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ORAC 9th February 2025 14:54

Super Heavy moving to the pad at Starbase.

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ORAC 9th February 2025 15:04

Starship Flight 8: Booster 15 conducts Static Fire test!


ORAC 12th February 2025 16:11

Video.This was crazy. A nearly 60 second long Static Fire Test from Ship 34!

This is something I've been hoping to see for a long time.

A long duration test like this was only recently enabled by increasing the capacity of the Liquid Nitrogen storage for the deluge system.

​​​​​​​Side note...I'm not so sure what to think about the ending of this test. Looked a little spicy. Hopefully everything turned out okay.

ORAC 13th February 2025 13:50

Better footage of the static fire.


ORAC 13th February 2025 22:22

Video.Molten slag observed being ejected from the flame deflector during S34's sixty-second static fire last night.

It's possible that this correlates to moderate or severe damage to the deflector surface after such a harsh test. Concrete spalling would not throw this many sparks; this is almost certainly material from the deflector itself.

Snapshots of a few instances of the observed debris;

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ORAC 14th February 2025 15:02

S36 nosecone and payload section has rolled out of Starfactory, and she's prepped for catching!

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ORAC 16th February 2025 14:05

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ORAC 20th February 2025 17:40

An official airspace advisory has been posted for Starship test flight 8 listing Wednesday February 26th 2025 as the primary launch date with backups the following days.

https://www.cadenaois.org/vpublic_an...il.jsp?view=15

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HOVIS 20th February 2025 18:53

From Nasaspaceflight.com
•BREAKING• Per a Federal Aviation Administration-supported advisory, SpaceX is targeting no earlier than February 26th, 2025 for Starship Flight 8. Backup dates between February 27th and March 6th. Daily windows between 5:30pm and 7:09pm CST (23:30 and 01:09 UTC).

ORAC 21st February 2025 20:06

FCC document notes that Starship Flight 9 (after the upcoming launch) has the option of Ship returning to the launch site for a catch.

Although unconfirmed by SpaceX, Flight 9 has the potential of reflying Booster 14, with Ship 35, and both returning to the launch site, with Booster returning to Pad A and Ship to Pad B.

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/repor...stTimeout=1000

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HOVIS 22nd February 2025 00:16

Surely they would want to achieve stable orbit, a deorbit burn and an accurate soft landing in the Gulf of Mexico before that. Wouldn't they?

ORAC 22nd February 2025 05:53

As with the booster they can aim for a catch and divert to a water landing up to about a minute beforehand.

ORAC 24th February 2025 05:24

48 hour slip.

Elon has just announced that SpaceX intends to launch Starship test flight 8 this coming Friday February 28th at 5:30 pm cst. Let's Go!!

HOVIS 24th February 2025 09:32

Is that 11:30 GMT?

ORAC 24th February 2025 11:02

2330Z - see post 968.

B Fraser 27th February 2025 12:32

Launch is now Monday March 3rd.


ORAC 27th February 2025 20:17

FTS (Flight Termination System) explosives are currently being installed on Booster 15 for Starship test flight 8.

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ORAC 27th February 2025 22:25

FAA issued the launch license for Starship Test Flight 8 today.

https://drs.faa.gov/browse/excelExte...dalOpened=true

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ORAC 28th February 2025 08:13

The hot staging ring has been re-installed onto Booster 15 tonight ahead of Starship test flight 8.

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ORAC 28th February 2025 16:04

B16 rolling out for cryo. If it takes the same time as B15 after this then it will fly in roughly 2 months. Although it is speculated B14 will fly again for flight 9….

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ORAC 2nd March 2025 22:29

No attempt at a Starship catch tomorrow.


HOVIS 2nd March 2025 23:27

Not surprised really. I mean the block 2 Starship hasn't even made orbit yet.

HOVIS 3rd March 2025 12:40


ORAC 3rd March 2025 22:55

Scrub for the day - next window tomorrow.

ORAC 4th March 2025 12:51

48 hour slip - now targeting the same time on Wednesday.

SpaceX: ”The eighth flight test of Starship is preparing to launch as soon as Wednesday, March 5. The launch window will open at 5:30 p.m. CT.”


MostlyHarmless 4th March 2025 20:35

Really must drop Elon an email and point out that these late (GMT) launches are not convenient and the slips in the launch window are just not on. Push the damn red button and see what happens - that's what "Hardware rich development" means :E

ORAC 5th March 2025 11:19

Musk about the scrub....

Too many question marks about this flight and then we were 20 bar low on ground spin start pressure. Best to destack, inspect both stages and try again in a day or two.

B Fraser 5th March 2025 13:01

Launch now expected tomorrow around 23:30 GMT.

Sam W 6th March 2025 22:42

Everybody in the Caribbean running for cover.

MostlyHarmless 6th March 2025 22:47

They'd safed the FTS from the feed. Wonder if there's the option to un-safe it again?!

ZFT 7th March 2025 02:33

Why cant they report in the English Language? This is gibberish "a rapid unscheduled disassembly"

tdracer 7th March 2025 03:50


Originally Posted by ZFT (Post 11842461)
Why cant they report in the English Language? This is gibberish "a rapid unscheduled disassembly"

Blame the lawyers. Explosion becomes 'rapid unscheduled disassembly' - fire becomes 'rapid oxidation', a broken cable now has 'separated'.

ORAC 7th March 2025 03:59

Footage of SpaceX’s Starship breaking up on reentry over the Bahamas and West Indies.

ORAC 7th March 2025 04:10

Discussion of possible RUD causes….


B Fraser 7th March 2025 14:00


Originally Posted by ZFT (Post 11842461)
Why cant they report in the English Language? This is gibberish "a rapid unscheduled disassembly"

I think they had their tongue in their cheek when they came up with that one. See also "Falcon Heavy", I bet it is.

I used to describe a situation as "Failure Under Continual Test" ......or FUCT.

HOVIS 7th March 2025 15:20


Originally Posted by ZFT (Post 11842461)
Why cant they report in the English Language? This is gibberish "a rapid unscheduled disassembly"

It's an in joke. Fan boys and Musk have been using it for years with tongue firmly in cheek.
Lighten up!

Diff Tail Shim 7th March 2025 16:02


Originally Posted by B Fraser (Post 11841293)
Launch now expected tomorrow around 23:30 GMT.

Cannot remember that many Apollo's blowing up. Had issues, yes, in all the tests, but not like Musks lot.

tdracer 7th March 2025 16:20


Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim (Post 11842918)
Cannot remember that many Apollo's blowing up. Had issues, yes, in all the tests, but not like Musks lot.

The Saturn V has the rather unique claim that it never experienced a failure that prevented the payload from reaching earth orbit. No other US launch system with more than 10 launches can make that claim.
What Musk and company is doing is much closer to what the US did with the Atlas - launch one, see what fails, fix it and try again. Similar to Starship, Atlas's were mass-produced (I think total production was over a thousand).
Even after the Atlas was man-rated for the Mercury program, the failure rate was not low - around 25% - NASA was somewhat fortunate that four manned Mercury-Atlas launches were successful.
Obviously Starship will need to get far better reliability than that before they can think of man-rating it.

tdracer 7th March 2025 16:32

Just stumbled across this - puts things into perspective a bit:

Some people just don’t get it, however:
NASA has lost 42 spacecraft and 17 astronauts.

DoD has lost 550 spacecraft.

Space X has lost 9 spacecraft out of 477 launches. Frequently the ones being lost are EXPEREMENTAL.

Diff Tail Shim 7th March 2025 18:19


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11842930)
The Saturn V has the rather unique claim that it never experienced a failure that prevented the payload from reaching earth orbit. No other US launch system with more than 10 launches can make that claim.
What Musk and company is doing is much closer to what the US did with the Atlas - launch one, see what fails, fix it and try again. Similar to Starship, Atlas's were mass-produced (I think total production was over a thousand).
Even after the Atlas was man-rated for the Mercury program, the failure rate was not low - around 25% - NASA was somewhat fortunate that four manned Mercury-Atlas launches were successful.
Obviously Starship will need to get far better reliability than that before they can think of man-rating it.

Von Braun was lucky.


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