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Zest Airways MA60 crash landing in Caticlan - Boracay?
Just got a message from the Philippines that a MA60 of Zest Air crash landed in Boracay's Airport Caticlan. Can anyone confirm? No injuries to Passengers!
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Its confirmed
1 hurt as Asian Spirit plane 'undershoots' Caticlan runway
01/11/2009 | 09:51 AM MANILA, Philippines - An Asian Spirit plane undershot on landing the Caticlan Airport runway in Aklan province Sunday morning, injuring a passenger and temporarily closing down the facility, DZBB reported. Radio dzBB's Lito Laparan reported that according to the Air Transportation Office's Action Center, the Asian Spirit's Flight-865 "undershot" the Caticlan Airport's runway before 7 a.m. Sunday. The report, however, did not identify the injured passenger. The Caticlan Airport will be closed for the meantime, the report added. Cebu Pacific's flights bound for the island were re-routed to Kalibo Airport. - Sophia Dedace, GMANews.TV http://www.gmanews.tv/story/143644/(Update)-1-hurt-as-Asian-Spirit-plane-undershoots-Caticlan-runway |
Three injured in Zest Air plane crash in Caticlan airport
Three injured in Zest Air plane crash in Caticlan airport | ABS-CBN News Online Beta
Three passengers were injured after a Zest Air (formerly Asian Spirit) plane crashed Sunday morning at the Caticlan airport. Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines Director General Ben Ciron said that the airline's ZEST MA60 Aircraft Flight 865 undershot the Caticlan airport runway, leaving two children and one crew member injured. "About 0657 am today, ZEST MA60 Aircraft Flight 865 undershot runway at Caticlan airport with 22 adult pax 2 children 1 staff member. No passengers suffered major injuries," Ciron said in a text message. Reports said that strong winds caused the aircraft's landing gear to explode, hitting the barrier of the Caticlan airport at around 6:40 a.m. Sunday. After swerving 180 degrees, the plane was said to have crashed into the airport's passenger lounge. The Caticlan runway was closed because of the incident, causing a Cebu Pacific ATR aircraft to be grounded in the Caticlan airport. In the meantime, flights to and from Caticlan will continue to operate from Kalibo airport until further notice. |
lot worst than initial reports
Plane undershoots Aklan runway, 15 hurt
By Nestor P. Burgos Jr., Jerome Aning Philippine Daily Inquirer First Posted 12:15:00 01/11/2009 ILOILO CITY, Philippines -- Fifteen people were injured when a landing Zest air plane hit a wall after it undershot the runway of the Caticlan airport in Aklan province around 7 a.m., Sunday, according to initial reports of the Aklan Provincial Police Office and Air Transportation Office. The plane was carrying 23 mostly Boracay-bound passengers from Manila. The wounded were taken to the Baptist hospital in Caticlan, said Aklan police director, Senior Supt. Clarence Guinto. The airport in Caticlan, Aklan, one of the main gateways to the resort island of Boracay, had to be closed due to the accident. Cebu Pacific Corp. Communications Manager RG Orense said that as of 8 a.m., a Cebu Pacific ATR aircraft was grounded in Caticlan due to the runway closure. Many weekend visitors were scheduled to leave the island on Sunday but only one Cebu Pacific flight, an ATR aircraft, was able to leave Caticlan, Orense said in a phone interview. "Some CEB flights to and from Caticlan will continue to operate form Kalibo airport instead. CEB will try to accommodate passengers affected by flights scheduled to use the ATR aircraft grounded in Caticlan," the airline said in its advisory. Plane undershoots Aklan runway, 15 hurt - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos |
Uh-Oh
uh-oh :ugh::ugh:
good to know that everybody survived. anyone knows the real story yet? |
Perhaps the pilot went after the touchdown zone with too much zest?:}
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"Reports said that strong winds caused the aircraft's landing gear to explode"
WTF? Please someone call the journalist and laugh at him/her then slam the phone down! |
"Perhaps the pilot went after the touchdown zone with too much zest?"
Now what kind of a stupid comment is that? They crashed on landing, people were hurt and property was damaged. If all you're going to do following an accident is to post inappropriate, inane remarks, then it would be better if you keep your absurdities to yourself. Go away. |
Making fun of other peoples misfortunes eh?
Just shows what kind of mentality some so called professionals have. Shame on you :=:= |
zest air accident
for those of you not familiar with caticlan airport; it is quite short at 900m and what makes it worse is the hill at the end of rwy06.
there is little margin for error. combine this with gusty wind, an early morning arrival and the risk rises. for the bean counters it fits and there is a profit motive. but once in a while, there will be an accident given the above. |
Margin of Error
RPC938, gusty winds were probably the reason why MA60 made 2nd approach. . . . judgment in the cockpit all the more crucial in situations where, as you say, there is little margin for error.
all we know now is that Zest's brand new plane is a wreck, there are many injured passengers, crew hospitalized, and thousands inconvenienced with closure of airport. |
we can only wait and see what really happened on that incident... for visitors, don't post any speculations... only the crew of that flight knows waht really happened... we can only sympathize.
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Mugabe refuses to fly MA60 for safety reasons
But the Civil Aviation Authority in the Philippines is giving it an authority to operate!
What are the real reasons behing this? You guys in the Philippines are living dangerously! News - Africa: Mugabe refuses to fly in Chinese jet Mugabe refuses to fly in Chinese jet Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe flew off to the East for his annual holiday, but declined to use Air Zimbabwe because its new Chinese jetliner was "not safe". Mugabe, who has been out of the news in Zimbabwe recently, left for Asia shortly after Christmas with a group of more than 30 people, mostly bodyguards and his children, wife and central bank governor Gideon Gono. Gono has since returned to Zimbabwe. Air Zimbabwe sources said the airline ran into problems when it reserved a Chinese MA60 plane to fly Mugabe and his entourage. This was because the Boeing 737 favoured by Mugabe was due to be serviced. A furious Mugabe refused to fly in the MA60. Sources at Air Zimbabwe said they had received correspondence from the president's office saying this was for "safety reasons". At the historic Focac summit between China's president Hu Jintao and 46 African leaders in November, Mugabe was given a seat at centre stage in the first row when the gathering signed the Beijing Declaration sealing greater co-operation between African and China. Air Zimbabwe bought two MA60 planes from China last year and got an extra one free. The planes have frequently hit the headlines over their numerous technical problems leading to groundings or emergency landings. Reports say the cash-strapped Air Zimbabwe could not afford to import spares to repair the MA60s and had to cannibalise one to keep flying the other two. Mugabe has refused to fly in them since their arrival but expects his countrymen to do so. "We offered the MA60 because we simply did not have an alternative at the time. But not to our surprise the president refused to fly it," said a well-placed Air Zimbabwe source. He said Mugabe's refusal forced a sudden rescheduling which saw the airline delay its bigger B767 plane so that it could fly Mugabe to Johannesburg from where he connected to Singapore. Whenever Mugabe goes on leave with his family, his expenses are bankrolled by the taxpayer because, he argues, he would still be working. The holidays are particularly expensive as Mugabe is accompanied by hordes of bodyguards on the state's payroll. His visit to Singapore has been very low key as he is said to have remained ensconced in a luxury hotel while his wife embarked on her usual shopping sprees. Efforts to get comment from his office failed. |
updated news
Plane undershoots Aklan runway, 26 hurt
By Nestor P. Burgos Jr. Visayas Bureau First Posted 12:15:00 01/11/2009 ILOILO CITY, Philippines – (UPDATE 2) Twenty-six persons were injured when a Zest Air plane carrying passengers bound for Boracay Island undershot the runway as it was about to land at the Caticlan airport in Malay town, Aklan province Sunday morning. Except for a passenger who suffered a fractured collarbone, the passengers and a few airport personnel suffered only minor injuries. But the incident forced the closure of the airport for more than five hours. One passenger, Rowena Versoza, 40, suffered broken bones and a cut to the head. She was taken for treatment at the Aklan Baptist Hospital in Caticlan along with the other injured, said Inspector Lory Tarazona, police chief of Malay town, said in a phone interview. Three of the injured were airport personnel who were hit by debris when the plane crashed against the concrete perimeter fence. The plane left Manila around 6:10 a.m., carrying 22 passengers including two children bound for Boracay and with three crewmembers. The passengers included two Korean and two German tourists. The 72-seater RPC 8993 plane piloted by Captain Vicente Gazo undershot Runway 06 when it landed at 6:58 a.m., Tarazona said, quoting from a report of the Air Transportation Office (ATO) in Caticlan. The plane swerved sharply to the left when it touched the runway after the initial impact and hit a concrete barrier seriously damaging its nose. The plane's landing gears and propellers also suffered major damage. Police and airport personnel who responded to the accident evacuated the passengers and crew to the hospital. Except for Versoza, the injured passengers suffered cuts and bruises and were immediately released after they were treated, Tarazona said. The airport was closed to all incoming and outgoing flights because the plane blocked the 30-meter wide and 950-meter long tarmac. All incoming flights were diverted to the airport at the capital town of Kalibo until the Caticlan airport was re-opened at around 12:30 p.m. Sunday. The airline company said its safety officer had been coordinating with the ATO to investigate the cause of the accident. "It's an unfortunate incident and we are relieved that there is no fatality. We will wait for the result of the investigation," said Zest Air director Arturo Alejandrino, in a phone interview with the Philippine Daily Inquirer (parent company of INQUIRER.net). The company offered to shoulder all medical expenses and all necessary assistance to the passengers and crew, including the transfer of Versoza to a hospital in Manila. Four of the passengers opted to return to Manila but most of the others proceeded to Boracay, said Alejandrino. The airport in Caticlan, the jump-off point to Boracay, is one of the busiest in the country. It averaged 18 incoming and 18 outgoing flights daily, servicing around 1,200 passengers in 2008 but the volume nearly doubled during Boracay's peak season starting October until summer. The safety of the airport has been a concern because of the volume of traffic relative to the size of the runway and because airlines have been operating bigger planes in their Caticlan routes. The airport is flanked by a hill on one side and one end of the runway is near the sea. Alan Java, chief of the Aerodome Development and Management Service division of ATO and the former Western Visayas area manager of the agency, said there was a recommendation to extend the runway and to level the hill to maximize the runway area. Plane undershoots Aklan runway, 26 hurt - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos |
Photos from Caticlan (Boracay)
The winds were very strong this AM...I heard 40-50 knts. Why the pilot didnt divert to Kalibo, especially after the first landing attempt is my question. The approach is low and somewhat dicey to start with, not even considering high winds. Luckily no one was hurt and its amazing the aircraft didnt catch fire. One other side note, the plane crashed into the Zest airways departure lounge not the main terminal. Hows that for irony. Heres some pics of the crash. (notice one of the first things they did was paint over the Zest logo on the tail)
http://gallery.me.com/kevgod/100060/_MG_0725/web.jpg http://gallery.me.com/kevgod/100060/_MG_0739/web.jpg |
Its a relief to know that there were no fatalities! It could have been worse. Landing in Caticlan is always a challenge. Sadly it has claimed one more aircraft now :( From the pics, the aircraft looks like a definite write off. Sympathies with the pax and crew.
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MA 60 pedigree
Looking at the pictures, maybe being that the MA 60 is a spin-off from the AN26 line, the pilots assumed the MA60 can take the beating and all like the AN 26 .. and attempted a bit of off-road safari .. :mad: :mad: Or did the chinese make the MA 60 more civilian use - i.e. made it less rough and tough ???
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Zimbabwe
There are some excellent articles on the internet, on the 'enhancements' of the MA 60. If only the MA 60 was a derivative of the AN 32, then it would be different ..
From what I know, a few other Asian Airlines were offered the MA 60 in very good terms, but their respective country CAA refused to allow permission for the MA 60's to be used in Passenger Revenue Runs. Makes one wonder what is wrong .. is it a case of very airlines using the plane - or make it 2 airlines using the plan - and that is cause for concern ? or the rumour of the MA 60 being terribly weight restricted for short field performance is real after all ? |
Its a relief to know that there were no fatalities! It could have been worse. Landing in Caticlan is always a challenge. Sadly it has claimed one more aircraft now From the pics, the aircraft looks like a definite write off. Sympathies with the pax and crew. yes mate you are right! when i was there during my holidays i saw that airport and its runway. i think that the pilot didn’t follow the PAPI and didn’t cross the threshold at 50ft AGL. looks to me like a stupid careless mistake buy the poor fellow who will get now the wrath of cpt. loudmouth and his boss and the other stooges of the airline. let’s wait for the results of the investigation. speculations are always bad. to people who are observing the philippine aviation scene it is no surprise that this has happened. this thread says almost all you need to know on how not to run an airline. http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...anagement.html just a few quotes on this entry: http://www.pprune.org/4611002-post129.html They canceled they're bookings especially batanes because Chief Pilot "Boy putik" can't even land the MA60! with strong winds! maybe he is afraid to overshoot the aircraft. wasn’t this also the situation in caticlan? Are these pilots afraid of wind? they should be sent back to the flying school and learn to land an aircraft in x-wind situations and not only in VMC and on calm days. "Guess what"!!!!! For the first time the FIFTH brand new MA60 Failed to be ferried from CLARK to MANILA because the pilot Capt.LINE CHECKER forgot to apply parking brake while he was strarting the A/c and he blame the mechanic for not placing the chocks on the wheels. from what i know who would go out there and get those chock while the A/C is starting?!!!.btw, there was a damaged to the wing i dont know where it hit maybe some tree! LOL!. maybe this time the pilot didn’t forget to apply the parking brake and he applied it already inflight so he won’t forget again. The company is really in big mess lots of old school pilots are so proud of who they are and pretend to control over things and there are a lot who is pretenders. there is war between Aircraft to Aircraft! Yikes! Different company, different Aircraft but same old SH***t. if the culture doesn't stop there will be no changes. so the mess isn't just with the passenger but inside the company aswell. sounds great to me! seems the whole airline is full of lindberghs and hanna reitsch type of pilots but not of pilots with brains and the touch for the aircraft. Cpt. Loudmouth’s attitude and ego seems to have already tainted the other pilots. its time for him to finally retire before he creates more havoc in this airline. One more thing MA60 First Batch pilots are not yet done with they're IOE (Initial Operating Experience) Capt. BOY PUTIK is choosing who he wants to get into IOE fast. they have 2 instructors who does not know how to speak English!!! and they need a translator for every flight! what the heck! and one more thing these guys are just waiting for they're schedule for almost 3 months. they cant even celebrate a very nice Christmas no money sila! how is that? a non-english speaking instructor pilot? hope that you pinoy ma60 pilots went through a crash course in chinese. are the manuals in english and are they properly translated? or do they look like this: http://www.asiatour.com/china/photos...hen__China.jpg when will Yao stop listening to CPT. LOUD MOUTH?! hopefully now! if not than yao should forget his airline at this point and go back to brewing soft drinks and juices, at least this is what he seems to know and understand. this aircraft looks like a sucked out zest juice tetra pack. not much to repair on it anymore! He can use the aluminium for his cans and tetra packs. at least there they are more useful than in an attempt to make money in aviation. Capt VP operations! Do something! atleast your the last resort for the Company! maybe cpt. VP ops didn’t read your message otherwise he could have done something or was he again overruled by cpt. Loudmoth? well i spilled the beans this time. Merry Christmas! lets wait what will happen with company next year. mate, you got your wish! last year Asian Spirit started the year with a crash landing in masbate and this year, too. maybe cpt. Loudmouth can suggest that zest air aka asian spirit will send all of their aircraft in january of every year for heavy maintenance so they avoid making annual negative aviation history in the philippines. @basic http://www.pprune.org/4634636-post137.html I notice that the group of the chief pilot are bragging so much of they're ma60 and trying to race to the finish line feeling that this planes is faster than the Q400, ATR and dornier. hmmm lets se,e winds are shifting this time in RWY24 in CATICLAN will just wait for some cold fronts and see what can ma60 do to land from 24 with gusty conditions. are you telling us that it can get any worst metrological conditions than in this accident? maybe they should distribute parachutes and life wests to passengers and just drop them over the island. if you see some bad reaction already to your company why don't you make some actions. make those pilots act like professional one and get less on showbiz. did zest air pay them less that all they can do in they're life is to talk like a gay? , your lucky those airbus guys didn't join the group.try to check your turboprop pilots. they are worst than a truck driver. One more thing. the MA60 is exceeding its performance limits in CATICLAN even the Chinese instructors refuses to land there well if there is weight penalty to comply then its OK . so passengers just be careful out they're. oh mate, how right were you! does nobody of zest air read here in pprune? if the instructor pilots are refusing to land in caticlan why send the apprentices there? the result can be seen yesterday. First officer, try to act as pilots not just an operator or a captains maid. i know some of your captains are trying to be a single pilot on the Ma60 just like what Capt. M did on his training on the airbus. if he acts stupid do your job. if he kick you out of the company don't bother, there are more better equipment to fly. just pm me! Did the crews ever get a crm training? Maybe not otherwise they would behave different. Dictatorship by senior management never works. Management of human resources is what counts and team work. Hope cpt. Loudmouth reads this. one last thing. if the VP operations doesn't do his thing well those airbus will teach them some manners. although i am flying Boeing i shut my mouth if one airbus pilots brags something on his flight rather than an MA60 talking to me as if he is thinking that he is flying and B787. mate, that’s a good one! this made my day today! question: does the ma60 have a fdr and cvr? or were these “black boxes” destroyed during the impact or the data are encrypted in chinese and have to be translated into english by yao himself? |
Ma60 Certification
One Question.
Can anyone advise under what certification was the MA60 introduced to Philippines. I understand that a number of western countries have refused the offer to buy the aircraft as they are not FAR certified.:hmm: |
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