Longreach
 

Just wondering if anyone has used Longreach China as a recruitment agent and is willing to provide feedback. In particular with regard to any of the China Southern contracts.

Cheer,

SM

FlyTas
 

Do no apply with this agency FLYTAS the owner or man is THOMAS DIVINE. Who does not know anything. Claims to have worked in Korean for three years but ...huh.

I know Thomas personally. He did work for KAL. I do not know what he does not know. Maybe it does not need to be known. Considering that in this world it is more who you know than what you know he knows a lot. Get a life!

KAL & CCL
 

For those that are interested, CCL totally professional. Refund any travel costs on successful completion of interview, end of contract or resignation (other agencies don't and KAL charges). Paid far earlier than other agencies. Great insurance and loss of license (you have to pay, but the corporate rates are very reasonable). Always on the end of the phone and very helpful.
3 years at KAL, had a great experience.

Sigh..... It's been a long time, and I haven't said anything about this but...... having seen a person saying CCL is totally professional makes my blood boil. I'll tell you why. I was on 3 months LWOP waiting for the arrival of my first child. I was relatively happy as a skipper with KAL and probably would be with them to this day if it wasn't for CCL. While on my 3 months LWOP I was offered a position with a Chinese carrier. They would pay for my type rating BEFORE I signed a contract. I did it (type rating) while on LWOP (no contract signed and every intention of heading back to KAL when my LWOP finished). When CCL discovered I was in China doing this course they told me to return to work within 1 week. I said that I was granted 3 months LWOP and I was expecting my first child within 2 weeks. I would return or hand in my notice at the end of the LWOP. To cut a long story short, they got a debt collection agency in my home country to hound me. I ignored them and pointed out that I was constructively dismissed from my job. Also KAL owed me over 30 days leave (a point I had been bringing up with CCL for years - but they ignored..... I have the emails). Finally, when I was about to buy another house back home the bank told me they couldn't give me the money as there was a claim against me from the debt collection agency for #$#15,000. Because I has been with the same bank all my life, I gave them the story and they gave me the money. No problem. In the meantime I threatened the debt collection agency with legal action and they retracted the claim immediately. My point here is...... CCL are a bunch of criminals. They tried to clamp down on my credit rating when it stated clearly in their contract that any contract disagreements would be solved by the courts of the Isle of Mann (where they're based - and don't tell me that's not for their own benefit.....). In short.... I have been contracting for over 17 years. In that time I have come to realise that agents are scum...... no different than used car dealers or estate agents. They are a go-between..... they tell us what we want to hear, they tell the company we're working for someting different. When we sign on the dotted line and things are not as promised they run away. Trust me, I have promises IN WRITING from agents that are complete lies. Their attitude - so what, what are you going to do about it?

I now happily work for a flag carrier and am directly employed by the airline. No scumbag agents involved taking money for nothing.

VOR Holding
 

How about VOR Holding?
Anyone have any experience with their service ?
Or any feedback?

VOR Holding
 

Any feedback on VOR Holding greatly appreciated

Hi guys!
Does anybody here have any feedbacks in terms of FCI?
I'm so interested in either positives and negatives.
Please feel free for PM to me
Safe flights

Anybody have any info on Global Pilot Recruiting? Thanks

Pilot recruitment agency
 

Hi guys,
Could someone give me some feedback, positive or/and negative aspects concerning the different recruitment pilot agency around the world ??
What about Parc Aviation or Longreach China ?
Which one is the best for the chinese contracts ?
Thanks for your precious feedbacks ....

I can vouch for WASINC in China. Good service, generally prompt with requests and questions. However; a recruiter is not required. While the process is exhausting, a little research on this site as well as others should clarify the process from beginning to end. The recruiters are merely a middle man between you and the hr department. Depending on the airline, the HR department should be able to help you as much as any of the recruitment agencies can. Good Luck.

Has anybody got opinions on Contractair, Longreach, IASCO, and Smile-Aviation? I'm looking at a China-based contract and am not certain which of these would best suit my needs.

Longreach , I have had some contact with and seemed above board. Claiming to have the pilots best interest ( at a cost) but peace of mind. Hainan and China Southern

Actually working since 2 years in China. Longreach and Gabs are good. Definitely avoid Parc.

Issues with payments of training bonds and contract is basically illegal. Also tax issues and licence release are a big hurdle.

Pick the good ones...

I am, or was, on contract with TransAsia Airways through Rishworth. On nov 21 TransAsia airways ceased operation. I am currently stranded in Taipei and have not yet received my November salary. Rishworth may come through for us but as each day passes without communication from rishworth or TransAsia my pessimism increases. Maybe I will be pleasantly surprised and rishworth will recovery my salary and get my wife and me airline travel home, but I doubt it. I will update as this progresses.

surprising or not so... you are employed by the agency not the actual airline. Put this simply RIL should have been insured again airline bankruptcy or offset this from their finances, giving you regular two months notice etc..? I know this sounds fair and from fantasy world but shouldnt be it this way?

Anyone with experience with Aviationcv or Rishworth contracts with ASIANA, which company do you recommend?

I tried to read the whole thread but still confused with some stuff, can anybody tell me how much the agency take for their service , for example if I am interested in a contract with Cae Parc aviation in asia, will they take a monthy fee till my end of contract or there is a displacement fee or what exactly, and is there is any chance to be employed by company after getting a screening with the agency

In some airlines there is such posibility - once you finish your current contract with the agency- of being hired directly with them, usually on local terms.

Regarding how much the agency takes from your salary....you won´t know. Agencies are being paid by the airlines and they will pay you according with your contract.
How much is paying the airline to the agency for your service....is quite difficult to know since the agencies doesn´t share this kind of information.

There is a tendency to forget that we pilots are not the clients but the airlines.

@TugaFly...for ASIANA I´d go with Parc.

Hi!
Does anybody have any new feedbacks in terms of FCI at VNA?!

Korean air foreign pilots management has unilaterally modified the foreign pilots' contracts by a simple email yesterday. They are not allowing travel on your time off to any other destination than your designated base. Up until yesterday, your could request up to the day of travel, any destination the airlines flies to. Most of the foreign pilots working for KAL were attracted by the convenience of flexible scheduling and confirmed travel in and out of ICN to any destination on their network that they fly to at least twice weekly. It is specified black on white in the employment contract.

The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.

Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.

ExpatpilotKAL

Thanks for the heads up!

Good, hopefully they remain off line...what a useless bunch

Any insights on Quick Aviation with HNA?

Cheers! Ta for the info

Fci ,

Shockingly bad ,

Offer less money than other brokers , poor support , limited knowledge of aviation .

Re vn , they do as vn tell them , make no attempt to represent the pilots interest .

seems good old times are over
 

I was with Rishworth, DPI and PARC in 3 different asian airlines.

Problems were somehow everywhere and the help was not really much. Most disappointing was PARC, they took just a copy of the chinese argument, no reflection on my problem at all. I have turned my back on them.

It is still a business issue. As a pilot we are just a small partner, easier to screw down than an big one with much more revenue making.

CCL Aviation
 

Any first hand experience with this agency and willing to share ? Thnks

Antipoean Project?
 

These guys are advertising for 737 freight crews in China. Any idea who they are?

Hi Wiz
Give me a PM.

Cheers. :ok:

Thanks for the heads up. Has there been any further developments to this and how are Rishworth responding to this? :ooh:

Any input on Guangxin agency???

I recently asked both KAL management and my contract company for recent developments and received no answers...

Is it too bad in China if you start the process with 2 agencies but than you pick the one that actually got you there??
I can explain better like you send your resume and paperwork to 2 or more agencies and always gonna have some that are faster and treat you better so when you finally come the time to start you pick the best.
Or you have to really start with one and hold on that one till the end???

Anyone have first hand info on Longreach or VOR holdings or APAS, in regards to Chinese contracts? One agency in particular (I won't name them) takes an awful long time to respond to my emails. Makes me wonder how much support I'll get when I'm over there.....

Any insights or recommendations would be appreciated. PM's are welcome too

VOR = no support, ever

VOR absolutely useless, I just had dealings with Longreach for Xiamen Airlines and they been fantastic

I noticed that vor holdings website is down except the home page, the page with job offers has been offline for days now... http://vorholdings.com/pilotjobs/

I'm with longreach and I can say they have been very supportive in all areas. Jacqueline is awesome as far as support in china goes.
There will always be some areas that aren't perfect and you can't please everyone with certain aspects. But if you want a contract in china I would happly recommend, longreach will always do best to support .
Manuel

Pick wisely and if its run by pilots, even better.