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volare_737 8th Jan 2013 09:03

Hi Guys - I would like to talk to somebody who is with Tianjin or West Air on the 320 contract.
Anybody dealing with Cockpit Connect or Tempo ?
Any input good or bad would be appreciated.
Thanks

volare_737 11th Jan 2013 06:16

Nobody ???????

JotaJota 11th Jan 2013 16:36

Cockpit connect or Tempo? NEVER heard of them, and would never use unless there's enough positive feedback on them!

Is that what you are asking Volare?

expatdriver 14th Jan 2013 12:26

Smile aviation
 
Any feedbacks on Smile Aviation in China?

USMCProbe 15th Jan 2013 11:24

There is no feedback because there are no pilots in China working for Smile Aviation. Another scam in China run by somebody's brother in law.

pilotss2001 19th Jan 2013 13:48

I agree with you about Smile Aviation.

For people who live in China, that website looks normal. But from an expat stand point having lived in China, you can see the Chinese website presentation and the over use of that Chinese blue color. You know what I'm talking about if you spent time in China. There is an odd shade of blue and red that is used very often that I have never seen on an international website or sign. The character spacing and margins of the Chinese website are a little off from the international style from what I am guessing is the pixels per character.

A Chinese agency. That would be interesting like Alice in Wonderland interesting. :ugh:

expatdriver 25th Jan 2013 11:44

thanks for the heads up.

volare_737 25th Jan 2013 12:32

Yes - JotaJota - Tempo is advertising on the Flight International web site.
Must say the are very helpful when it comes to answering email queries. Thats about how far I have gone . Anybody else got any info about agencies dealing with Tianjin or West Air ?

duxone 7th Mar 2013 12:54

huaxun
 
anyone has feedback for this guys? :confused:

pierre6618 11th Mar 2013 02:14

Smile Aviation
 
I talked with these folks at length this week. I've been a contract captain in China for three years and married into the culture (not Mainland however). Smile seems on the up and up, I have corroborating details from disinterested 3rd parties. They say they have placed 18 pilots in China (they are 2 years old), and I know for a fact they placed some S.A. guys from my current carrier. It appears they are well connected with the CAAC, which for any of us who fly/qualify in China can be very advantageous...... Any comments?

volare_737 11th Mar 2013 03:08

Hi Pierre - With you flying in China, do you by any change know anything about West Air. I am talking to Tempo aviation. They seem very helpful so far, but I have not really gone further the exchanging a couple of emails.
I am keen on West Air as the seem to offer a good commuting contract.
Any info good or bad would be great !!!

VneII 14th Mar 2013 10:46

Longreach Aviation
 
Hi,
I am enquiring for any info or experiences with this company and particularly relating to the ANA B767 contract.

Longreach have offices in Hong Kong and Australia and recruit for Japan, China and Korea. I beleive they are associated with Parc somehow.

Any comments gratly appreciated.
Cheers
Joshua

LindbergB767 16th Mar 2013 06:02

Longreach is rather associated with CREW

VneII 16th Mar 2013 09:46

LindbergB767, sorry, you are correct. They are associated with Crew somehow.

Do you have any experience with them? Or have you heard anything about them from other expat pilots?

Thanks

abwrath 25th Apr 2013 15:36

comment about aeropro
 
Having worked with Rachel and having a vague idea of who you are, I must tell the good community out there that participate in these forums to peer away from comments made by this gentleman skypirate. I myself am a genuine recruiter who cares for people that work with us and am someone who works for a company that most certainly isn't in the mess people around business.

737_driver 9th May 2013 19:49

Definitely an interesting thread guys/ gals,

I am Not a contract pilot and I don't claim to know a lot about the contract world. I fly for an airline directly, but this thread is definitely a good read. Many years ago, the airline I was flying for shut-down. A lot of us were left scrambling to find work. Parc aviation was the only company that flew out to meet us and offer their services for possible over seas contract work. From what I can remember the Parc Recruiters put on a great presentation. Lucky enough, most local airlines were hiring, and most of us stayed in Canada with the exception of a few that went to the sandbox or did contract work to stay in the left seat on type. One thing that comes to mind after reading this thread is, the lack of Pilot Representation. It seems to me that theses airlines in China Etc, wouldn't be contracting out for pilot services unless they really had too. Ie, pilot shortage for Captains and some f/o. If this is the case, correct me if I'm wrong, you guys/ gals have the upper hand. No? You have the experience and the pilot licence. The Carrier is simply renting your experience and most importantly renting your licence for a period of time i.e 1-5 yr. contracts. It boggles me why some of you are getting for the better lack of terms, "screwed" by the carrier or agent. Why don't you Epats demand a third party to hold a lump-some of money 20-30 thousand US dollars retention money from the agent before any contract is signed so you can afford to bail and get back home just in case the carrier or the agent decided not fulfill the contract. Subject to be returned to the agent when the contract is fulfilled and complete. It sounds like some carriers are praying on some, with no way out. This should not be happening in this day in age, and theses company's should be Black Balled from the contract pilot community. Just my thoughts. I look forward to your comments, fly safe.

Avireome 30th May 2013 09:21

Lion Air SFI
 
Please don't consider me as fair game to be shot down in flames simply because I'm asking about Lion Air and Rishworth. I'm only attempting to make contact with any expat contractors with current experience of this position whose knowledge I could draw on.
Regards

expatdriver 7th Jun 2013 03:40

I have friends who are on the opposite end of the spectrum. Some says that Rishworth has been treating them well, they have been with them for around 8 years. Some say don't even dare join them. I guess it boils down on your preferences, expectations, where and when you want to work. Just sharing what was told to me.

Dream Land 10th Jun 2013 20:53

Longreach
 
I know one of the guys (pilot) that started the company, lots of good intentions, but the other partners in the company created big problems for the original founder, nothing to do with PARC.

Unlike some folks that continue to live in the past, I feel that Rishworth is the top contract agency in Asia currently, this due to direct support when you need it, along with better than average contract terms and they don't gouge you with absorbitant wire transfer fees, in the case of Skymark, they were the only contractors that supplied their pilots with full health insurance at no cost.

D.L. :ok:

bonaqua73 26th Jul 2013 12:21

UNIC aviation
 
A company named UNIC aviation is doing the recruiting for Hainan Airlines.
Anybody heard of UNIC Aviation before? Does anybody knows anybody being hired through them?
Cheers

USMCProbe 27th Jul 2013 03:53

Fly by night with few if any pilots. Parc or Wasinc only for China.

MDT06 30th Jul 2013 03:30

It seems like Vietnam Air is looking for pilots again, both Rishworth and Parc are doing the contracting. Does anyone have any updates? QOL, etc.

Thanks

MDT

Wings Of Fury 2nd Aug 2013 06:22

Again Vietnam Airlines.. anyone fill us in on the A330 layover routes flown?
I hear some experienced F/Os are upgraded to capt from 330 to 320 after 2-4 years?

LindbergB767 3rd Aug 2013 02:40

If you have to pay for it it is not an upgrade
And if you fail you d ont get back the money
It did happen many time

Carlosp 4th Nov 2013 19:03

Does anyone have any recent information about rishworth?
 
Hi, i was reading a few comments about Rishworth.. Most of the time bad experiences..

somebody can tell me how is everything going at least during this last year 2013?

Appreciate it!

WJAPilot 4th Nov 2013 20:43

Been dealing with Rishworth through the screening process at CSA they have been Great - Made a point of flying a rep out to China and assist through the process and help with the language barriers.

They have been responding to emails quickly and trying to assist in all ways possible.

So far I have been pleased.

WJP

USMCProbe 5th Nov 2013 00:33

Yeah, Rish$#%^th is great during recruiting, that is where they spend their money, and that is how they get pilots. They put no money in support, and they are a bunch of lying lawyers. That is how they lose pilots, including me.

StinkyMonkey 5th Nov 2013 06:19

Any experiences with IASCO?

They are advertising a lot of Chinese jobs, but I don't know much about them.

Thanks,

SM

capthnl 22nd Nov 2013 02:13

Just started my second contract at KAL through CCL. In my opinion, they went from first to worst. Pay still arrives on time, but monthly pay falls way short of what my fellow pilots are getting from their contractors. In addition, my two classmates both received a $3000 signing bonus for the second contract (two different contract companies) that CCL refuses to match. So not only am I making less per month than my fellow pilots, I'm out of the signing bonus as well.

When I advised them of the pay disparity between them and the other agencies, they basically called me a liar and said I should be happy to be with CCL, since so many pilots want to be represented by them.

I too used to recommend CCL, but never again.

falcon10 6th Dec 2013 22:09

So is the consensus that Parc is the best one for Korean contracts?

Yo767 12th Dec 2013 05:29

Just got the offer from KAL non type rated captain A330. I hold a Canadian ATPL. Any recommendation as who to contact for training in Canada? I need to organize my own CCQ 320 to 330 training and I get zero support from Rishworth for that matter. They were mentioning on their website that they would provide assistance in finding a TRTO to organize the training but so far they haven't helped at all.

ABusboy 5th Jan 2014 01:15

Try CAE in KL ..don't know how it goes with canada licence but they do CCQ for Kal candidates.

Rotorhead1026 7th Jan 2014 04:23

Note that many sim centers do training approved by other countries. Some places in the US and ME, for example, may well be able to do a Transport Canada program. It's worth checking on, at least.

RjAgCR 8th Jan 2014 07:09

APAS or VOR holdings
 
Hi everyone, I am considering to apply for a position with Tianjin airlines and dont know much about contract agencies....any comments with regards to APAS or VOR holdings will be appreciated. :{ Are there better options that I am missing..?!:ugh:

Any suggestions for better options with Tianjin Airlines?

thanks for the replies :ok:

lidvik777 11th May 2014 12:46

Lidvik777
 
I am 15 years with Rishworth as B777 captain for Korean Air and I can' t complain too much. At some point my contract conditions were one of the best for contract pilots with KAL, now they are average but they were never worst one. When I need something from them I can get response straight forward and normally they are really helpful.

travelexec 21st May 2014 14:41

Direct Personnel
 
Direct Personnel International are hiring also for Vietnam, Korean and a bunch of Chinese contracts.

pilotede320 26th May 2014 17:40

IASCO
 
Have worked with a number of recruiters and only had a problem with PARC prior to its partnership with CAE. However, i dont believe it was entirely a PARC issue as much as the individual running the office. (since fired)

Iasco however, is in a whole different league from the rest. Superb support and great individuals.

Highly recommend them.:D

MD83FO 14th Jul 2014 17:56

Hi,

Any input regarding best agency to contract for VNA?

thanks, good day.

FMS_747 10th Aug 2014 09:56

Hi everybody. I have a question regarding VNA and the different agencies. One of them is requiring exclusively hours on type to be made on 320/321 while others do not specify this criteria. Is this a requirement by VNA ? I am only flying the 319 and it looks like to be accepted by some agencies but not by rishworth as specified in their job description...any info on that ? Thanks a lot.

BoeingTripleSeven 10th Sep 2014 08:09

Hi. I am interested in Canadian Tax implications with either China Southern reverse YVR base or Korean Airlines. If there are any Canucks here that are in the know, would you mind PM'ing me or posting your work-around for this?

Thanks in advance

Triple.


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