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4eoe 24th May 2020 02:40


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 10791490)
Please let me know why you ask?

Curiosity. Do you know if they upgrade?

Climb150 24th May 2020 13:24

They do upgrade but they aren't hiring and won't be for a long time which is why I am wondering the reason for your question.

4eoe 24th May 2020 23:41


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 10791976)
They do upgrade but they aren't hiring and won't be for a long time which is why I am wondering the reason for your question.

Not planning to apply if that's what you're wondering, just curious. Thank you for the answer.

Threethirty 12th Jun 2020 13:17

Can anyone in EVA confirm if EVA are recruiting again? I’ve seen some of the agencies are advertising for possible screenings in 2021. There is also an application form presented on the EVA website. Ordinarily do you go through an agency or can you apply directly? Many thanks.

Climb150 12th Jun 2020 20:06

Many agencies give phone numbers. Why don't you call and ask?

Mumbai_radio 1st Jul 2020 08:08

No expats layoff, no mandatory unpaid leave, no paycut but only voluntary schedule adjustment for less pay.

I heard it was the same through 1997 asian currency crisis and 2008 financial crisis which can tell you a lot about this company.


PilotLZ 2nd Jul 2020 07:43

Sounds like someone worth working for. And what about supporting expat pilots stuck in their home countries and unable to come to work due to lack of connections to Taiwan? The same?

Mumbai_radio 2nd Jul 2020 07:54


Originally Posted by PilotLZ (Post 10826988)
Sounds like someone worth working for. And what about supporting expat pilots stuck in their home countries and unable to come to work due to lack of connections to Taiwan? The same?

Expats on certain fleets have been already called back for operation. There are many different pilot supporting measures dependIng on your situation which I cannot lay out all, but all in all it is good.

bringbackthe80s 2nd Jul 2020 08:28

Excellent, good to know

SaulGoodman 2nd Jul 2020 11:54

Even during the first years as contractor?

Mumbai_radio 2nd Jul 2020 16:44


Originally Posted by SaulGoodman (Post 10827171)
Even during the first years as contractor?

yes I am on my first one. Even the new guys under training whose contracts have not even started have been called back to resume training.

5strypes 10th Aug 2020 18:55

I’m curious, given Taiwan being apparently at the forefront of managing COVID-19, is there any likelihood that the current recruitment will actually be followed through? The CV is in, but silence ensues...

lee_apromise 11th Aug 2020 03:52


Originally Posted by 5strypes (Post 10857703)
I’m curious, given Taiwan being apparently at the forefront of managing COVID-19, is there any likelihood that the current recruitment will actually be followed through? The CV is in, but silence ensues...

Not all but Expat FOs got sent home with unpaid leave. Seriously anybody expecting to be hired in 2020 is delusional.

bringbackthe80s 11th Aug 2020 05:30

Do you mean all expat FOs are sent home and locals are flying?

learjet87 12th Aug 2020 14:51


Originally Posted by lee_apromise (Post 10857928)
Not all but Expat FOs got sent home with unpaid leave. Seriously anybody expecting to be hired in 2020 is delusional.

That’s not correct , actually as they mentioned before , since the epidemic situation is different depending of the country each individual lives , it has different needs, and the company has been VERY supportive with all of us, no one has even mentioned layoffs ,as they wrote before , company has supported all their employees during previous crisis and this is not the exemption , definitely a GREAT Company to work .

as per the comment Quoted , you have several options you can choose as expat depending on individual needs , no one has been forced to any decision or being subject to a pay cut unless you choose it for personal reasons .



bringbackthe80s 13th Aug 2020 05:22

There are countries in Asia where being a permanent employee of an organization is a very big deal. You are seen as part of a family, and while you are expected to work sometimes longer hours or give up days off, it is really not contemplated to dispose of you as times get tough.
A job means more than a paycheck and is often your social circle, your status and way of life in their culture, the law protects you accordingly.
I am not saying layoffs don’t happen, but it’s a lot harder to implement for the employer compared
to any country in Europe or the US (forget
the unions).
This is something that is not understandable for someone who only worked under a western style management, and this is the culture behind many companies in a place like Taiwan or a (very) few other nations in Asia.

This said, good luck to all of us as we’ll need it.

flyhigh85 25th Aug 2020 09:16

resumed recruitment?
 
I am in contact with 2 agencies. Direct personell say recruitment is suspended until further notice. FCI say EVA has started to review CV”s again and resumed recruitment. Who is right? (This is for B787 fleet) Which agency is the prefered one by pilots alredy working in EVA?

Thanks alot cheers

flytoget 26th Aug 2020 15:08

Hello! I have been advised by my contractor that recruitment is suspended as from 21st of august so they will have into account applications submitted before that time. They have also informed that EVA will be hiring a total of 100 FOs in 2021 and screenings will commence for selected candidates as soon as travel bans are removed (November). Any extra info about it? Thanks a lot

Saudia330 26th Dec 2020 14:54

Any news about recruitment?

Ridinghigh 30th Mar 2021 22:41

Eva air
 
Got invited for an interview this month. 2 weeks quarantine and all the other stuff.

Anyone got any info available about the current contract, training bond etc?

Saudia330 5th Jun 2021 14:33

First Officer
 
Anyone knows the limit age for FO position?
Thanks.

jetjockey696 5th Jun 2021 16:33

  • Pilots between 40 and 45 years of age need 500 hours on Jet with MTOW > 20 tons and experience with FMC and Glass cockpit,
  • Pilots above 45 years of age require PIC experience with advanced aircraft, max age is 50,
  • Bachelor's degree and 2 years working experience OR 5 years working exp. as a commercial pilot,

3cy3D 6th Sep 2021 17:19

Hi guys, any updates about Eva?

flytoget 6th Sep 2021 23:05


Originally Posted by 3cy3D (Post 11107122)
Hi guys, any updates about Eva?


I was contacted by the recruitment team two months ago to send them an update of my flight hours but haven’t heard anything since.

Taiwan borders are still closed for non residents so I guess there won’t be any update until borders reopen.

Does anyone have more info?

Curry Lamb 7th Sep 2021 04:21


Originally Posted by 3cy3D (Post 11107122)
Hi guys, any updates about Eva?

She’s still doing Taiwan, and very good at it. The guys are all very satisfied :ok:

ThrustAssymComp 7th Sep 2021 06:36


Originally Posted by Curry Lamb (Post 11107320)
She’s still doing Taiwan, and very good at it. The guys are all very satisfied :ok:

is it available for commuting?

freddy747 7th Sep 2021 09:13


Originally Posted by ThrustAssymComp (Post 11107356)
is it available for commuting?

The commutes are off. The CDC made all pilots do 7 days quarantine after a flight followed by 7 days 'enhanced self management' (you are allowed to go out for shopping). So if your family is in TPE you were lucky to see them 4 days a month. Now they are going to 5 days quarantine and 9 days SEM. As a result most pilots are hanging in there through Covid or on "sabbatical" and will leave the company first chance they get ;-)

Saudia330 11th Sep 2021 07:27

People think pilots are murderers because we brought back the virus’: Taiwan’s Covid scapegoats

‘Imprisoned’ by quarantine and isolated from their families, flight crews have become social pariahs
ByNicola Smith, ASIA CORRESPONDENT10 September 2021 • 5:28pmTaiwan’s pilots and aircrews were once admired for their glamourous lifestyles, and feted for operating the flights at the heart of the island’s export-heavy economy.

Now, “imprisoned” by back-to-back quarantine, and isolated from their families, their globe-trotting profession also makes them social pariahs in the eyes of a public that has largely been protected from Covid-19.

Parties, restaurants, gyms and even a trip to the beach with their children are all forbidden for flight crews under some of toughest quarantine rules in the world.

This week, pilots working for Taiwanese airlines warned the toll of 18 months of severe pandemic restrictions had been so damaging to physical and mental health they feared it could compromise flight safety.

“People are trying to not leave each other alone in the cockpit,” one pilot told the Telegraph, describing the exhaustion of being indefinitely deprived of a normal life, while facing rising online hate.
AdvertisementIn an online pilot chat group ahead of a Thursday meeting between union representatives and Taiwan’s Civil Aeronautics Administration and Centres for Disease Control, crew members pleaded for safety concerns to be raised.

“Among almost 3,000 pilots some may be depressed and bullied to the point of doing fatal mistakes, if not intentionally? How can I make sure that the colleague next to me won’t be the next Germanwings case,” read one message, referring to the 2015 tragedy when a co-pilot on the German airline deliberately crashed a plane into a mountain.

The severe coronavirus outbreaks ravaging much of Asia has left Taiwan on edge, prompting the government’s Central Epidemic Command Centre (CECC) to tightened rules for aircrews to prevent the more contagious Delta variant from breaking through.

The regime begins with layover flights, where long haul airline crew are monitored by their electronic hotel key to ensure they don’t leave the room until the journey home.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...eg?imwidth=480The severe coronavirus outbreaks ravaging much of Asia has left Taiwan on edge, resulting in tightened rules for aircrews CREDIT: ANN WANG /ReuterOn return, fully vaccinated crew now undergo five days quarantine in a hotel or company dorm, followed by nine days of “enhanced self-health management.”
AdvertisementDuring this period, they must avoid public transport, crowded spaces, group activities and venues that include hospitals, malls, children’s playgrounds, restaurants, places of worship and events such as weddings or concerts, all of which renders regular family life impossible.

The Telegraph spoke to several pilots and their family members, local and foreign, about the impact of indefinite isolation. All requested anonymity to avoid a backlash, and did not wish to name their airlines, who they did not blame for the crisis.

They had decided to speak out not only due to fears that depression could lead to a “catastrophic” event but to counter the growing vilification of their once-respected profession by the public and local media, despite the personal sacrifices of airline staff.

The pilot community believes it has been scapegoated after three Covid-19 outbreaks since December – including a small Delta variant cluster last week – were linked to flight crews.

Airline employees claim rising discrimination, including incidents of schools asking their children to stay home and healthcare facilities refusing to treat them. One pilot reported a colleague had suffered a suspected broken foot for months as he could not get admitted to hospital.
AdvertisementOnce proud of their jobs, many no longer admit publicly to their profession.

“You feel ashamed of being a pilot here in Taiwan,” said one. “I’m not going to say I’m a pilot. I feel like I’m hiding, like a thief,” he said.

“People are thinking the pilots are murderers because we brought back the virus,” said another crew member, describing a “witchhunt” atmosphere, fuelled by online hate and bullying, including comments wishing death on pilots.

Constantly shifting rules have left crew confused and nervous that “the slightest violation can cost our jobs,” said the pilot. “We just need to know what is the way out because right now we don’t see any hope.”

Taiwan, an island of 24 million, has been globally championed for its robust pandemic response, which has kept cases down to about 16,000 and deaths at 837 through tight border controls that impose 14 day quarantines on all arrivals.

The government’s success has raised the political pressure to meet high public expectations and placate fears of a serious outbreak while the majority of the population remains unvaccinated.
AdvertisementMeanwhile, air crews and their families have increasingly become collateral damage of the nation’s “zero Covid” strategy.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...eg?imwidth=480Public opinion began to turn against airline crew after a Covid-positive pilot broke the island’s 253-day streak of no local transmissions CREDIT: MINISTRY OF NATIONAL DEFENSE /EPA-EFE/ShutterstockDespite the pandemic, exports have remained strong over the past year, raising economic growth forecasts for 2021 to 5.88 per cent. About half of shipments are transported by air.

Cargo flights operated by the two main carriers EVA Air and China Airlines bring in vital supplies like food and vaccines, and remain crucial to the global supply chain of semiconductors.

But the tide of public opinion began to turn against airline crew in December after a Covid-positive New Zealand pilot working for EVA broke the island’s 253-day streak of no local transmissions. He was later fined £7,900 by the authorities and fired from his job for failing to disclose his contacts and activities.

The breach resulted in a tiny cluster of four people, but the public was still infuriated. Pilots were also frustrated that they were widely castigated as a group of privileged rule-breakers.

“They have done an incredible job at keeping the virus out but unfortunately people see one or two slipups as failure, rather than see thousands and thousands of flights as a success,” said one pilot’s wife.
AdvertisementTaiwan’s largest outbreak of the pandemic in May and resulting three-month lockdown was initially believed to have been triggered by a cluster at an airport quarantine hotel for China Airlines flight crews.

Chen Shih-chung, the health minister, clarified in August that the cluster had not spread to the community, but not before another wave of public anger had been unleashed on airline staff.

“The worst part is the constant media persecution, everywhere you read ‘its the pilots, the pilots!’” said another spouse, adding that she was regularly being scrutinised by parents at her child’s school. “We’re being attacked constantly, pointed at constantly,” she said.

Another blow to staff morale came last week after 55 pilots and flight attendants and their families were quarantined in state facilities after three pilots and one’s teenage son were found to be infected with the Delta variant, resulting in the closure of a high school and 2,855 tests.

Photos leaked to the local media showed bleak rooms with opaque windows, dirty floors and dead insects. For already demoralised pilots, the order to bring their families was a step too far.
AdvertisementThe impact of restrictions on family life was creating desperation, said one pilot who spoke of a colleague who had cried in the cockpit because he was barred from seeing his newborn.

But he said staff were afraid to admit to the pressure in case they lost their jobs. “The company is trying to tell us there is a psychiatrist if we want to talk about it. Of course, nobody wants to talk about it,” he said.

Pandemic-related mental health issues are not unique to Taiwanese airlines, nor are the challenges of addressing them.

In June, the Lived Experience and Wellbeing Project at Trinity College, Dublin, which studies the link between aviation worker wellbeing and flight safety, warned that airlines were overlooking mental health in the scramble to get planes in the air again.

In an August 2020 survey of more than 2,000 aviation workers, it found that they had suffered moderate anxiety and depression more than the general population during the pandemic.

“However, the culture in aviation means pilots cannot speak openly - stigma, loss of license, loss of earnings - and avail of the same supports as the rest of the population,” said Dr Joan Cahill, the report’s principal investigator.
Advertisement“We have established health monitoring processes for aircraft – but not for our people,” she said.

The Telegraph contacted the CAA, CECC and the Taiwanese airlines.

A CAA spokesperson said the body was aware of the mental stress facing pilots and in active talks with the CECC and pilots’ unions on how to improve conditions, snuff out public misconceptions and rearrange working schedules to allow more quality family time.

“The CECC commander is aware of the seriousness of this, and they are trying to find a better way that would be able to balance the mental health of pilots and also the economic export of our country,” she said.

EVA said it was supporting staff in substandard quarantine facilities and “optimising our schedule and method of dispatching flights to relieve some of the physical and mental health stresses our air crews may be experiencing.”

It said it had offered pilots professional counselling sessions and extended leave for mental or physical health reasons. “We also sent a letter to every member of our air crews, thanking them for their tremendous efforts and sacrifices,” the company said.
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China Airlines also thanked its pilots. “The physical and mental well-being of pilots is important to China Airlines. A caring team was set up to actively reach out and support pilots put at risk during the line of duty whether they are currently in quarantine or continuing to fly,” it said.

It said it was “remaining vigilant at all times. As aviation safety is our top priority, we strive to ensure the physical and mental wellbeing of every crew member.”

*Additional reporting: John Liu



Applefan 11th Sep 2021 12:44

No matter what they promise, your vaccine will most likely never get recognize (They are not WHO member anyway). Ask yourself are you willing to receive 2 more Local Certified vaccine. If you refuse to be vaccinated with local certified vaccine, you run risk of losing your job or quarantine that never ends.

ThrustAssymComp 22nd Sep 2021 08:20

As long as I can work there, it’s okay.

777JockeyIN 7th Jan 2022 15:58

Are they hiring again ? I see a lot of adverts on hiring sites.

Qbix 30th Jan 2022 03:41

Thought Taiwan was an independent modern country. No, they belong to China. Won't have any regrets if that happen soon.
Bunch of retards

Colt rider 11th Mar 2022 22:24

Today I got an answer from APAS , they said that hiring is stoped because borders are closed since May 2021. They will send my application when EVA is back on reviewing process.

777JockeyIN 12th Mar 2022 00:08

Yet I see “hiring” in many job sites.

Jacky_tg26 8th Apr 2022 03:32

Who know about hiring situation of EVA Air now? I applied already and waiting for next step.

Sharklet 25th Apr 2022 13:43

Following my application last year, received an e-mail today to clarify some aspects of said application. An impending hiring spree here?

777JockeyIN 25th Apr 2022 14:24

Wow ! The aviation is opening up again.

Sharklet 12th May 2022 10:06

Anyone else got invites to screening dates in July?

Jacky_tg26 12th May 2022 15:56

Do you have any news? I applied already and everything silent.

Sharklet 12th May 2022 18:25

I applied directly in December and heard back only last month. 787-rated with 3k+ TT.


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