Hey mates, I'm offering a screening on the ATR as a FO, currently I have 3100hrs with 1300hrs ATR time and rated as a captain, do you believe there is any chance for a left seat upgrade ? and how expensive is the upgrade on the A320 or 777 ?
Thanks

Does anyone knows what is Rishworth offering now for FO ATR.
This is what Direct Personnal is offering :Monthly salary
US$65 per day is paid to you by Direct Personnel during ground school (Max 14 days). The payment will be included in your first month’s salary.
Thereafter, upon receipt of CAAV validation:
 For the first 6 months of Service US$3,900 is payable.
 Thereafter from 7 - 12 months of Service an increased rate of US$5,450 is payable.
 Thereafter from 13 - 36 months of Service an increased rate of US$6,000 is payable.
Upon successful completion of 36 full months of service, Direct Personnel International will make a payment of US$7,500 to you as a Completion of Assigment Bonus. This payment is made regardless of your further extension.
Should you wish to further extend your assignment period, Incremental Payment increases will also be payable as follows:
 Upon completion of 36 months full service – an increase of 2% is payable going forward.
 Upon completion of 48 months full service – a further 2% is payable going forward.
 Upon completion of 60 months full service – a further 2% is payable going forward.

Rishworth has better pay and benefits than the DPI contract, please contact RAL for the details, you don't always get the facts from the pilot forums.

Cheers, D.L.

DL.... While I do not discredit your experience with RAL, mine was utter incompetence and acceptance / promotion of ritual contract breaches. If one reads back a few pages RAL placed an ILLEGAL pay cut on their pilots in Vietnam and elsewhere. My experience of RAL while on contract in India was criminal at best.

Better to go with an agency that supports its pilots. Personally I would rather forgo a few $$ for transparency and integrity, or hold out for a slot with a better agency (but not EuroPacific - not much better if at all). RAL's reputation by and large offers nothing of transparency nor integrity.

Talk to pilots with RAL at Air India now, as well as those at Vietnam, so it seems.

Personally if I had the choice I'd rather be unemployed than be with immoral scum like RAL.

Im with RAL for a while now. No problems, pay is on time. Insurance package is better then DPI or Parc. The rest is the same I think. RAL does pay you back a part of the screeining cost. At least it used to. DPI does not. The rest is more or less the same.

To SUN02.: What roster? Is there a roster in HVN? :ugh: It changes daily at the moment. Calls late in the evening for the next day...

LC

Is VN still hiring 330 FO? Which contractors are best to contact? Thanks y'all

I've been here ages with PARC and RAL. How exactly is the RAL insurance package better than PARCs? I'm at a loss with that statement.

And lets not mention the pay cut RAL got.

You're not in control of the facts maybe?

PARC pay a couple of days before RAL. Come XMAS time i've been paid by PARC by the 22, when RAL have delayed payment till the 2nd JAN due the XMAS holidays. DPI?? well even worse.

I get free accident insurance with PARC. It costs around 100 bucks a month with RAL.

I get paid more with PARC. Not sure about the FNGs but the standard contract a couple of years ago was 50 bucks a month more with PARC. 50 bucks is a lot of beers in Vietnam

I get BUPA gold with PARC. It'll even cover me on my ski holiday in France next year with accident insurance if i break my leg. RALs won't. RALs insurance might be equivalent in Vietnam but the same as BUPA gold. I doubt it. You need to look at it. look at the cover skiing in France or climbing in Nepal. BUPA is good for all these things. Not so sure RALs is. And the free accident insurance?

Take it from the horses mouth. PARC is better. Mucho.

If nothing else their beer calls are much better.

DL is paid by RAL so he will sing their hym book to you when you go to sleep.

It's your choice

And before you bring up the evac insurance? I asked for it so i have it. It didn't cost me anything. I'm not sure what happened with the recent accident but maybe they didn't read the from and tick the right box?

Who knows.

On the BUPA policy at Parc, you have to pay extra now for evacuation services, not so on the RAL policy, also there is no deductible on the RAL policy as on the BUPA plan, around $400.00 for a year.

As i said. I am covered. I haven't paid anything for it. I just requested it on the renewal.

Get your facts correct.

Deductible what? Tax? Don't have to pay any so no problem.

How can you honestly say RALs insurance is better than PARCs.

How much per month does Accident Insurance cost you DL. 1000 a year? Does 400 deductable against tax offset this? In your recent predicament, if you were with PARC you would have been paid 80% of your salary while injured. 3 months at say 7 grand a month. And you talk of 400 bucks deductable. My dear boy you lost out on 21 grand.

I think anyone with average intelligence can go through the thread to see your skewed perspective, I don't need to embellish the truth, I am simply correcting the people that don't seem to have the facts. You obviously do your best to make RAL sound bad, but I think it is obvious to anyone that you are only on the threads to make trouble, have a nice day.

By the way, I am talking about the CURRENT policy, not the one that you may be on, we are talking about the current situation, not 5 years ago.

As far as i know, PARC told me i have evac because i asked for it. They didn't mention any kind of grandfather rights.

And in any event i'd be happy to pay for evac and get free accident insurance. It's a lot cheaper.

And BUPA is the same everywhere, not in the states though but who cares about that?? I can go skiing in France, kiting in the thailand, diving in maldives, any number of things and my BUPA/PARC accident insurance is good to go. I really doubt the RAL insurance is the same.

I don't have a secret agenda, i'm just clued up on the facts.

Say whatever you like, but the overall insurance from PARC is better. No doubt.

And lets face facts DL. You tried to change to PARC with the rest of us a few years ago. But it didn't quite happen did it. The few of us still here know the all about it.

So don't be bitter old boy.

And tell the truth.

That's fine, I'm not on here to sell RAL as you accuse me of, I'm only trying to give pilots information, and in most cases refer pilots to the contract agencies, by the way, you can get provisional BUPA coverage in the USA for a low daily rate.

I don't particularly care about the states. I'm just concerned with anyone who compares the contact insurances and decides RAL is better than PARC.

As i said to RAL on leaving, i would like to be insured so that in the event i wake up in a hospital, i know my bills are covered and my mortgage will be paid.

PARC provides cover for this. RAL do not. It's not a secret agenda. It's just fact.

And the added benefit is that PARC stick to their contractural agreement, and RAL do not. Or have you forgotten your pay cut?

Some people just don't get it, you are trying to put down RAL's health insurance that has more coverage than the current PARC policy, a policy that has a deductible that RAL's coverage does not have. I am stating a fact with relation to our Health coverage, not your Personal Accident and Injury policy, do you know the difference?

My recent surgery was 100% covered including taxi fare with NO deductible. :ugh:

There is no need to misinform people, it's public knowledge.

Why dont you relax ia1166.

Since you have all the answers about the contracts, medical and xmas pay maybe you should join Parc as a consultant. Maybe you can make more money then on 90 hrs of DAD, HUI and HANs.

Relax and enjoj your beer in Hanoi Sheraton.


LC

I got paid by Parc on the 25th of February, for the month of February. The other agencies here in China only pay, AFTER the airline pays them. It is supposed to be on the 10th of the month, after the month that you worked. This month they paid 5 days late.
If I had been with Rishworth, the 5 days waiting I would have had to worry about whether the airline didn't pay, or if Rishworth decided to keep my money.

Probe, this is a Vietnam Airlines (info please), not China.