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It will not be the government but pure economics. Tony will try to influence government policy like he did in Malaysia , but he will find the going difficult. And pretty soon , they will exit India.
d the aviation sector esp. in the last 5 years. Can't understand how anybody in their right senses would want to start operatios in India at this time. Or perhaps it's about special favours to foreign carriers 
to kill their own brethren and flag bearer
Right now the entire management team at Air Asia are like parrots talking about the lowest fares and changing the way etc , pretty soon they will realize that they can't do it.
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this will go through in the end. its too big and hot not to. but then, at the right time, the dogs will move in and rip it to shreds.
the only way for the country to move one inch forward, is to get rid of the one block in the way, for any sector.........get rid of the monarchy. period.
the only way for the country to move one inch forward, is to get rid of the one block in the way, for any sector.........get rid of the monarchy. period.
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Update
AirAsia India set to miss its December take-off deadline
Low-cost carrier AirAsia might have to defer the launch of its domestic operations to early 2014, as the process to procure an operating permit would take three months.
Earlier, there was no such timeframe for completion of the process. But the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) last month issued an air operator certification manual, which stipulates that an application for permit must be filed at least 90 days before the date of intended launch of operations. Separately, the regulator has also listed out the tasks to be completed within the 90-day period. These include document evaluation and inspection and five review meetings with an applicant.
According to sources, the procedures have been documented and the timeframe laid down following audit observations of the US Federal Aviation Administration.
These new stipulations are set to affect the plans of AirAsia, which was targeting a December launch. The airline has yet to apply for an operating permit and it can do so only after securing a no-objection certificate from the civil aviation ministry.
Also, the 90-day period is only an indicative time limit and the actual process can take even longer if formalities have not been completed.
AirAsia would have ideally liked to start its services in December to gain from the peak-season travel demand in November and December, when strong passenger loads allow airlines to charge higher fares. But it can file a schedule to launch its services only after receiving the permit. Demand, as well as fares, tend to drop in the months of February and March.
An AirAsia spokesperson said: “The launch date fully depends on when we get permissions from the government.”
Director General of Civil Aviation Arun Mishra said: “AirAsia’s CEO Mittu Chandilya met me two days back to discuss the airline’s plans. Their team is working on the documentation. We have not received a formal application for a permit. Once the NOC has been received, they will start working with our team. The permit can be issued in a month if all requirements are in place.”
The airline did not respond to queries related to its marketing and strategy. However, Chandilya had told Business Standard in an earlier interaction: “On-time and service will be hygiene factors. Passengers should expect more than what they are used to at present. Pricing and connectivity will be key differentiators. We want to bring fares down by 25-30%.” The airline is targeting first-time flyers and, according to a media report, its Chief Commercial Officer Amisha Sethi has been visiting railway stations and bus stands to understand passenger behaviour.
Aviation industry experts say the airline needs to do more than offering low fares if it has to compete with the likes of IndiGo and SpiceJet.
AirAsia has said it will focus on South India and not fly on the Mumbai-Delhi route. But critics say there aren’t many untapped routes from Chennai. At present, Madurai has no air connectivity with Bangalore but nine daily flights to Chennai.
“Kozhikode and Mangalore are underserved from Chennai but there is not enough demand on these routes. There are cities in Gujarat and Madhya Pradesh that have a seasonal demand from Chennai. Again, there is a difference between AirAsia and AirDeccan. When Deccan started operations, it was the only one offering cheap fares. But this low-fares strategy is being used by everyone now,” said an executive of a rival private airline.
“There has to be a reason why I as an IndiGo customer would want to travel on AirAsia. Perhaps, I will fly for the experience or to see a nice aircraft. But I will need something more tangible to hook me. That could be add-on frills in a package, pricing or loyalty programme,” said Gaurav Sundaram, country head, Egencia, the business travel arm of Expedia. Sundaram draws a parallel with retailers who keep prices low but attract customers with loyalty programmes and credit card & cash-back offers.
“Tony Fernandes (AirAsia group CEO) must have mapped out a strategy. I feel the airline is going to come up with something that changes the paradigm and makes people feel they want to fly AirAsia for the experience of it — irrespective of whether it is cheaper by Rs 100 or Rs 500,” Sundaram added.
Low-cost carrier AirAsia might have to defer the launch of its domestic operations to early 2014, as the process to procure an operating permit would take three months.
Earlier, there was no such timeframe for completion of the process. But the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) last month issued an air operator certification manual, which stipulates that an application for permit must be filed at least 90 days before the date of intended launch of operations. Separately, the regulator has also listed out the tasks to be completed within the 90-day period. These include document evaluation and inspection and five review meetings with an applicant.
According to sources, the procedures have been documented and the timeframe laid down following audit observations of the US Federal Aviation Administration.
These new stipulations are set to affect the plans of AirAsia, which was targeting a December launch. The airline has yet to apply for an operating permit and it can do so only after securing a no-objection certificate from the civil aviation ministry.
Also, the 90-day period is only an indicative time limit and the actual process can take even longer if formalities have not been completed.
AirAsia would have ideally liked to start its services in December to gain from the peak-season travel demand in November and December, when strong passenger loads allow airlines to charge higher fares. But it can file a schedule to launch its services only after receiving the permit. Demand, as well as fares, tend to drop in the months of February and March.
An AirAsia spokesperson said: “The launch date fully depends on when we get permissions from the government.”
Director General of Civil Aviation Arun Mishra said: “AirAsia’s CEO Mittu Chandilya met me two days back to discuss the airline’s plans. Their team is working on the documentation. We have not received a formal application for a permit. Once the NOC has been received, they will start working with our team. The permit can be issued in a month if all requirements are in place.”
The airline did not respond to queries related to its marketing and strategy. However, Chandilya had told Business Standard in an earlier interaction: “On-time and service will be hygiene factors. Passengers should expect more than what they are used to at present. Pricing and connectivity will be key differentiators. We want to bring fares down by 25-30%.” The airline is targeting first-time flyers and, according to a media report, its Chief Commercial Officer Amisha Sethi has been visiting railway stations and bus stands to understand passenger behaviour.
Aviation industry experts say the airline needs to do more than offering low fares if it has to compete with the likes of IndiGo and SpiceJet.
AirAsia has said it will focus on South India and not fly on the Mumbai-Delhi route. But critics say there aren’t many untapped routes from Chennai. At present, Madurai has no air connectivity with Bangalore but nine daily flights to Chennai.
“Kozhikode and Mangalore are underserved from Chennai but there is not enough demand on these routes. There are cities in Gujarat and Madhya Pradesh that have a seasonal demand from Chennai. Again, there is a difference between AirAsia and AirDeccan. When Deccan started operations, it was the only one offering cheap fares. But this low-fares strategy is being used by everyone now,” said an executive of a rival private airline.
“There has to be a reason why I as an IndiGo customer would want to travel on AirAsia. Perhaps, I will fly for the experience or to see a nice aircraft. But I will need something more tangible to hook me. That could be add-on frills in a package, pricing or loyalty programme,” said Gaurav Sundaram, country head, Egencia, the business travel arm of Expedia. Sundaram draws a parallel with retailers who keep prices low but attract customers with loyalty programmes and credit card & cash-back offers.
“Tony Fernandes (AirAsia group CEO) must have mapped out a strategy. I feel the airline is going to come up with something that changes the paradigm and makes people feel they want to fly AirAsia for the experience of it — irrespective of whether it is cheaper by Rs 100 or Rs 500,” Sundaram added.
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great strategy. how much does Arun Mishra and his gang want in the first place. ?? the DGCA is a filthy corrupted joke, and, its an extension of the palm of every Congress politician.
this will go through in the end as it is too visible. its a matter of time before it is closed due to some stupid reason or another, or the suitcases have to be filled as usual.
this will go through in the end as it is too visible. its a matter of time before it is closed due to some stupid reason or another, or the suitcases have to be filled as usual.
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Rdr I am no congress supporter but I don't think any new party would make a difference to the system. I think all the aviators who have been around long enough know how things were tweaked in the 1990s to favour a particular airline. The point is the Indian system is tough and if you want to function in that environment you will need a seasoned team running the show. Air Asia just don't have that and that will cause them a lot of problems. I won't be surprised if they have a limited life in India.
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Wasn't the DGCA to be disbanded and a CAA formed with all new people and no
involvement of the government
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Mr.Swamy is a brilliant guy. He should also go to court with the following questions if he really wants to make a change :
1) Why were Air India and Indian Airlines merged ?
2) Why was there no enquiry into the massive orders for aircraft placed by the national carrier when it has literally brought the airline to bankruptcy ?
3) How was the massive bilateral rights to Abu Dhabi cleared just prior to the Jet Etihad deal ?
4) Why was this permitted knowing that the national airline will be flown out of business by such a move ? Weren't national interests looked into ?
1) Why were Air India and Indian Airlines merged ?
2) Why was there no enquiry into the massive orders for aircraft placed by the national carrier when it has literally brought the airline to bankruptcy ?
3) How was the massive bilateral rights to Abu Dhabi cleared just prior to the Jet Etihad deal ?
4) Why was this permitted knowing that the national airline will be flown out of business by such a move ? Weren't national interests looked into ?
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According to news sources Arun Bhatia of Telestra Tradeplace ( the 3rd shareholder in Air Asia India ) in is not very happy about not being kept in the loop of Tata Sons JV with SIA
He has reportedly offered to buy out the remaining stake of Air Asia India that is owned by TATA
He has reportedly offered to buy out the remaining stake of Air Asia India that is owned by TATA
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Airasia India gets NOC !!!!
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I say any update on the Air Asia India delay : We have crossed the September start date , we have crossed the Diwali start date ( Nov ) and we will soon cross the end of the year start date ( Dec ) and before you know it we will be in March , end of the financial year start date. I guess wonderkid Mittu is finding it tough after all. Well don't say I didn't warn you folks , and in about 2 years from now , you will hear about the dream team breaking apart and Old Tony blaming everyone else about why they are doing badly....last saw homeboy Mittu doing a photo shoot on the Chennai airport apron...since they didn't have an office yet to take a photo shoot.
