Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > South Asia and the Far East
Reload this Page >

ATP Radio aids DGCA Prep Questions

Wikiposts
Search
South Asia and the Far East News and views on the fast growing and changing aviation scene on the planet.

ATP Radio aids DGCA Prep Questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 21st Apr 2011, 09:21
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Somehwere nowhere
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ATP Radio aids DGCA Prep Questions

Can anyone solve this and show how to get the answer.



An aircraft has to communicate with a VHF station at a range of 300 nm, if the ground station
is situated 2500' amsl which ofthe following is the lowest altitude at which contact is likely to
be made?
a) 190'
b) 1,378'
c) 37,600'
d) 84,100'

An aircraft at19,000ft wishes to communicate with a VDF station at 1,400ft amsl. What is the
maximum range at which contact is likely?
a) 175nm
b) 400.0nm
c) 62.5nm
d) 216nm
Pulkdahulk is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2011, 09:43
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: India
Age: 34
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question1

Range (nm) = 1.25 sq root ht. of transmitter + 1.25 sq. root ht of reciever
300 =1.25 sq root 2500 + 1.25 sq root ht of rec.
300 = 62.5 + 1.25 sq root ht of rec
300-62.5 = 1.25 sq root ht of rec
237.5 =1.25 sq root ht of rec
237.5/1.25= sq. root ht of rec ( Assume this to be X feet amsl )
190 = sq root x
sq. both sides
x= 36100 feet
Hence, the close option is C

Question2
Same formula to be used for this question, just that this tym range is to be calculated.
Range (nm) = 1.25 sq root 19000 + 1.25 sq. root 1400
= 172.30 +46.77
=219 nm approx
Hence, close option is D

Correct me if I'm wrong.!
Aviator09 is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2011, 10:02
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Somehwere nowhere
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You got the first one right but for some reason Oxford book is showing as second Question A as the answer. I do not know how they got to that.

I have a Quick Question if anyone knows this

If I hold an FAA ATP License, and I have to convert to DGCA ATP after holding Indian CPL and RT and FRTOL, I understand we have to give Composite ATP Nav/Radio Aids/Met and no Regs

Do we have to do viva also unlike General Issuance of ATP Paper where 3 seperate papers [Gen Navs, Radio Aids, Met and Viva] to get ATP

Please clarify
Pulkdahulk is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2011, 10:28
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Delhi
Age: 34
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
what is the rhumb line track from A (4500N 01000W) to B (4830N 01500W) ?

Thats all the info provided in the question
can't seem to get my head around it?
please post the complete answer with method.

Thanks!
livetokill22 is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2011, 11:12
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: india
Age: 34
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Is the answer 315 degrees ?
yash is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2011, 11:30
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Delhi
Age: 34
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yes
can you please explain
thanks heaps
livetokill22 is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2011, 11:43
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: india
Age: 34
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
okay i am not sure if my approach was right i just did what i could make out of this problem but i'l tell you what i did ....

try and make a triangle , with two corners as coordinates you have just mentioned and third this ( 45 N , 15 W ) .....so now its a basic triangle question ....find values of two sides one joining 45 N to 48 30 N and other side being calculated as 5 (ch long ) X 60 X cos mean lat .

Tan @ = Perpendicular / Base

you will get the angle as 45 something , add it 270 ( as 15 W is 270 of 10 W ) . It should add up to 315.2

SO GUYS WHAT DO YOU THINK IS IT THE RIGHT WAY OR I JUST GOT A FLUKE ???
yash is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2011, 11:51
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Delhi
Age: 34
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks A lot bro!

I think its legitimate method, one of the other guys answered as well and he had the same method

post 523
http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...ml#post6404156
livetokill22 is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2011, 11:52
  #9 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Somehwere nowhere
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yup, thats good enough.

You can do Sin, Tan, Cos as long as you have the necessary variables like Opp, Base and Hypo. values in distances.

Good Job.

So draw the Isoceles Triangle with coordinates. Be careful where A and B points will lie and which way you are traveling in the right Rhumb Line Direction and then once found out that, then find out Coordinate C which is really simple

If A was 45 N 010 W, B is 48*30**, 15*W then C which is the side between Opp and Base of the triangle would be 45N 15W.

Then find distances of A to C using Dep= dlong X 60 X cos lat = 212NM
A-B (Hypo side) = 298.4NM and B-C = 210 NM

Then use Tan, or Sin from Point A. I took Sin

Sin A = 210/298.4 = 44.8 Degrees

Add 44.8+ 270 (A-C direction is going from 10*W to 15*W so you are going West) = 315

Yash you did good, I was just giving alternative for others if they may be confused or never done CPL exams.
Pulkdahulk is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2011, 11:57
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Delhi
Age: 34
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Talking

Yash
livetokill22 is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2011, 12:18
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: india
Age: 34
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
@livetokill -

dude change your username , a pilot with a username live to kill is kind of scary

Jokes aside , as i saw your post in the Indigo forum , i'd just inform you similar to this quest was asked in indigo's exam .
yash is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2011, 12:25
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Delhi
Age: 34
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
lol gotta change the name!

yeah, thanks for the tip. Thats one less question I need to worry about when i give the indigo exam.
livetokill22 is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2011, 17:51
  #13 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Somehwere nowhere
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Assuming the maximum likely error in VOR to be 5.50
, what is the maximum distance apart that
beacons can be situated on the centre line of an airway in order that an aircraft can guarantee
remaining within the airway boundary?
a) 54.5 nm
b) 109 nm
c) 66 nm
d) 132 nm
Pulkdahulk is offline  
Old 22nd Apr 2011, 04:19
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Delhi
Age: 34
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The answer is 109nm, have seen the question in a book.
but don't know how they got 109nm

if someone could please elaborate.
Thanks!
livetokill22 is offline  
Old 22nd Apr 2011, 05:43
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: airport
Age: 34
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
guys which books are you reffering to....
planeboy_777 is offline  
Old 22nd Apr 2011, 05:45
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: airport
Age: 34
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
@ livetokill22

The answer is 109nm, have seen the question in a book.
but don't know how they got 109nm

if someone could please elaborate.
Thanks!

the airway width is 5 nm from center line .therefore at 5.5deg distance is = 5NM/Tan(5.50) = 51.92 NM the error is either + or - so 51.92x2= 103.85NM closest answer is 109NM.
planeboy_777 is offline  
Old 22nd Apr 2011, 06:17
  #17 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Somehwere nowhere
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nice!!

Oxford - Planeboy 777
Pulkdahulk is offline  
Old 22nd Apr 2011, 06:20
  #18 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Somehwere nowhere
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
An aircraft is tracking away from a VOR on a heading of 287°M with 14° starboard drift. If the variation is 6°W what is the phase difference between the reference and variable phase components of the VOR transmission:
a) 121°
b) 295
c) 301 °
d) 315
Pulkdahulk is offline  
Old 22nd Apr 2011, 06:41
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Delhi
Age: 34
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Is the answer A. 121?
livetokill22 is offline  
Old 22nd Apr 2011, 06:49
  #20 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Somehwere nowhere
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
An aircraft wishes to track towards a VOR along the 274 radial. If variation is 1O degree W what should be set on the OBS ?
a) 274
b) 264
c) 094
d) 084
Pulkdahulk is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.