheel with the other main still airborne!
Incidentally, I used to fly gliders and have flown backwards in a Prefect on more than one occasion
I concur with CShwartz, I have taken many pics of Dash 8s, amongst others, landing on one wheel. I chose the one above because it was probably the most extreme.
in this one the aircraft is on one set of main gear and nosewheel with the other main still airborne!
Incidentally, I used to fly gliders and have flown backwards in a Prefect on more than one occasion
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well wub.. what can i say.. these photographs are amazing. i just never realised that planes could land like that. i always assumed that they landed nose wheel first then the other ones. a bit naive of me but like i sure am learning fast..thanks
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Landed at Manch many years ago. B747-400 wet runway, sleet and snow, just about on the xwind limits....Pilot slams it down, [carrier landing ] all the pax applaud, including the ex. Me, I just said "hey, that was an interesting landing, wasn't it?" In the Terminal, the queue for the "Ladies" was incredible.
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] all the pax applaud, including the ex. Me, I just said "hey, that was an interesting landing, wasn't it?" In the Terminal, the queue for the "Ladies" was incredible.watp,iktch
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Many moons ago when you could fly a Shorts 330 from Glasgow to Humberside via Teeside, we waited at GLA for a couple of hours due to high winds and then took off. It was still very windy and although it was dark I am sure the aircraft wasn't travelling much more than a running pace when we lifted off.We then made the fastest ever journey from GLA to Teeside that the pilot had ever experienced in a Shorts.
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well wub.. what can i say.. these photographs are amazing. i just never realised that planes could land like that. i always assumed that they landed nose wheel first then the other ones. a bit naive of me but like i sure am learning fast..thanks
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Personaly prefer the crab landing technique, especialy with low slung engines the wing down method can put the down wing engine V close to the tarmac! Mind in the winter you get a crickneck looking over your shoulder at the runway everyday.
Crab means both main gear touch at the same instance even on a x-wind landing. Hope I dont put the nose down first...a recipe for disaster!
And for Turin....Ive done the Hanglider trick too, not fun! That was how I got into this lark in the first place, no time these days
Crab means both main gear touch at the same instance even on a x-wind landing. Hope I dont put the nose down first...a recipe for disaster!
And for Turin....Ive done the Hanglider trick too, not fun! That was how I got into this lark in the first place, no time these days
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I take it the 373 was the B737?
The limits depend on the runway condition, and if you are takeing off or landing.
On the B737-800NG we use,
In Dry Good conditions with a runway coeficient of 0.41 or better we have a Max limit of 35kts for both Takeoff and Landing. The limits decrease as the runway conditions deteriorate down to 8kts for Takeoff and 9kts for Landing when the runway condition is Medium/Poor and the coeficient is 0.26.
If the runway is classed as poor with a coeficent of less than 0.26 then Takeoff and Landing is prohibited.
The limits vary all the way down the scale.
Hope this helps......Over to the the Airbus guys.......
The limits depend on the runway condition, and if you are takeing off or landing.
On the B737-800NG we use,
In Dry Good conditions with a runway coeficient of 0.41 or better we have a Max limit of 35kts for both Takeoff and Landing. The limits decrease as the runway conditions deteriorate down to 8kts for Takeoff and 9kts for Landing when the runway condition is Medium/Poor and the coeficient is 0.26.
If the runway is classed as poor with a coeficent of less than 0.26 then Takeoff and Landing is prohibited.
The limits vary all the way down the scale.
Hope this helps......Over to the the Airbus guys.......
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Crooswinds
On my fleet (756) our airline only publishes a manufacturers max
demonstrated crosswind of 30kts, not placing an actual limit.
Some of us would go over this 30kts in line flying as it is not a limit but of course you are sticking your neck out.
Anyone else work for someone that does not publish xwind limits
and what are your policys in their absence?
While discussing crosswinds anyone know why, when you go to page two of the take-off page in the fmc and enter wind speed and direction to calculate HW/TW, it deletes the take off speeds?
demonstrated crosswind of 30kts, not placing an actual limit.
Some of us would go over this 30kts in line flying as it is not a limit but of course you are sticking your neck out.
Anyone else work for someone that does not publish xwind limits
and what are your policys in their absence?
While discussing crosswinds anyone know why, when you go to page two of the take-off page in the fmc and enter wind speed and direction to calculate HW/TW, it deletes the take off speeds?
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Hi guys,
You can view the video of the approach and subsequent go around that the A321, in a slideshow further up the page, made.
Here's the link :
A321 approach and go around, courtsey of flightlevel350.com
It's about the 6th one down. Couldn't link to it directly, but there are some fantastic videos on that page. In fact, that whole site is a fantastic resource!
Cheers!
Paul.
PS...The video description says "Scary landing". It is, in fact, a go around
You can view the video of the approach and subsequent go around that the A321, in a slideshow further up the page, made.
Here's the link :
A321 approach and go around, courtsey of flightlevel350.com
It's about the 6th one down. Couldn't link to it directly, but there are some fantastic videos on that page. In fact, that whole site is a fantastic resource!
Cheers!
Paul.
PS...The video description says "Scary landing". It is, in fact, a go around