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MostlyHarmless 21st June 2025 13:51

Given how quickly they rebuild Pad A and the associated GSE, don't think this'll be a huge blocker for them. Wonder if they'll go back to doing static fires on the old test stands....

MostlyHarmless 28th June 2025 17:33

Felix claiming a source inside says the wrong COPV was installed and it might not have been rated for full pressure...


ORAC 6th July 2025 11:47

VideoPossible recreation of the events that let to ship 36 anomaly. Great to see signs of investigating the failures.



​​​​​​​The @NASASpaceflight McGregor Live cameras noticed an "observation" today, as what looked like part of a tank was launched into the air leaving behind a large cloud of gas.

As with most of these tests we do not know if this was intentional test or not.



A few seconds later, it was spotted falling back to the ground nearby.

ORAC 15th July 2025 14:33

Elon: Launching again in ~3 weeks.

ORAC 20th July 2025 14:45

Gives a good impression of the size and mass of the disconnects which seem so small during a launch....

The CH4 QD for fueling super heavy boosters has been installed on pad 2 today. 7/19/25

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ORAC 26th July 2025 20:53

26th July.

Starship 38 is moving to Massey's test site tonight for initial cryogenic proof testing and Starship 37 is moving to the launch complex tomorrow night for static fire testing.


ORAC 31st July 2025 10:13

Test aborted and ship defuelled - hopefully they;ll have another try today.

Second last V2 Starship. Ship 38 is the final Block 2 Starship prototype, slated for potential Flight 11 with Booster 15.

It shares Ship 37's upgrades like engine insulation, preloaded joints, nitrogen purge, and enhanced propellant drain. Currently at Masseys for cryogenic proof testing after ambient pressure success on July 27; may skip flight if Flight 10 succeeds, focusing data on reentry and heat shields for Block 3 transition.

Starship 37 on the pad 1 launch mount yesterday morning. Boca Chica beach and Highway 4 closed for Starship 37 testing..


ORAC 31st July 2025 10:30

First V3 Starship - Ship 39.

A forward flap has been installed on Starship 39's nose cone. This is the first flap installed on a next generation version 3 ship and is expected to launch for the first time as soon as late this year from the new Starbase pad 2.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....293e1cd08b.png


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ORAC 1st August 2025 09:44

Tracking to launch Starship mid August.

cavuman1 1st August 2025 16:10

Beautiful launch of Crew 11 seventeen minutes ago! Great camera angles and commentators who know their stuff! Excellent view of Falcon 9 RTLS - touchdown in the center of the landing pad! It is rather mind-numbing to think the the Brothers Wright first took to the air in powered flight a mere 122 years ago!

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c182f9aa09.jpg


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- Ed

ORAC 1st August 2025 20:37

Starship 38 returned to megabay 2 overnight after completing cryogenic proof testing at Massey's test site and today the Starlink satellite loader moved into megabay 2 near Starship 38 likely for Starlink loader testing.

ORAC 1st August 2025 22:42

Ship 37 fires up in what should be the final SF ahead of Flight 10.

They will need to dismantle the mods to Pad 1 to allow the static fire before they can then full-stack B16 and S37 for launch.

VideoMulti angle replay of Starship S37's 6 engine ~10 second static fire test on the Pad 1 OLM from @NASASpaceflight camera angles.

Based on past tests, we expect S37 to next be removed and returned to MB2, while the Pad is prepared for flight configuration.

ORAC 3rd August 2025 22:39

The Starship static fire adapter has been removed from the pad 1 launch mount this afternoon clearing the way for test flight 10.

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cavuman1 4th August 2025 00:18

Dear ORAC, we who are "Spacenuts" are in your debt for keeping us up-to-date about the goings-on at SpaceX. Please accept our genuine thanks!

With Gratitude,

- Ed et al :D

51bravo 4th August 2025 08:37

Right! I could find out for myself via different channels. But I know I can rely on ORAC to pop up something if it is important and me just have to check this thread here, since I am at PPRuNe regularly anyway.
:D ORAC

...51B

B Fraser 4th August 2025 14:27

Do we have a date yet for the next "excitement guaranteed" event ?

ORAC 4th August 2025 17:55

See post 1129 - https://www.pprune.org/11931772-post1129.html

Mid August.

I'd expect the booster rollout some time next week for a static fire before mounting the Starship.

ORAC 5th August 2025 05:58

Video Huh...well the modified Ring Wall Stand is headed back out to the launch site. Either this is for additional SF testing with S37, or maybe they changed their mind and decided to leave it out there for S38……

​​​​​​​NSF reported that they are removing hold down clamps again 🤔



ORAC 5th August 2025 06:00

The FAA has released the Draft Environmental Assessment for Starship Super Heavy launches for Launch Complex 39A. Lots of pages and lots of documents in the project web page.

https://www.faa.gov/space/stakeholde...x_starship_ksc

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ORAC 5th August 2025 08:26

The FAA has released the Draft Environmental Assessment for Starship Super Heavy launches for Launch Complex 39A. Lots of pages and lots of documents in the project web page.

https://www.faa.gov/space/stakeholde...x_starship_ksc

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ORAC 5th August 2025 12:28

So, expect Ship 37 to be rolled back out for another static fire once fitted.

Not sure if the extra time to do the test, remove the test ring again, reinstalled the clamps and then roll out and do a booster state fire will allow a mid-August launch.

VideoIt appears Ship 37's issue may have been with a Raptor Vacuum engine , as one was removed from MB2 last night, being swapped with a replacement.

ORAC 7th August 2025 11:32

Not sure what's going on here..... Booster 16 is/was planned for test flight 10 in the next couple of weeks. Unless it's just temporarily parked prior to moving to the OLM once the hold down clamps are reinstalled and they need the megabit for the next booster build.

Booster currently in the Megabit is Booster 18 - the first of the block 3 boosters. Block 3has an integrated hot stage forward dome eliminating the need for a separate ring to be installed before launch, as well as the requirement to jettison and expend the hot-stage ring. With this design change, the grid fins will no longer be located in the interstage, as with current boosters or Falcon 9, but rather in the Liquid Methane (LCH4) tank.
Along with the grid fins moving there are now only three instead of four, and they are spaced in a T shape, with a fin on the port and starboard sides, and then one on the non-tower side or the heat shield side of the ship so that all the grid fins are in the airflow during glide back and descent.

The aft section of the booster is where things change. block 3 uses Raptor 3 engines and has just two booster quick disconnects, one for LOX and the other for LCH4, along with other commodities. This also helps eliminate individual Raptor 2 engine Quick Disconnects, which have been a challenge for SpaceX to refurbish on the current Launch Mount design.

Block 3 are planned to use launch pad B, not sure when that will be ready for use - but booster 16 was planned to be the last block 2 to use launch pad A.



Booster 16 has moved to the Starbase rocket garden joining Booster 17, Booster 12 and Starship 20.

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ORAC 9th August 2025 22:00

Starship test flight 10 launch window now opens on the ]night of Friday August 22nd between 2330Z and 0134Z according to an updated U.S. Coast Guard local notice to mariners.

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ORAC 10th August 2025 08:14


Moving Boosters and ships to Florida means they will need to be transported horizontal. Over the last few weeks we have seen a large black frame and another truss section they appear to be parts of a breakover load spreader to allow boosters to be orientated from vertical to horizontal.

Plans recently made public show how they plan to get barges to the offload points where they can be moved to Florida Gigabay for hardware integration engines and grid fins. Unsure if ships will be moved the same way or just flown and landed at the Cape*.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1c4a78147d.png

The FAA has released document's showing that this is something they are working on at least on the Florida end. And they will need to get boosters and ships there as the factory is still just dirt looks like they could use the VAB in the mean time before Gigabay is built.

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(* Starship can do point to point without a booster, but would need to use the adaptor ring mounted for the static fire tests for launch and to be caught using the stand under construction at the Cape. This would be a temporary measure until the Megabays at the Cape are ready.)

ORAC 10th August 2025 11:20

Two next generation Version 3 Booster QD's have been installed at the V3 Booster cryo test station at Starbase Massey's test site today.

This will soon enable cryo proof testing of the next gen V3 Starship super heavy boosters here.

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ORAC 13th August 2025 10:56

Starship 37 placed on Pad 1 for testing yesterday, but static fire postponed, reason explained below.

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Workers replaced a leaking cryogenic flex hose overnight and are now leak checking it ahead of another attempt at Starship 37 engine testing today.

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ORAC 13th August 2025 13:19

6 engine Spin Prime test performed. (No engine ignition).

Expectation is that they’ll dismount today, remove the adaptor overnight then start moving the booster onto the pad.


ORAC 14th August 2025 13:40

The first grid fin for the next generation Super Heavy booster. The redesigned grid fins are 50% larger and higher strength, moving from four fins to three for vehicle control while enabling the booster to descend at higher angles of attack.

They’ll also be used for vehicle lift and catch, made possible by a new catch point addition and a lower positioning on the booster to align with the tower catch arms. Moving lower reduces the heat they receive from Starship’s engines at hot-staging and places the fin shaft, actuator, and fixed structure inside the booster’s main fuel tank.

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cavuman1 15th August 2025 00:49

I wonder if the tropical depression moving toward south Texas will have any effect on launch or test schedules.

- Ed

ORAC 15th August 2025 17:10

https://www.spacex.com/launches/starship-flight-10

The tenth flight test of Starship is preparing to launch as soon as Sunday, August 24. The launch window will open at 6:30 p.m. CT.

A live webcast of the flight test will begin about 30 minutes before liftoff, which you can watch here and on X @SpaceX. You can also watch the webcast on the X TV app. As is the case with all developmental testing, the schedule is dynamic and likely to change, so be sure to check in here and stay tuned to our X account for updates.

After completing the investigations into the loss of Starship on its ninth flight test and the Ship 36 static fire anomaly, hardware and operational changes have been made to increase reliability. You can read the full technical summary of the investigations here.

The upcoming flight will continue to expand the operating envelope on the Super Heavy booster, with multiple landing burn tests planned. It will also target similar objectives as previous missions, including Starship’s first payload deployment and multiple reentry experiments geared towards returning the upper stage to the launch site for catch.

The booster on this flight test is attempting several flight experiments to gather real-world performance data on future flight profiles and off-nominal scenarios. The Super Heavy booster will attempt these experiments while on a trajectory to an offshore landing point in the Gulf of America and will not return to the launch site for catch.

Following stage separation, the booster will flip in a controlled direction before initiating its boostback burn. This maneuver was demonstrated for the first time on Flight 9 and requires less propellant to be held in reserve, enabling the use of more propellant during ascent to enable additional payload mass to orbit.

The primary test objectives for the booster will be focused on its landing burn and will use unique engine configurations. One of the three center engines used for the final phase of landing will be intentionally disabled to gather data on the ability for a backup engine from the middle ring to complete a landing burn. The booster will then transition to only two center engines for the end of the landing burn, entering a full hover while still above the ocean surface, followed by shutdown and drop into the Gulf of America.

The Starship upper stage will again target multiple in-space objectives, including the deployment of eight Starlink simulators, similar in size to next-generation Starlink satellites. The Starlink simulators will be on the same suborbital trajectory as Starship and are expected to demise upon entry. A relight of a single Raptor engine while in space is also planned.

The flight test includes several experiments focused on enabling Starship’s upper stage to return to the launch site. A significant number of tiles have been removed from Starship to stress-test vulnerable areas across the vehicle during reentry. Multiple metallic tile options, including one with active cooling, will test alternative materials for protecting Starship during reentry. On the sides of the vehicle, functional catch fittings are installed and will test the fittings’ thermal and structural performance, along with a section of the tile line receiving a smoothed and tapered edge to address hot spots observed during reentry on Starship’s sixth flight test. Starship’s reentry profile is designed to intentionally stress the structural limits of the upper stage’s rear flaps while at the point of maximum entry dynamic pressure.

Flight tests continue to provide valuable learnings to inform the design of the next generation Starship and Super Heavy vehicles. With production ramping up inside Starfactory at Starbase alongside new launch and test infrastructure actively being built in Texas and Florida, Starship is poised to continue iterating towards a rapidly and fully reusable launch system.

ORAC 16th August 2025 10:35

FAA: https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/stateme...ral-statements

August 15, 2025

FAA Closes SpaceX Starship Flight 9 Mishap Investigation, Flight 10 Can Proceed

The FAA-required investigation of the SpaceX Starship Flight 9 mishap is closed.

There are no reports of public injury or damage to public property.

The FAA oversaw and accepted the findings of the SpaceX-led investigation.

The final mishap report cites the probable root cause for the loss of the Starship vehicle as a failure of a fuel component. SpaceX identified corrective actions to prevent a reoccurrence of the event.

SpaceX can now proceed with Starship Flight 10 launch operations under its current license.

ORAC 22nd August 2025 11:11

Super Heavy booster moved to the launch pad at Starbase ahead of Starship's tenth flight test.

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ORAC 22nd August 2025 20:50

Elon Musk: Aiming for Sunday.

cavuman1 24th August 2025 23:30

This evening's launch attempt scrubbed due to "ground systems" problems.

- Ed

ORAC 25th August 2025 06:21

Crews are working overnight on the SQD (Ship Quick Disconnect) arm to repair faulty components that caused a liquid oxygen leak during Sunday's launch attempt.

Next launch window tonight from 7:30 p.m. EDT to 8:30 p.m. EDT (2330 to 0030 GMT).

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51bravo 26th August 2025 10:50

Next flight attempt, tomorrow, same times (roughly) ... today it was unfavourable weather ... (in Europe by the way it's ~1:30 a.m. CEST)

ORAC 26th August 2025 14:51

That's two nights in a row I've stayed up till nearly 2am to watch nothing happen.

Just hope they get it off the ground tonight so I can catch up on sleep.


skydiver69 26th August 2025 16:19


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11944245)
That's two nights in a row I've stayed up till nearly 2am to watch nothing happen.

Just hope they get it off the ground tonight so I can catch up on sleep.

LOL that sounds like many scene pres or bed watches I've been on over the years.

what next 26th August 2025 16:50


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11944245)
That's two nights in a row I've stayed up till nearly 2am to watch nothing happen.

And all that whilst having to listen to endless "multiplanetary life"-nonsense. That was the hardest part of it. Tomorrow I have to fly, so I guess I will skip the livestream. One can always watch Scott Manley's analysis tomorrow evening, if anything happens tonight.

ORAC 26th August 2025 22:02


And all that whilst having to listen to endless "multiplanetary life"-nonsense.
I watch Everyday Astronaut.

​​​​​​​SpaceX reporting weather only 45% favourable for a launch tonight.


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