Eva Air present working conditions
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Originally Posted by B-757
..There are several commuting jobs available in Asia, mostly in China and Japan, where you can take up to 2 weeks off each month..Some include
a business class ticket home and back..Please do some research if you are interested..
Fly safe,
B-757
a business class ticket home and back..Please do some research if you are interested..
Fly safe,
B-757
Don't forget, in asian culture an employment contract is meant to give the employer all the benefit while placing the employee into indentured servitude where the contract can be "reinterpreted" at the discretion of the employer. And lots of luck seeking justice as an expat in their courts if you feel wronged.
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Originally Posted by Black Crow
Go do the research on those great offers and find out how many are actually what are advertised. At least the Japanese have some dignity in their contracts. A Chinese contract? Not on your life. Same goes with several other asian countries.
Don't forget, in asian culture an employment contract is meant to give the employer all the benefit while placing the employee into indentured servitude where the contract can be "reinterpreted" at the discretion of the employer. And lots of luck seeking justice as an expat in their courts if you feel wronged.
Don't forget, in asian culture an employment contract is meant to give the employer all the benefit while placing the employee into indentured servitude where the contract can be "reinterpreted" at the discretion of the employer. And lots of luck seeking justice as an expat in their courts if you feel wronged.
..Also,the fact is, that there are hundreds of westeners flying in Japan and China f.ex , as we speak..And what I hear most of them are quite happy doing what they are doing..So with some time and research it is possible to find a nice commuting job in Asia, and be at home for 2 weeks every month..If that´s what you want to do, these positions are not for everybody..Perfect jobs do not exist..
Fly safe,
B-757
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Originally Posted by Black Crow
These "commuting schedules" are pure crap. Ever wonder why airlines in the west don't resort to such scheduling tactics (except for the bottom feeders). And it's hilarious (if not pathetic) that you include "standby days". Got news for you, duty is duty. A standby day is not a day off as you are obligated.
And I'm not including the stndy days as a benefit, just stating the fact than you get those days sometimes, or is that something no airline in the world does? People are asking about working conditions, days off, etc, and stndy days are days too. Yes, duty days but you don't get many and you don't get called with short notice.
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Originally Posted by B-757
..There are several commuting jobs available in Asia, mostly in China and Japan, where you can take up to 2 weeks off each month..Some include
a business class ticket home and back..Please do some research if you are interested..
Fly safe,
B-757
a business class ticket home and back..Please do some research if you are interested..
Fly safe,
B-757
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Originally Posted by PhantomPilot
Oh man, you gotta see my previous contract on a "western" airline, that was crap (not a US airline because as I told you I cannot work there, so I really don't care what airlines there do). So you prefer a contract with no option to commute home? It's not a gimmick, is just an option for those who need it. For me this one works perfectly.
And I'm not including the stndy days as a benefit, just stating the fact than you get those days sometimes, or is that something no airline in the world does? People are asking about working conditions, days off, etc, and stndy days are days too. Yes, duty days but you don't get many and you don't get called with short notice.
And I'm not including the stndy days as a benefit, just stating the fact than you get those days sometimes, or is that something no airline in the world does? People are asking about working conditions, days off, etc, and stndy days are days too. Yes, duty days but you don't get many and you don't get called with short notice.
Oh well, somebody has to take those bottom feeder jobs.
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Originally Posted by typhoonpilot
Set FedEx as your goal for a Hong Kong domicile. You can have the best of both worlds for the time you are allowed to stay in HKG.
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Originally Posted by avi8safely
I’m looking for recent updates about EVA.
I tried to contact some onthis thread but have had n response yet.
Anyone currently flying or had flown at EVA, would you please pm me?
It will be much appreciated.
I tried to contact some onthis thread but have had n response yet.
Anyone currently flying or had flown at EVA, would you please pm me?
It will be much appreciated.
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Hi everyone,
this seems to be a very debated topic.
I actually finish my assessment successfully , and want to get a head start regarding training.
Any that can help me get a big picture of whats coming next?
How long takes the training?
any material that can be shared?
what is the average pass mark?
how long to start training line training?
Kindly reach me on [email protected]
Thanking you,
this seems to be a very debated topic.
I actually finish my assessment successfully , and want to get a head start regarding training.
Any that can help me get a big picture of whats coming next?
How long takes the training?
any material that can be shared?
what is the average pass mark?
how long to start training line training?
Kindly reach me on [email protected]
Thanking you,
Last edited by FxxMeAmFamous; 18th Feb 2019 at 12:02.
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Hand flying
Hi guys, who allows hand flying , in all the airlines in asia ? ANA expact on 75/76 as far as I know does. But I am thinking of EVA 777 FO "fast track" and I am wondering if I'll be a nightmare and also if I'll lose all my flying skills. Thanks
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It will not be a nightmare and you won’t lose any flying skills. I know many more happy people flying in Asia compared to friends in Europe.
This of course if you have an open mind, forget your preconceptions and respect the locals. If not, it can be a nightmare indeed.
This of course if you have an open mind, forget your preconceptions and respect the locals. If not, it can be a nightmare indeed.
Join Date: Aug 2019
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I dont understand the hostility towards asian airlines and the culture, so id like to clarify some facts. Some facts mentioned in this thread are undeniably correct, but also includes factors you should consider when accepting them as your reference. I cannot speak for all asian countries nor airlines, but the below information, is just for your reference and others with probably the same question.
Just to add to some validity, i was a full sponsored ab-initio cadet working in a national carrier in east Asia as a National pilot, so am very fortunate, and as most western pilots would dispise, a 1000hr wide body jet First Officer. I did not grow up in my home country, it would be considered i grew up in the west, a banana some might consider.
Some advice first. Get your command hours first, no countries in the world are short of First Officers. You'll have much greater leverage, options and bargain power once you have your command hours, even if you are to apply for NTR Captains in Asia.
So, whats up with the hostility towards asian pilots? Yes, we do not welcome expats, there i said it. Just like how the US/EU carriers DO NOT accept pilots who are non-citizens/residences. All countries, want to protect their own labour opportunities, especially in the avaition industry. The fact that we do, shows that Asia is definitely still short of pilots (captain mostly ofcourse).
Instructors, are not god. I dont know what information or what pilots other people have met, and ive come across national instructors, south african instructors, Australian instructor a whole lot, and people are people, there are instructors who you just dont like, nor do they like you, it depends on your attitude and skill too, does it not? As if working in western airlines dont have this issue. Im going to come clean though, some specific airlines or fleets do have a higher possibly to meeting such instructors, but most are freindly.
As for being an expat, it depends what life or monetary compensation you expect to be honest. Most are concerned about wages and leaves and rosters obviously. I can provide you some insight.
CA flagship carrier monthly salary average to USD11,000-15,000, there may or maynot be taxes, housing allowance, per diem etc.
Expect 10 consecutive days leave a month, with complimentary business class tickets each month to go home.
The other 20 days, you can expect shit roster as most has correctly stated. Work your ass off, minimum rest.
I personally, enjoy this, i like having weeks long consecutive days off.
Just to add to some validity, i was a full sponsored ab-initio cadet working in a national carrier in east Asia as a National pilot, so am very fortunate, and as most western pilots would dispise, a 1000hr wide body jet First Officer. I did not grow up in my home country, it would be considered i grew up in the west, a banana some might consider.
Some advice first. Get your command hours first, no countries in the world are short of First Officers. You'll have much greater leverage, options and bargain power once you have your command hours, even if you are to apply for NTR Captains in Asia.
So, whats up with the hostility towards asian pilots? Yes, we do not welcome expats, there i said it. Just like how the US/EU carriers DO NOT accept pilots who are non-citizens/residences. All countries, want to protect their own labour opportunities, especially in the avaition industry. The fact that we do, shows that Asia is definitely still short of pilots (captain mostly ofcourse).
Instructors, are not god. I dont know what information or what pilots other people have met, and ive come across national instructors, south african instructors, Australian instructor a whole lot, and people are people, there are instructors who you just dont like, nor do they like you, it depends on your attitude and skill too, does it not? As if working in western airlines dont have this issue. Im going to come clean though, some specific airlines or fleets do have a higher possibly to meeting such instructors, but most are freindly.
As for being an expat, it depends what life or monetary compensation you expect to be honest. Most are concerned about wages and leaves and rosters obviously. I can provide you some insight.
CA flagship carrier monthly salary average to USD11,000-15,000, there may or maynot be taxes, housing allowance, per diem etc.
Expect 10 consecutive days leave a month, with complimentary business class tickets each month to go home.
The other 20 days, you can expect shit roster as most has correctly stated. Work your ass off, minimum rest.
I personally, enjoy this, i like having weeks long consecutive days off.
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Originally Posted by Truckdriverhsu
So, whats up with the hostility towards asian pilots? Yes, we do not welcome expats, there i said it. Just like how the US/EU carriers DO NOT accept pilots who are non-citizens/residences. All countries, want to protect their own labour opportunities, especially in the avaition industry. The fact that we do, shows that Asia is definitely still short of pilots (captain mostly ofcourse).
Originally Posted by Truckdriverhsu
Instructors, are not god. I dont know what information or what pilots other people have met, and ive come across national instructors, south african instructors, Australian instructor a whole lot, and people are people, there are instructors who you just dont like, nor do they like you, it depends on your attitude and skill too, does it not? As if working in western airlines dont have this issue. Im going to come clean though, some specific airlines or fleets do have a higher possibly to meeting such instructors, but most are freindly.
In asian culture, training must be brutal and humiliating. The asian philosophy is "If you are punished, you will learn". While western airlines have Instructors who are vested in seeing the students succeed, asian carrier instructors view themselves as the ones that must weed out the weak.
Also, in asian culture, titles mean everything. To have the title "instructor" or "check pilot" means they sit on the side of God himself, and they are to never be questioned. Never.
