totally agree with the above. SIA is one of the best airlines in the world and you are guaranteed a world class training program and work environment. The rejection rate is indeed high and only the right ones get in. But no one should lose hope we all are together in it, if you get invited and give your best then this job is yours.

As much as this job is attractive the downside is the cost of living in Singapore is one of the highest in the world, if you are single you can manage but if with a family and kids it will be a challenge. The salary is on local terms, no housing allowance, no schooling and relocation assistance.

Additionally this job comes with a 7 year bond and for 5 year a sum will be deducted for the type rating cost so even less money. The salary is ok but not on par with other world class airlines. Most guys get the rating and hrs and leave.

But right now we should all wait to get invited hopefully soon we shall get .

Question about the 7 year bond and rating cost. How much is deducted? When you say most guys get the rating and hrs and leave, how many years after joining do they leave? I'm really not in it for the money but the experience since I wouldn't have to do the instructor route, I see it as a plus for me

No idea how much but I know for sure there is a bond and a deductible amount over 4 to 5 years.

Surely they must give you housing allowance as an expat because living in Singapore without is quite substantial and you can’t live in box studio if you have a family. I know even cabin crew get an allowance towards their accommodations

Nope housing allowance is not included. The job in on local terms.

Hi everyone! I have FAA CPL MEIR with 750+ hours. In the United States, even RATP requires 1000 total hours with 200 XC if you have an aviation degree. Should I apply for Cadet Pilot or it is better to wait until I get my RATP in the US to apply for Second Officer? I plan to take ATP written exam soon, but I am not sure if CPL MEIR + ATP exam credits are okay for the second officer. I would be grateful if someone could help me!

If you have a green card or American citizen stay where you are. There is an unprecedented pilot shortage in the US, try to find a job where you can build hrs and as soon as you reach ATP mins the regionals will fight to take you.

However if you still want to join SIA then you already meet the min requirements. The bare min is 200hrs with CPL.

This really raises my hope! Thanks!

Any further news on the recruitment?

Any calls for the interviews yet?
been almost a month for the application now i guess.

Just wondering if anyone who has applied has heard anything yet ?, or if they are waiting till they close the vacancy before calling people for interviews.

Nothing so far. Last time when they invited people for interview the vacancy was still open.

I am assuming expats would be the last in the list, they are probably waiting to see if they get enough locals and PRs to fill in the slots before calling expats.

Hi guys,

newbie here with 79 PIC hours and 279 total hours. Is it worth applying to Singapore or should I look at other opportunities? Need your opinions and feedback. Thanks

You are not going to lose anything in applying. The min requirement is 250 hrs so you definitely meet the requirement. Give it a go! you never know what life has for you.

These days HR of most airlines are so stupid that they’d hire a 250 hr young pilot than a 10,000 hrs middle age pilot with jet time and blah blah blah. So you never know. Best of luck.

they are not stupid. He will get hired as a Second officer. SQ hires hundreds of 250hr pilots very year and it has been the case for decades.

Everyone has to start somewhere right? No one is born with 10,000 hrs. That experienced pilots was once a 250hr young pilot so it's important we respect everyone as we all know how frustrating is to get that first job after flight school.

All the best to everyone don't stop trying. YOU NEVER KNOW.

Example 1 Some HR these days are hiring a type rated FO with 1000hrs/500 on type over some one who has 1000s of hours on multiple jets
Example 2 A Type rated capt with 500pic over someone who has flown multiple widebody jets with 1000s of pic hrs. At least in these two years.

HR ARE STUPID. At least in Asia, where I live. I can’t comment about EU/US or elsewhere.


I’m not trying to offend anyone.So hold your horses and relax. And 250 hr guys doesn’t have to start directly on 777/350/380. They should rather start as a CFI/Turbo prop/FO or at least a 737FO , like most of us. Get some hands on stick and rudder skills before you move on to FBW. My opinion. Eventually automation will catch up but a this has to happen at least till then, for now.


chao

Safe skies

You should understand that in countries like Singapore, Middle East, India etc there is virtually no general Aviation, turboprop operators or flight schools where the pilots can build hours. So only option for them is to go directly on the jet. With the correct training program and resource these young pilots are well onto their way to the left seat in the near future. These airlines are doing fine, so you can sit back and relax.

Maybe you should think about going back to Europe or US if you still think HR are stupid.

Anyways, All the best to all the young new pilots, good luck in becoming a second officer on the A350 or the B777 at Singapore airlines. Also all the best to experienced pilots looking to join as FO.

Read up on AF447.

Perspectives always differ. My comment was not about SIA HR but HR of some Asian companies.
No worries mate. I applied for SIA when I didn’t have a job. Now that I have a left seat job, I wouldn’t care anymore about any right seat widebody job.


My comment is only About HR who have no real idea about aviation or pilots. And not about pilots per se.


cheers to everyone who are applying 👍🏼

DHC-7, your not the only one. I applied on the first day recruitment opened and have heard nothing so far and as far as I know from reading in other forums no one so far has been contacted.

Heard some people have started getting rejection emails. This applied to direct entry second officers, not sure about first officers .

Any one got any email? Good or bad?

Good day,

I also applied for DESO a couple months ago. No correspondence as of yet and application still says “Submitted”. Fingers crossed for all of us.

A question out of curiosity, does anyone know if successful what fleet you are likely to be assigned?

When I did the interview pre-covid they said it can be on any aircraft except the A380. However they added that they were planning mostly for the B737 max but since there was delays due to max grounding most guys in the previous batches before I did the interview went on the B777.

Thanks for the swift reply, the MAX sounds good and makes sense with the absorption of Silk Air. All the best and hope you hear back from them once more.

Heard the guys who got the call pre-covid will be prioritized for interviews again this time round, followed by everyone else who applied post covid.

cruisepower fingers crossed hopefully you get a call soon!

Applied DESO within the first week of advertisement but status still listed as "submitted". I think the next stage if you are considered will be "under review"

Hello all,
I had raised a query here some time ago about the visual acuity requirements specified on the job listing. After consulting with the recruitment team, I was advised that those are internal company requirements, which are more restrictive than the CAAS requirements.

Hi if true then good news for those who have attended previously and waiting. But at the same time I hope they start calling new guys for the assessment.

Yes you are correct. There are techinaly 2 medicals. After you complete your Class 1, your medical will be reviewed and reassessed by SIA doctors. The SIA requirement are more restrictive for eg the earing loss for authority is 50db but SIA its 30db

There are people who pass the Class 1 but can fail the SIA medical. The eye test itself is very detailed so any issues the doctors at the class 1 medical will let you know.

Thanks for this insight. I didn't know it extended to other areas of the medical. All the best to those applying!

I presume it is quite long, but any info about upgrading to the left seat for expat DEFOs?

Anyone know how many rounds of interviews are there? I was invited to interview and had to give a reply if I'm able to attend on the same day I received the email. But was told that its only an interview. No simulator for the day.

Kindly mention if you are invited for FO or SO?

The interview process for both the FO and SO are same. 1st stage is video interview, there will be a panel of about 5 people asking you questions. It's straight forward. They will invite you to Singapore if you pass this stage at their own cost.

2nd stage is the simulator assessment, for SO no emergency but full manual flying but for FOs they have emergency like RTO engine failure etc.

3rd is medical.

4th is license conversion. For CPL its longer for ATP is shorter.

I got an e mail for DEFO saying I am shortlisted and asking me to submit some further information and documents. I am a PR with over 5,000 hours A320 time. Anyone else who got the same e mail please DM me.

DEFO, I was informed that it's only an approx 2hour interview on the appointed day. So based on what you said I guess that's only the 1st round. And if you passed then simulator then medical and so on.

Any DEFO applicants been contacted? Non PR..
I am a foreign national with 3500 tt on Airbus Non PR, application still says "submitted"

Hey guys,
For info - NONE of the foreign nationals (~160 Scoot/SQ combined) that were retrenched in September 2020 have been called back or asked to re-apply. Those that have re-applied, without PR status - have NOT received a reply/offer to interview. @SQ, many of the FO's that were retrenched were in fact hired as Cadet Pilots by SQ; and even they have not been called back. It appears that any hiring effort is concentrated on locals (nationals + PR) only at this stage... They have also ramped up hiring of direct entry cadets (Nationals + PR) also for both Scoot and SQ.

If no one from the non-national list has been called up - its seems fair to say that they are name-collecting and not actually hiring foreigners at this stage. Seems odd that they would even try to even advertise - but this is how it has played out..

Cathay on the other hand IS hiring - and although the t&cs seem far less than before... the chances to keep your careers and licenses alive seem better there for now..

PMed.

Yea what you are saying it's true. Many former employees still haven't been called out. So it could be a long waiting game for us especially DESO.

However SQ Is set to expand its network and increase frequencies so let's hope all goes fast all of us here.

Any expats got called ?

Maybe March/April 2023 at earliest... Notice that the advertisement went up on LinkedIn again. Fingers crossed!