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Austro767 14th Aug 2019 21:25

Well honestly, all may be right or wrong what is written here, never done an expat career nor ever been flying for any far-eastern airline. But for sure, sky isn't that blue (or pink) in western airlines either. There is training- (or better check-) personell around, and i mean now in major airlines, which would perfectly fit tino the culture you are describing here. Maybe just the density of such guys is lower.

my 5cnts.

Macarto 19th Aug 2019 01:56

Black Crow

Western Airlines accept pilots who have the right to work in their respective countries. However the difference is that these foreign nationals who wish to work in the west have to gain citizenship or become a resident which you have clearly stated. However it is different in Asia, Westerners can come and work without having to gain citizenship or become a resident, so that makes it easier for westerners to come over to work in Asia.

A disadvantage for Asians i believe

Black Crow 24th Aug 2019 13:53


Originally Posted by Macarto (Post 10548791)
Black Crow

Western Airlines accept pilots who have the right to work in their respective countries. However the difference is that these foreign nationals who wish to work in the west have to gain citizenship or become a resident which you have clearly stated. However it is different in Asia, Westerners can come and work without having to gain citizenship or become a resident, so that makes it easier for westerners to come over to work in Asia.

A disadvantage for Asians i believe

You have your information wrong.

Anyone working in any asian country must comply with that countries immigration laws and right to work laws. Each country has different requirements, but someone working as an expat still must obey local laws. One of the biggest hurdles to working in asia is obtaining a right to work status.


arvida 2nd Sep 2019 18:48

EVA Air
 
Hi,
Any updated reviews for this company? What's the commuting roster?

Thanx

T7ER 5th Dec 2019 02:31

Update Eva
 

Originally Posted by arvida (Post 10560278)
Hi,
Any updated reviews for this company? What's the commuting roster?

Thanx

Hi! There are few news. This is as the day of today, because things change a lot. First of all, they won’t admit it but the strike from cabin crew earlier this year had quite some impact. No more year bonus! Money wise, they still pay on time tho. But no more protection on currency exchange. We are paid in NTD (Taiwan dollar) and at the moment, the USD is not good, so we are loosing money. Same for Euro. It used to be better and they used to have a protection for devaluation of the currency. But not anymore.
They are still looking for pilots because they simply can not keep them. Upgrade is kinda of a lure... it is true that they do upgrade. But, not fast at all... as any company, it depends on man power and company needs. They have a lots of cadets and of course, they will have priority. I have no idea why, but Malaysians and Japanese also have priority in upgrade. Basically within 2 years, upgrade as SFO then 3 to 4 years max, as captain. For other expats, it takes 4 to 5 years to upgrade as SFO then 5 to 6 years as Captain. Everything works with seniority and unfortunately, they can say any excuses in order not to upgrade you or to change you to an other fleet. Example, at the moment, lots of cadets and Malaysians and Japanese, and as I said, I have no idea why, they have better contract and more priority (even if they will not admit it and will keep repeat you that they treat all employee the same), that means that, as a foreigner from other country, you will upgrade after them even if you join before them. Easy to realize that, as they publish the list of upgrade, with id number and names. Id numbers are just numbers or starts with a letter (A..., B..., C... etc...) And you will see : for example you hold an id number starting like F123... and later, you will see that a guy, joining after you with id number G984.. is upgrading! As for that, it is easy to see that he joins after, but upgrade earlier. And of course, as a result all consequences, such as no improvement of your salary compare to others, lower self-esteem, etc...
Regarding work environment, it is a bit better than before but still very asian, juniors owe big respect to seniors and can not talk and express themself much. Culture of fear, punishment and bully is still very present but they try to improve... things change very slow in here.
Well, that’s it I guess. I hope it helps.

NP12345 10th Feb 2020 04:59

Great info!
If you’re able to add to this, how do you find the crews overall? Any information on the day to day working and environment and rosters would be greatly appreciated.

PilotDanP 10th Feb 2020 20:31

Ive not worked as an Eva air FO but ive lived in taiwan as an expat and can tell you that its a great plade to live. In fact id say that its underrated.

Cost of living is cheap, its super safe in all respects and it has one of the best health care systems in the world. Its also very modern. You can also pick up mandarin.

As an American youd also appreciate how Taiwanese love Americans right now. Many people speak English too.

Some of the disadvantages are that its humid (more than texas humid). But the winters are mild and some places are very bearable like Taichung.

If you have questions about living in Taiwan feel free to pm me. Ive lived in Taiwan for 3 years and am married into the culture. Ive also lived in Asia for ten years.

Zymian 11th Feb 2020 10:12

Probably because most Malaysians who join are already rated on either the 737 or Airbus 330 and have airline experience with hours.
Upgrade isn’t just about your seniority in the company. Not to mention the sim check and knowledge.

just saying

NP12345 18th Feb 2020 01:27

Are most of the newly hired expats still going onto the dreamliner ?

weimaraners 23rd Feb 2020 14:36

How is the conditions and roster for Expats in EVA? is the Commuting option available to expats?

Currently giving a thought to NTR 787 FO position and would appreciate some info.

Any PM are welcome.

FreeMyPlane 8th Mar 2020 09:57

Any News about EVA Air,

How is it now? In Regards to Company culture and time to Upgrade?

arvida 14th Mar 2020 16:14

I would bet they stopped hiring

dl_88 15th Mar 2020 07:12


Originally Posted by FreeMyPlane (Post 10706587)
Any News about EVA Air,

How is it now? In Regards to Company culture and time to Upgrade?

just operated through TPE, they are parking their aircraft all over the airport. Would imagine hiring would be on the back burner

737dan 22nd Mar 2020 13:32

Is there anyone currently in Eva who would be interested in having a more private discussion about life there?
I’m currently a 73 FO in Australia and don’t see much of a future here once this corona issue resolves itself.
Haven’t held a jet command (roughly 6500hrs tot) so EVA seems like a good option for a potential upgrade at some point. Realistically... a command will likely be 10-15 years away in Aus now, provided the airline even survives :(

samca 10th May 2020 09:39

Is EVA currently hiring pilots?

Climb150 10th May 2020 15:31

Samca,

So far you have asked on different threads about the hiring situation at Air Arabia, Pegasus, Wizz Europe and Abu Dhabi, Bamboo Air and now Eva.

It appears nobody is hiring so maybe give it a rest for a while? As soon as someone starts hiring Pprune will be all over it in seconds.

samca 10th May 2020 20:16


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 10778410)
Samca,

So far you have asked on different threads about the hiring situation at Air Arabia, Pegasus, Wizz Europe and Abu Dhabi, Bamboo Air and now Eva.

It appears nobody is hiring so maybe give it a rest for a while? As soon as someone starts hiring Pprune will be all over it in seconds.

and I will continue asking for another 300 airlines more. Sorry if it is a problem for you. I don’t see the point of your reply

Climb150 11th May 2020 01:31

Well only a fool would think anyone other than a few cargo airlines are hiring right now. I don't know any passenger carrying airlines that right now aren't struggling to survive.

But if your fine with looking like a fool go ahead.

samca 11th May 2020 06:32


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 10778831)
Well only a fool would think anyone other than a few cargo airlines are hiring right now. I don't know any passenger carrying airlines that right now aren't struggling to survive.

But if your fine with looking like a fool go ahead.

That is your suppose. I have 3 interviews in the comming weeks. So maybe you are fool not me

FlightDetent 11th May 2020 15:40

Tell us more, who are they? Since you trust the forum and its members to offer guidance, surely for a gentleman of your calibre it would only be a little gesture of giving back. Many could use your help!

lee_apromise 11th May 2020 16:09


Originally Posted by samca (Post 10778643)
and I will continue asking for another 300 airlines more. Sorry if it is a problem for you. I don’t see the point of your reply

Still such a royal pain in the butt since forever huh.

Looking for a job and still don't even do a due diligence like asking APAS when the recruitment will resume?

I did, they said the interviews will resume in July pending COVID-19.

samca 11th May 2020 21:32


Originally Posted by FlightDetent (Post 10779397)
Tell us more, who are they? Since you trust the forum and its members to offer guidance, surely for a gentleman of your calibre it would only be a little gesture of giving back. Many could use your help!

send me a private message and I’ll tell you 🤩

Climb150 12th May 2020 01:48


Originally Posted by samca (Post 10778939)
That is your suppose. I have 3 interviews in the comming weeks. So maybe you are fool not me

​​​​​
My job fortunately is very safe. Three interviews? In this job climate? You are either very gifted of talking cr@p.

j.nips 12th May 2020 03:51


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 10779816)
​​​​​
My job fortunately is very safe. Three interviews? In this job climate? You are either very gifted of talking cr@p.

I wouldn't call an initial Skype from an agent a job interview either.

samca 12th May 2020 07:33


Originally Posted by j.nips (Post 10779885)
I wouldn't call an initial Skype from an agent a job interview either.

no Skype interview. Face to face. Because I know how to move and I don’t cry or blame on others stupid things like you are doing here.

samca 12th May 2020 07:36


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 10779816)
​​​​​
My job fortunately is very safe. Three interviews? In this job climate? You are either very gifted of talking cr@p.

yes 3. There is job is you are ready to move and stop your attitude guys. There is job. Move your ass instead of blame and judge people on this forum. Focus your frustration in other way. Not in colleagues here just because we ask about the situation of an airline. And if you are bored take a book and study.

IBE8720 12th May 2020 07:47


Originally Posted by samca (Post 10780014)
yes 3. There is job is you are ready to move and stop your attitude guys. There is job. Move your ass instead of blame and judge people on this forum. Focus your frustration in other way. Not in colleagues here just because we ask about the situation of an airline. And if you are bored take a book and study.

You have been searching a job since June last year. (You enquired about Aeroflot on this forum. You suggested Wizz Air open a base in Spain for you. You enquired about Jetstar Japan. And EVA only hire F/O's which makes me wonder why you were asking about Captain positions). Yet now that the Aviation World is facing its biggest contraction in history, you have 3 interviews?
No wonder people hate flying with us Spanish.

Roti Canai 12th May 2020 08:06

Maybe you could tell us which 3 companies you got an interview with?

FlightDetent 12th May 2020 08:38


Originally Posted by samca (Post 10779647)
send me a private message and I’ll tell you 🤩

I've cleaned my PM box, in case your message bounced. Sorry for that, now fixed.

Climb150 12th May 2020 15:53

Samca,

Now this is getting interesting. I have a list of airlines maybe you haven't tried as all your posts seem to suggest you been looking for work preCovid.

Royal Brunei

​​​​​​Wow that is the only one you haven't seemed to have asked about!!!

samca 16th May 2020 07:27


Originally Posted by j.nips (Post 10783798)
There are restrictions, so no foreigners can enter those countries until further notice.

Physically no but there is online interviews.
anyway guys good luck all of you

Roti Canai 16th May 2020 08:16

Samca I was merely asking if you would mind sharing which 3 companies
you have had luck with. Not for your Wife's No. not your fracking bank acc
either or to call you full of C:eek:ap etc.

Have a nice day buddy,

FlightDetent 16th May 2020 09:42

Thank you for sharing, PM no longer expected. You may want to add Sichuan Airlines to the list of companies who are looking to hire people.


Climb150 17th May 2020 00:30

Samca was asking about the Peach interview a few days ago. I personally think he just posts on here for something to do as he has been asking for info about airlines for at least 12 months.

I have also heard some Asia based Airlines and agencies are just collecting CV's at the moment. No actual jobs.

Roti Canai 17th May 2020 08:38

I guess this might set off a moving target again. I already looked at Loong air and someone just posted
on the Loong air forum what I was told already before being told do I want someones credit card
details etc as well.

italian stallion 17th May 2020 13:52

Damn I thought this thread was about Eva working conditions 😂😂

italian stallion 18th May 2020 04:20

So i know beggars can't be choosers and there's no much out there currently but would you think Eva is an option , I'd be going from LH seat on 738-800 the last 8 yrs or so to RH seat at Eva.
whilst our airline is still around but possibly not operating until about September I'm just looming at what options there are.
The T's and C's at Eva don't look that enticing though I must say.

thanks

Climb150 18th May 2020 15:01

I know a guy who is sitting on yes letter since January. He has been told that when things improve he will be called to start.

Regardless of what agencies say, nothing is happening at Eva hiring wise for at least 3-6 months and they already have people waiting from interviews already done.

4eoe 18th May 2020 17:13

Does Eva upgrade expats?

Climb150 24th May 2020 00:53


Originally Posted by 4eoe (Post 10786180)
Does Eva upgrade expats?

Please let me know why you ask?


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