RTR Validity Now 20yrs & Lifetime

[guitarboy]

AS PER THE WPC WEBSITE THE RTR ISSUED STARTING FROM THE HYDERABAD 2009 ATTEMPT WILL HAVE 2 OPTIONS OF VALIDITY - 20 YRS OR LIFETIME.

Rs. 5k for 20 yrs & 10k for Lifetime (err. uptil you are 80 yrs old)

All previous RTR holders will get this option when they go in for renewal.

Finally a relief. After 1 renewal never going back for that Fu****g exam again!

I think this is only valid for RTR(A)'z.. Ive got RTR(A) so no worries fo me but for the others ....dnnow about the ones who Converted.. i.e The RTR(P)'z..
anybody got an idea?.

[jimmygill]

Rs. 5k for 20 yrs & 10k for Lifetime (err. uptil you are 80 yrs old)
All previous RTR holders will get this option when they go in for renewal.

Finally a relief. After 1 renewal never going back for that Fu****g exam again!
I think this is only valid for RTR(A)'z.. Ive got RTR(A) so no worries fo me but for the others ....dnnow about the ones who Converted.. i.e The RTR(P)'z..
anybody got an idea?

I understand the additional 'relief' is in terms of not having to do more paperwork again. Even as per the earlier policy one never needed to appear for exam again for renewal.


License fee of INR 5k for 20 year and INR 10k uptil age of 80, poses an interesting question which option is cheaper in long term?

[captain-planet]

Goodmorning Boyzzzzzz

[guitarboy]

@jimmy.. as far as i know.. we' had to give Part 1 again for RTR Renewal! plus have 30 hours etc.. so that ways relief! Paperwork! Well yeah that too

[silent_scream]

As per the WPC Circular,

Issue of RTR (Conversion) and RTR (Permit) and their renewals shall be for a period of 20 years, or till the validity of FRTOL / CPL which ever is earlier

A smart move indeed. Since no CPL is going to be valid more than 5 years. So the RTR will be up for renewal every 5 years. But the diplomatic clause offers 20 years.

Although a certain relief for RTR (A) holders.

[jimmygill]

@guitarboy

I was under impression we don't have to take the Part 1 exam if we have the required recent experience. In case one didn't have the required recent experience, one must retake the part 1 exam to get the renewal.

Of course its a relief as compared to renewal every 5 year. 20 years validity is way better than the current.

Upto 80 years age is a more generous idea, but should have made it lifetime instead, anyways COP-RTR is a requirement for commercial flight and pilots cannot fly after 65th b'day, one doesn't need COP-RTR for private flying.



What I sincerely hope is that they change the renewal criteria also. And the renewal criteria should be just an application and fee, no experience requirement. Otherwise it can be termed unfair and irresponsible way of licensing.

Consider two applicants A and B, on January 2010 both got the COP-RTR. A paid for 20 years and B for a lifetime. Afterwards A got into an airliner and actively used radio-telephony, while B never got a chance to use radio-telephony for next 20 years.

As expected in January 2030 A will lose his privileges while B will still be having all the privileges of the license he paid for. Person A now needs to renew his license, now to be fair to A there should be no requirements of recent experience for renewal, or any need to appear for any exam.

I wish DGCA comes with such offers, you pay 1000 rs for exam instead of regular 500 rs and your exam will be valid for 5 years instead of 2.5 years.

[guitarboy]

@jimmy - the recent experience at a station i.e. 30 hrs is required just to be eligible for the exam. then we have to give part 1 again to successfully pass the renewal.

So as i have RTR(A), now when i go for renewal, im getting the lifetime rtr for shure cuz i hate wpc and dont ever wanna see em again! ever in my "LIFETIME" lol

But i feel asking for 30 hrs to renew a RTR is asking for too much! ESP in the Current scenario as there are no jobs and CPL'z are piling up!!

@silentscream - hey your forgot to put "silent" at the end of your post!

[avalanche007]

@silent stream

well canadian cpl is valid for lifetime
however their new booklet is valid for 5 years

[silent_scream]

@ avalanche007, if the License is valid for Lifetime, but the paper that it is printed on is valid for 5 years, how do we go about proposing to WPC that the license is valid for lifetime when the document in their hand has a expiry date ?

[avalanche007]

so the best thing is if u have the paper licence then u r safe
well in my case i have a paper licence and then a booklet was issued
and i think for most of them till now also paper licence is issued and then the booklet is issued
and ya convincing wpc is great deal
but then one guy got his rtr(p) for 20 years on behalf of his canadian cpl and frtol.

[captain-planet]

@guitarboy

as to what i was told by wpc, i jst have to give the part1 once.. nd den b eligible for renewal evry 3 yrs (ie the 30 hrs that u are talkin abt)
dats all.

[CaptDG]

@ avalanche007

i have the new aviation document booklet from TC and that's valid for 5 years. ofcourse i still possess the paper licenses too. would it be possible to apply for the "20yrs" RTR(P) renewal with the paper license itself?
also where can i find the form of application for the same?
help will be much appreciated.
DG

[avalanche007]

hi
well yes u can apply with anything either the paper cpl or the booklet cpl
u will get for 20 years
and also u can find the forms on wpc site itself
here is the link

rtr form

[CaptDG]

thanks alot.

[rig73alok]

What about those guy who does not hold RTR(A) and hold RTR(P) or RTR(C). Are they eligible for 20yr renewal on the basis of 30 hours flying or not or they need to appear again in RTR part 1 exam after 3 years ???

[avalanche007]

well i can comment on rtr(p)
if u have it then u r eligible for renewal for 20 yrs
u need not give any exams for it
its again a direct renewal

[RterO]

so what is the procedure for renewal of rtr(p) to 20years. do i have to sit for an exam or is it direct? please help me out.

thank you

[avalanche007]

its direct
just fill up ur forms and apply to wpc

[FlyingManutd]

The issue of RTR (C) or RTR (P) will be of max of 20 yrs or Till the validity of ur foreign FRTOL/CPL.. validty will depend on which ever is earlier....u just need to fill up the form and will get RTR(P).


If u have CPL for 5 yrs but FRTOL for 20 yrs u wil get RTR(P) on validity of CPL...ie ur RTR(P) will be valid till ur CPL date.But if u have CPL valid for lifetime but FRTOL for 5 yrs u will RTR(P) on valdity of FRTOL.

If u have cleared Part 1 ....ur RTR(C) will have validity till ur FRTOL date.

If u have cleared Both Part 1&2....u have option of 20 yrs or lifetime...and will get RTR(A).

[nikhilheb]

With quite some difficulty, i passed the RTR(A) exam in mumabi in Feb 2010. Applied for the lifetime license sometime in May, but still have no information regarding the status of the application. Has anyone who applied somewhere around the same time received their license? Any information regarding the same would be helpful.

Thanks!