PM Me.

WJP

Aeropartners. A TOTAL Joke. Stay away from this one boys and girls!

Also I advice you guys to stay far away from Flight Crew International or FCI.
They are totally beginner and even don't know differences among Type ratings:ugh:

Any YVR based China Southern guys out there that can share info on life at CSA, not talking about the contract details, but how it's worked out real world? PM only please.

For the CSA 777 contract, Parc or Risworth? Please PM me with your experience.

Parc anyday........

Try GABS for any China flying - very good. There's more available than just China Southern.

Also, I have known several pilots with very bad experiences at Rishworth, so I can never recommend them.

See this thread for GABS: http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...periences.html

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I'd be interested in hearing from any Canadians working in China. I'm a type rated B737 Capt. with 500 hours pic on type and 6500 TT. I'm considering taking a leave to go abroad. I would like to hear about your experience. pm me if you prefer.

Fod

Hi Boeing Triple Seven,

Just saw your post. Canada China tax treaty specifies that, in the case of air transportation, taxes must be paid in China.

Longreach Aviation Resources
 

Hi everyone,

Having read all the posts on this thread, I now realise the importance of going through a reputable agency. Has anyone heard of Longreach Aviation Resources?

If so any info would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
Newifr

Asiana with parc
 

Hi every body...
I'm a new commer in pprune and its my first atempt to work abroad. I found that asiana situation is near to what i need as PIC on A320. So I joined CAE PARC few days ago but no answer is recived after 4/5 days.
How long will it take to get answer and comlete the proces by parc?
How is the contract terms with PARC? I mean should i pay them for contract or there will be a monthly percentage from salary or ... ?
Thanks

Longreach
 

I've dealt with Longreach on one of the contracts in China.
End up not going, but their service was great.
If I am ever into any chinese contract, I would definately go with Longreach.

GABS
 

They are the best by far!
No Bonds, honest and very helpful.

Aviation CV? Anyone?
 

Has anyone ever worked with Aviation CV?

Thanks for response!

Agencies help in the CSA 787 situation
 

New comer here…

Anyone know how (and which) agencies are helping (if they are) the guys "stucked" with the NTR 787 deal for CSA?

So far I gather that PARC/Rishworth/Long Reach get the most reviews (good or bad…).

Would anyone agree with me that looks/feels like they would actually be ranked in that order… maybe RW ahead of Parc…?

Of course very tough to compare…thats why I say just say: "looks/feels…"

Would it be worth AT ALL to consider going directly with companies like CSA or Hainan, and the likes….?

Appreciated
 

USMCProbes,

Thank you Sir for share!


On the glide :ugh:

Any info/experience with either Aerbasics or Tempo Aviation and contracts in China?

The Agencies
 

WishForWorse (Rishworse) is clearly crap.

Loyal only to lining their own pockets and not a care in the world for the employer.

Parc on the otherhand have been my best employer for several contracts and the first place I always go looking. They will answer you, call you and even visit you.They have gone theextra mile when I have had taxation questions and been supportive when there has been a question between you and the employer.

WAAS sucks, so do any of the celphone buddies roaming the desert on the back of a camel.

This should make it easy for you - there is only one choice (and they dont know I wrote this!)

Sorry got to disagree, my experience with well known Irish agency utter utter utter ****e! :mad:

Longreach China
 

Hi guys,

Anyone with any experience dealing with Longreach China? Or anyone got anything to say re Longreach at all?

Cheers.

Avoid these guys.
Heard terrible things from the pilots at CSA.

GABS is the preferred option in Australia.
Honest and reliable.

The Agencies
 

Hello all, I'm a new comer & looking for first overseas contract at Air Japan. I have read the good praises about PARC, what about Crew Resources Worldwide ?

With two good friends we signed for a contract in SEA.
Some allowances were promised before signing and ... guess what we got...
So we had meetings with Rishworths agent (JP) and he agreed to talk to the airline. Not one issue was addressed. IMHO they did not even talk to the airline for risk of losing any further recruitment through them.
My personal opinion of Rishworth was once you signed the contract and started, you are on your own should any issues arise.

Personally I do not agree with any recruiting agency as my experience with Rishworth was it was a tool for corruption, the DFO and CP bragged about the their 'Rishworth Villas' they were building in Spain.

The difference between what the airline was paying Rishworth and what we were being paid was significant. Rishworth made well over 7 figures with the numbers they sent to this airline. For doing what I ask!
After one year with Rishworth all were employed (UNDER CONTRACT) direct with the airline and could be dismissed with three months notice. So what was the point of employing through the contract agent. Answer is above.

Avoid contract agencies, the more reputable airlines employ you directly, not through an agency.

Probably not worth much interest but decided to post anyway.

Laos Airlines advertised with FlyGosh offering 8900 USD Per month for A320
Line Captain in Laos.

Brookfield Agency offer 9500 plus 700 housing.

Hey Dave767


With regard to Air Japan Agencies it depends on where you are going to live... Location shows USA... If you are a US Citizen or Green card holder and will be residing in the USA Crew is better as a friend there has said... Crew is a USA Company and pay the applicable payroll taxes to the USA because you are an employee... Have been told the Medical Insurance provided to the pilot and family are excellent at Crew... If you are going to reside outside of the USA to take advantage of the Foreign Earned Income Credit then Parc would be the Agency of choice... Information is second hand from 2 mates currently there... Good luck...


Kampie

Ever heard of a Dorothy Dixer?
 

Hey 22K and ponyboy13

great Q&A session! asked and answered in one neat package.

Do you guys think we pilots are that dumb that we can't see a Dorothy Dixer?

There are lots of contracts agencys, some good, some bad, but resorting to your own advertising on pprune, just to rubbish another agency, looks desperate.

What, can't GABS afford the advertising rates at PPRune?

EF

Hey EF ...

As it happens I've had dealings with GABS over the past 2 years, though not with respect to CSA. In the past 15 years I have also had the pleasure (!) of dealing with several other agency's including B...d, C...r, P...c & E...- pathetic.

My experience thus far with GABS in entirely in agreement with ponyboy's remark. If there's a Dorothy Dixer on this thread I'm far more likely to believe it's you than him.

Regards,

ELAC

ELAC

er, I don't think you know what a Dorothy Dixer is.

I wasn't denying any remarks, just pointing out an obvious circle jerk.

Sounds like you three need a hotel room...

EF,
No Dorothy Dixer, don't know 22k .
Just the facts .

However I do recall the Pprune administrator busting Longreach for doing a few Dorothy Dixers on the A330 Australian Bases thread .That was funny!

I wouldn't know why Gabs don't advertise on Pprune but they probably don't need to.
As I said earlier, down here in Oz they are the preferred agency- simple.

EF ...

I know exactly what a Dorothy Dixer is ... so re-read my remark with that in mind. Your last initial seems to fit very obviously into the rhyme of what you're about.

Contract agency rants
 

Thanks jpn crj driver, I should be getting my green card soon and would have the opportunity to live there or commute from Canada so have to decide which agency would work best.

AviationCV? Someone?
 

Sorry to bring it up again folks. But anyone around with knowledge/experience about these boys? Aviationcv.com

They are offering apparent decent deals with ASIANA on 744.

Any ideas? Cheers guys.

sim bonds???
 

Hi Guys
I have one question
If I passed sim screenning successfully to company "A"(I had to apply for this company via agency) ,but later I decided to change my plans and Rejected to be hired for this company "A" Would I be obliged to pay for my SIM assessment ?
Many thanks
Safe flights

CCL, good or bad?
 

I haven't heard much about CCL. The only posts I find are 5 yrs old. Does anyone have any current info about this agent? Also, opinions about which recruiter is the best for a US pilot at KAL.

Thanks!

Can anyone working at KAL through CCL or TAS comment on them. Interested in the 777 contract.

Ensign F..... Whatever your name is.

You sound like a tool. Probably are a tool. I'm after info from my peers regarding a provider of services. That's what this thread is for. You sound like you need to go and be a smug troll somewhere else.

To answer you, yes I'm an Australian, no I have nothing do do with the company, Hence why I'm asking about it.

JESUS there's some flogs on here.

Chinese contract license, how to get RELEASED?
 

Hello, has anyone went through the license release process in China?

Does anyone know the Chinese labour law covering the fireign contract pilot? If you are in the middle of contract does the Chinese Company try to hold your license and not give you release letter?

I know the answers really looking for the official labour laws if anyone can chime in?

Safe flights..!

On Final

Licence Release
 

The licence release process really depends on how one 'leaves the company.' In our case, since the company had closed the base and hence breached our contract, they were very helpful in giving us: (1) release letter and (2) having our licences transferred to our next Chinese employer. The same can't be said for others I personally know which left the company on different 'terms.' Their process took around 12 months before they were back on the payroll. Those of us that transferred, didn't lose a month's wages.

I know this doesn't completely answer your question, but alas, this is China and the rules differ from company to company and pilot to pilot.

Re Sorcerer's Apprentice
 

The making of a Pilot Resourcing Agent...

A father told his 3 sons when he sent them to the
university: "I feel it's my duty to provide you with the best possible
education, and you do not owe me anything for that. However, I want
you to appreciate it. As a token, please each put e1,000 into my
coffin when I die."

And so it happened. His sons became a doctor, a lawyer and a
financial planner, each very successful financially. When their
father’s time had come and they saw their father in the coffin, they remembered his wish.

First, it was the doctor who put 10 e100 bills onto the chest of the deceased.

Then, came the financial planner, who also put e1,000 there.

Finally, it was the heartbroken lawyer's turn. He dipped into his
pocket, took out his checkbook, wrote a check for e3,000, put it into
his father's coffin, and took the e2,000 cash.

He later went on to become a Rich and Worthless Agent.....raping and pillaging pilots World-wide.