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Black Crow 30th Sep 2018 14:41


Originally Posted by B-757 (Post 10262140)
..There are several commuting jobs available in Asia, mostly in China and Japan, where you can take up to 2 weeks off each month..Some include
a business class ticket home and back..Please do some research if you are interested..

Fly safe,
B-757

Go do the research on those great offers and find out how many are actually what are advertised. At least the Japanese have some dignity in their contracts. A Chinese contract? Not on your life. Same goes with several other asian countries.

Don't forget, in asian culture an employment contract is meant to give the employer all the benefit while placing the employee into indentured servitude where the contract can be "reinterpreted" at the discretion of the employer. And lots of luck seeking justice as an expat in their courts if you feel wronged.

B-757 1st Oct 2018 00:57


Originally Posted by Black Crow (Post 10262321)
Go do the research on those great offers and find out how many are actually what are advertised. At least the Japanese have some dignity in their contracts. A Chinese contract? Not on your life. Same goes with several other asian countries.

Don't forget, in asian culture an employment contract is meant to give the employer all the benefit while placing the employee into indentured servitude where the contract can be "reinterpreted" at the discretion of the employer. And lots of luck seeking justice as an expat in their courts if you feel wronged.

..This is probably true in some cases..However, if you go through a western contract agency, get your contract in writing, and they will be obligated to follow it..
..Also,the fact is, that there are hundreds of westeners flying in Japan and China f.ex , as we speak..And what I hear most of them are quite happy doing what they are doing..So with some time and research it is possible to find a nice commuting job in Asia, and be at home for 2 weeks every month..If thatīs what you want to do, these positions are not for everybody..Perfect jobs do not exist..

Fly safe,
B-757

PhantomPilot 1st Oct 2018 03:49


Originally Posted by Black Crow (Post 10262319)
These "commuting schedules" are pure crap. Ever wonder why airlines in the west don't resort to such scheduling tactics (except for the bottom feeders). And it's hilarious (if not pathetic) that you include "standby days". Got news for you, duty is duty. A standby day is not a day off as you are obligated.

Oh man, you gotta see my previous contract on a "western" airline, that was crap (not a US airline because as I told you I cannot work there, so I really don't care what airlines there do). So you prefer a contract with no option to commute home? It's not a gimmick, is just an option for those who need it. For me this one works perfectly.
And I'm not including the stndy days as a benefit, just stating the fact than you get those days sometimes, or is that something no airline in the world does? People are asking about working conditions, days off, etc, and stndy days are days too. Yes, duty days but you don't get many and you don't get called with short notice.

PhantomPilot 1st Oct 2018 03:52


Originally Posted by B-757 (Post 10262140)
..There are several commuting jobs available in Asia, mostly in China and Japan, where you can take up to 2 weeks off each month..Some include
a business class ticket home and back..Please do some research if you are interested..

Fly safe,
B-757

Not really interested in going to China or Japan. A friend recently moved to Japan but his contract wouldn't work for me. We all have different lives. Not everything is money when you live abroad.

Black Crow 1st Oct 2018 23:26


Originally Posted by PhantomPilot (Post 10262695)
Oh man, you gotta see my previous contract on a "western" airline, that was crap (not a US airline because as I told you I cannot work there, so I really don't care what airlines there do). So you prefer a contract with no option to commute home? It's not a gimmick, is just an option for those who need it. For me this one works perfectly.
And I'm not including the stndy days as a benefit, just stating the fact than you get those days sometimes, or is that something no airline in the world does? People are asking about working conditions, days off, etc, and stndy days are days too. Yes, duty days but you don't get many and you don't get called with short notice.


Oh well, somebody has to take those bottom feeder jobs.

PhantomPilot 2nd Oct 2018 01:49


Originally Posted by Black Crow (Post 10263588)
Oh well, somebody has to take those bottom feeder jobs.

Not even. It was a big international airline. Again, not in the USA.

Daddy Fantastic 2nd Oct 2018 14:11


Originally Posted by typhoonpilot (Post 10081550)
Set FedEx as your goal for a Hong Kong domicile. You can have the best of both worlds for the time you are allowed to stay in HKG.

No chance of getting in unless you are a US citizen or green card holder. They dont sponsor visas like E3 for Aussies if that is what you are alluding to, if not my mistake.

avi8safely 15th Oct 2018 03:35

Iím looking for recent updates about EVA.
I tried to contact some onthis thread but have had n response yet.
Anyone currently flying or had flown at EVA, would you please pm me?
It will be much appreciated.

PhantomPilot 16th Oct 2018 03:53


Originally Posted by avi8safely (Post 10283342)
Iím looking for recent updates about EVA.
I tried to contact some onthis thread but have had n response yet.
Anyone currently flying or had flown at EVA, would you please pm me?
It will be much appreciated.

Sorry, just saw your message. PM me any questions.

avi8safely 21st Nov 2018 13:44

Anyone currently working at EVA, can you tell me about annual pay increase?
Rough idea will be appreciated.

FxxMeAmFamous 15th Feb 2019 17:18

Hi everyone,

this seems to be a very debated topic.
I actually finish my assessment successfully , and want to get a head start regarding training.
Any that can help me get a big picture of whats coming next?
How long takes the training?
any material that can be shared?
what is the average pass mark?
how long to start training line training?

Kindly reach me on [email protected]

Thanking you,

Karllog 9th Jul 2019 03:52

Does anyone know what the salary is like for expat captains in EVA?

Thanks

pilotchute 18th Jul 2019 23:19

Just a quick question about EVA age limit for pilot recruitment. Some agencies are saying no older than 45 and others are saying no such limit.

Anyone on the inside know?

Cheets

freddy747 19th Jul 2019 04:36

45 is the maximum for pilots without PIC hours on Jet.

duncanidaho50 20th Jul 2019 16:07

Hand flying
 
Hi guys, who allows hand flying , in all the airlines in asia ? ANA expact on 75/76 as far as I know does. But I am thinking of EVA 777 FO "fast track" and I am wondering if I'll be a nightmare and also if I'll lose all my flying skills. Thanks

bringbackthe80s 22nd Jul 2019 06:46

It will not be a nightmare and you wonít lose any flying skills. I know many more happy people flying in Asia compared to friends in Europe.
This of course if you have an open mind, forget your preconceptions and respect the locals. If not, it can be a nightmare indeed.

ILS13 23rd Jul 2019 20:40

Could somebody currently in Eva please shoot me a PM? Preferably somebody who just recently began. Thanks all!

Eleanor92 6th Aug 2019 10:27

Hey guys are there any updates on EVA? Will they still hire NTR FO 777 going on early 2020s? I’d appreciate any insight, thanks!

Truckdriverhsu 10th Aug 2019 05:01

I dont understand the hostility towards asian airlines and the culture, so id like to clarify some facts. Some facts mentioned in this thread are undeniably correct, but also includes factors you should consider when accepting them as your reference. I cannot speak for all asian countries nor airlines, but the below information, is just for your reference and others with probably the same question.

Just to add to some validity, i was a full sponsored ab-initio cadet working in a national carrier in east Asia as a National pilot, so am very fortunate, and as most western pilots would dispise, a 1000hr wide body jet First Officer. I did not grow up in my home country, it would be considered i grew up in the west, a banana some might consider.

Some advice first. Get your command hours first, no countries in the world are short of First Officers. You'll have much greater leverage, options and bargain power once you have your command hours, even if you are to apply for NTR Captains in Asia.

So, whats up with the hostility towards asian pilots? Yes, we do not welcome expats, there i said it. Just like how the US/EU carriers DO NOT accept pilots who are non-citizens/residences. All countries, want to protect their own labour opportunities, especially in the avaition industry. The fact that we do, shows that Asia is definitely still short of pilots (captain mostly ofcourse).

Instructors, are not god. I dont know what information or what pilots other people have met, and ive come across national instructors, south african instructors, Australian instructor a whole lot, and people are people, there are instructors who you just dont like, nor do they like you, it depends on your attitude and skill too, does it not? As if working in western airlines dont have this issue. Im going to come clean though, some specific airlines or fleets do have a higher possibly to meeting such instructors, but most are freindly.

As for being an expat, it depends what life or monetary compensation you expect to be honest. Most are concerned about wages and leaves and rosters obviously. I can provide you some insight.

CA flagship carrier monthly salary average to USD11,000-15,000, there may or maynot be taxes, housing allowance, per diem etc.

Expect 10 consecutive days leave a month, with complimentary business class tickets each month to go home.

The other 20 days, you can expect shit roster as most has correctly stated. Work your ass off, minimum rest.

I personally, enjoy this, i like having weeks long consecutive days off.

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Black Crow 14th Aug 2019 13:42


Originally Posted by Truckdriverhsu (Post 10541432)
So, whats up with the hostility towards asian pilots? Yes, we do not welcome expats, there i said it. Just like how the US/EU carriers DO NOT accept pilots who are non-citizens/residences. All countries, want to protect their own labour opportunities, especially in the avaition industry. The fact that we do, shows that Asia is definitely still short of pilots (captain mostly ofcourse).​​

Western airlines accept pilots who have the right to work in their respective countries. It's not uncommon to see various nationalities working in western airlines, even the majors. But the key here is those foreign nationals went through a process to either gain citizenship or become a resident. The big difference is, western airlines welcome anyone, irregardless of nationality as long as they meet the criteria. Asian airlines have an obvious grudge against westerners, even if they jump through the hoops of citizenship or residency of the host country.



Originally Posted by Truckdriverhsu (Post 10541432)
Instructors, are not god. I dont know what information or what pilots other people have met, and ive come across national instructors, south african instructors, Australian instructor a whole lot, and people are people, there are instructors who you just dont like, nor do they like you, it depends on your attitude and skill too, does it not? As if working in western airlines dont have this issue. Im going to come clean though, some specific airlines or fleets do have a higher possibly to meeting such instructors, but most are freindly.
​​

In western airlines, the training is professional and taught by professionals. The majority of western airlines have embraced the AQP method of training which focuses on actually training the pilot, not just giving a continuous checkride.

In asian culture, training must be brutal and humiliating. The asian philosophy is "If you are punished, you will learn". While western airlines have Instructors who are vested in seeing the students succeed, asian carrier instructors view themselves as the ones that must weed out the weak.

Also, in asian culture, titles mean everything. To have the title "instructor" or "check pilot" means they sit on the side of God himself, and they are to never be questioned. Never.





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