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Old 8th Dec 2010, 06:24
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conversion of FROTOL

i submitted my papers for conversion in Oct for the permit.
however i received a letter today which mentions that my application has been returned on the basis of incomplete document. the list of the documents missing (all the documents) has been enclosed, sadly i have actually submitted all these documents
i will try to talk to the officers on phone. but has this happened to anyone before??
how did you deal with this?!
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Hi mate,

Are you converting the rtr(P) to rtr(A) ? if so can you tell me the forms you used?

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hey,
i am trying to convert the foreign rt (canadian+cpl) to get the Indian permit (RTR(P)).
i have submitted the annexure1, the AF1 form along with the dd, the photographs and foreign medical, license and rt.
i tried talking to them over phone, no luck here.
i guess will have to go to delhi.
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Hi guys,
Is it better to go for 20 years validity or lifetime for the RTR(p)?
Please suggest asap.
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I do not know what you exactly did because I got the Indian RT Permit in the same time. I did my Canadian CPL and RT in February but I submitted it in October and got it in November.

Okay, list me out the exact documents you gave in DETAIL

PM me if you like - Either could be the following reasons - You submitted the photocopy of your RT and not your Original Canadian RT which has the number on it, or you submitted the wrong form or the wrong demand draft or did not even submit the passport book you get for the Canadian CPL which is blue in color.

Please enlist the details and I will tell you what you missed -

Thanks
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You will get the validity for 5 years for CPL and RT based on canada for your Indian RT Permit. I tried for 5 years. As RT is based on CPL, your canada cpl is life time valid except it has got to be renewed every 5 years for flying and keeping your medical valid.

No, it is useless getting it for 20 years. To get the Indian License is fine, but sit for the first attempt which even my american citizen Indian friend sat and passed it so if he can pass why not all of you and once you do that, then you will get it for life time.
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hey guys ! im trying to convert my foreign FRTOL to indian . so under which category should i apply ? RTR(a) or RTR(P) and roughly how long does it take to get issued ?? .


these are the documents im gonna submit , jus lemme noe if i've missed anything

1.Foreign cpl with FRTOL
2.Foreign medical
3. 5 passport size photos with lite BG
4. DD
5.Passport copy with the visa stamp
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 08:38
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If Iam not mistaken you do NOT have to submit any originals. But you do need to submit attested copies of the CPL and the RT (medical not required). Also read the instructions carefully as they tell you what exactly needs to be attested.

Surely you do not want to part with your originals ....
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Hi again....
I am yet to apply for the Permit...though I have my Canadian cpl as well as RT.I was wondering,which option should I go for the 20 yrs or the lifetime validity....as stated on the WPC website.
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 08:46
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Rahul - The Orignal RT will have a license number on it, a photocopy of it is fine.

What I may think is that they take that RT license they get on the spot and submit that eventually without waiting for the Original - some cases have been of like that.

and so the rejection
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 08:52
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@Sakshi

As per my knowledge, for an RTR (P) the only option available is 20 years validity.
If you're applying for an RTR (A) you would have both options available to you, but you'll need to take the RTR (A) part I and part II exam for this.
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 08:58
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@sierra_november - I agree about that 20 years but the last four licenses that have been issued including mine was for 5 years. Now I got to go find out if that can be renewed or what


This because of the new book that Canada introduced for their CPL.
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 09:04
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I am only getting confused with this! The form says
20yrs validity- DD 5000
Lifetime val-DD10000
Since its the 'Permit' that is issued its not quite specified.
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 09:09
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Submit the 5,000 for 20 years

Earlier licenses from Canada did not had validity dates and so they were 20 years and now the newer ones have come out with validity dates that can be renewed after 5 years as Rahulred mentioned that these licenses are valid life time and keeping it current.

They say 20 years and I got 5 years along with my 3 other friends.
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 09:28
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I guess,I will go by your experience,since you had a first hand with them. Thanks a bunch...
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the best thing would be to apply with the canadian paper license coz it doesn't have a validity. i applied with the same and got for 20 years...
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No do not do that

WPC already knows about the new booklet. You will get rejected for not submitting that book copy and then you will get stuck with your licensing in a pursuit of 20 years
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In pursuit of happiness! or more torture!
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Old 3rd Jan 2011, 19:31
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hi to all,
the culprit i learnt about when i visited wpc was the document attestation. they want them to be attested by government officer only, an mbbs legally practicing doctor won't do. this was my problem. they sure would have saved me a hell lot of trouble by mentioning this in their letter or by answering my calls. oh another thing they DO NOT AND WILL NOT help you on phone no matter what.
lesson for all- make a trip to delhi and submit your documents personally had i done that i would have had my permit by now.
oh this also applies to the dgca documents.
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Old 4th Jan 2011, 16:37
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Hey guys, i know there has been alot of confusion regarding the rtr renewals n stuff. so i just wanted to get some insight on some things ya.

so basically i have a uk rt and an faa cpl. ive converted it and have an rtr (a) my rtr is expiring sometime in may this year. can anybody tell me what ecxactly needs to be done and where the forms can be gotten from coz i have heard various stories from various ppl so i am really confused. help wud be appreciated. thanks
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