Singapore Cargo Rumours (early 2010)
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SQC question
Hi Patty,
just wondering if expats pay local tax in Sin - i guess we have to deduct that from the 10k advertised starting salary...also, how many nights can i expect to spend away from base in a typical month? Thanks for any info, happy landings!
just wondering if expats pay local tax in Sin - i guess we have to deduct that from the 10k advertised starting salary...also, how many nights can i expect to spend away from base in a typical month? Thanks for any info, happy landings!
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tax
Yes you have to pay tax about 10%.
The pattern are normally 8 to 14 days.
You can not thrust the roster at all.
I am very happy that I have left and so are my family, it is not a good employer to work for according me.
The pattern are normally 8 to 14 days.
You can not thrust the roster at all.
I am very happy that I have left and so are my family, it is not a good employer to work for according me.
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SIA Cargo B744F Sim Profile
I have a screening in Nov for Ca B744F for SIA Cargo. I am Type Rated B744 with 9 yrs on type.
Does anyone have any information about the Sim (profiles etc.) and the interview questions etc.?
Any info appreciated.
Cheers,
Nomad
Does anyone have any information about the Sim (profiles etc.) and the interview questions etc.?
Any info appreciated.
Cheers,
Nomad
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Interview is very friendly with little or no technical questions. Provided you can fly a steep turn in the sim you will be ok but make sure all your paperwork is perfect before you arrive.
Tax is 10% provided you qualify for Not Ordinarily Resident status. After 5 years you will pay full SIN income tax which puts your monthly tax bill up by about $1000
We have lots of pilots reading the back pages of 'Flight' with a great deal of interest at the moment. I really cant see a significant pay rise in the near future so turnover and training costs will remain high for the next year or so.
Tax is 10% provided you qualify for Not Ordinarily Resident status. After 5 years you will pay full SIN income tax which puts your monthly tax bill up by about $1000
We have lots of pilots reading the back pages of 'Flight' with a great deal of interest at the moment. I really cant see a significant pay rise in the near future so turnover and training costs will remain high for the next year or so.
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Hi All.
Just trying to get to grips with the monthly flying done at SQ Cargo.
Do I understand corrrectly to expect 50 to 65 hrs of stick time , but potentially another 30 hrs on top of that positioning ?
Desparately looking for an outfit that has less flying than the current flogging I am getting in the middle east ( 90 +hrs a month, multiple time zones,night turnarounds et etc , simulator and ground school duties excluded , factoring of hours ie bunk time does not count) , taking my total ( on aeroplanes , in the bunk included) to 940 hrs in 12 months. With no sign of it letting up. Just not sustainable and taking its toll on health and family.
Also got two kids to consider , but would rather be around a few more years at a lower package than shorten my life at the current rate.
" We spend our health gaining wealth , only to spend our wealth to regain our health ! "
If someone at SQ C could advise how many hours they average a month , a year . ( Stick and paxing) , would be greatly appreciated.
Just trying to get to grips with the monthly flying done at SQ Cargo.
Do I understand corrrectly to expect 50 to 65 hrs of stick time , but potentially another 30 hrs on top of that positioning ?
Desparately looking for an outfit that has less flying than the current flogging I am getting in the middle east ( 90 +hrs a month, multiple time zones,night turnarounds et etc , simulator and ground school duties excluded , factoring of hours ie bunk time does not count) , taking my total ( on aeroplanes , in the bunk included) to 940 hrs in 12 months. With no sign of it letting up. Just not sustainable and taking its toll on health and family.
Also got two kids to consider , but would rather be around a few more years at a lower package than shorten my life at the current rate.
" We spend our health gaining wealth , only to spend our wealth to regain our health ! "
If someone at SQ C could advise how many hours they average a month , a year . ( Stick and paxing) , would be greatly appreciated.
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You'll get less stick time in SQC, that's for sure. I'm right now averaging about 55 hours. Add to that about 30-40 hours paxing.
But, if you don't like multiple time zones.. this is not for you. We do SIN-HKG-ANC-ATL-BRU-SHJ-SIN or similar in 8-14 days. Stay in SIN 3-4 days and then off again. Or the other way around. Not many turn arounds but a night SIN-PVG followed by PVG-SIN the next night is bad enough.
Many flights are "augmented" with an extra F/O which means nothing because they can't sit in your seat so you still have to stay there all night. But with SQ and CAAS logic this means you are less tired and can do a couple of more hours.
And, even if you say you can accept lower pay, take a good look at the numbers. EK:s first officers package is better than the captains package here.
But, if you don't like multiple time zones.. this is not for you. We do SIN-HKG-ANC-ATL-BRU-SHJ-SIN or similar in 8-14 days. Stay in SIN 3-4 days and then off again. Or the other way around. Not many turn arounds but a night SIN-PVG followed by PVG-SIN the next night is bad enough.
Many flights are "augmented" with an extra F/O which means nothing because they can't sit in your seat so you still have to stay there all night. But with SQ and CAAS logic this means you are less tired and can do a couple of more hours.
And, even if you say you can accept lower pay, take a good look at the numbers. EK:s first officers package is better than the captains package here.
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SQC FO
The ad for DEFO is on SQC website probably few weeks already. Are they flooded with applications? Can I guess a Rough take home FO salary for 50 hours around SGD9k ?
And English proficiency level 6 required? at level 5 i m not good enough lol
Update, can anyone please provide newly hired fo salary on LOCAL term. Thinking of applying with 4.5kTT majority 737 hrs.
And English proficiency level 6 required? at level 5 i m not good enough lol
Update, can anyone please provide newly hired fo salary on LOCAL term. Thinking of applying with 4.5kTT majority 737 hrs.
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Hello everybody,
The same kind of questions as azlee_19 here..
as well as...The DEFO position is a on local terms only. Can somebody maybe tell me
what the difference is with an expat DEFO contract? Also as a DEFO is
there a chance of upgrading, or is it a PFO position like e.g. KAL?
If yes...how long took it in the past?
Anything useful would be appreciated.
THX
The same kind of questions as azlee_19 here..
as well as...The DEFO position is a on local terms only. Can somebody maybe tell me
what the difference is with an expat DEFO contract? Also as a DEFO is
there a chance of upgrading, or is it a PFO position like e.g. KAL?
If yes...how long took it in the past?
Anything useful would be appreciated.
THX
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Talks between ALPA S and SIA Cargo about Service Increments for 2009 and 2010 have just broken down according to an email I have received.
A word of caution to potential new joiners. If you are married with children and sign a training bond for 5 years and 8 months it can feel like a prison sentence after a few months.
There are much better jobs out there.
A word of caution to potential new joiners. If you are married with children and sign a training bond for 5 years and 8 months it can feel like a prison sentence after a few months.
There are much better jobs out there.
Amazing how the old wheel is still being reinvented. Read the same stuff when thinking of joining SIAC some years back. Good thing I didn't take much notice; turned out (arguably) to be the best flying job going.
Great aircraft, great destinations, nice layovers, good team in the office, nice profit share bonus (5 months basic one year). Sure, lot of positioning some months, but generally in SQ first class with lots of Dom Perignon to ease the pain (no pay for positioning).
Just a pity that Lehman Brothers put a stop to it at the time...
Great aircraft, great destinations, nice layovers, good team in the office, nice profit share bonus (5 months basic one year). Sure, lot of positioning some months, but generally in SQ first class with lots of Dom Perignon to ease the pain (no pay for positioning).
Just a pity that Lehman Brothers put a stop to it at the time...
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Over 75% of my positioning has been in EY of a B777. Usually SIN-AMS which is 13 hours.
Only 32 days leave each year. If you have children and want to take some of your leave while your children are also on holiday it can be very difficult. And staff travel - what staff travel?
HR are definitely trying to come down hard on terms and conditions. No profit share last year, only 2 weeks the year before and I think that the budget transfer from Cargo to Mainline when we acquire 2 BCFs from them will be justified by management as an excuse to seriously hurt next years profit share. The last increase in basic pay was in 2008 and there has been no increase to per diems or productivity pay in over 6 years. Inflation in SIN is 4%.
Yes, the 74F is a great airplane and we do see some interesting destinations, usually only for long enough to try to sleep and then continue immediately to another interesting destination though. There are some good guys in the office and out on the line but basic salary, child education allowance, annual leave and staff travel need to be seriously improved if SIA Cargo is to lose its low cost label.
Its not quite the worst job out there (arguably) but its not what SIA Cargo advertises itself to be either. Don't get locked into a punitive 5 years 8 month bond here unless you have no other choices would be my advice.
Only 32 days leave each year. If you have children and want to take some of your leave while your children are also on holiday it can be very difficult. And staff travel - what staff travel?
HR are definitely trying to come down hard on terms and conditions. No profit share last year, only 2 weeks the year before and I think that the budget transfer from Cargo to Mainline when we acquire 2 BCFs from them will be justified by management as an excuse to seriously hurt next years profit share. The last increase in basic pay was in 2008 and there has been no increase to per diems or productivity pay in over 6 years. Inflation in SIN is 4%.
Yes, the 74F is a great airplane and we do see some interesting destinations, usually only for long enough to try to sleep and then continue immediately to another interesting destination though. There are some good guys in the office and out on the line but basic salary, child education allowance, annual leave and staff travel need to be seriously improved if SIA Cargo is to lose its low cost label.
Its not quite the worst job out there (arguably) but its not what SIA Cargo advertises itself to be either. Don't get locked into a punitive 5 years 8 month bond here unless you have no other choices would be my advice.
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Clondnine
Air China Cargo
From reading all these posts, it seems to me like you guys should all be joining Air China Cargo. Nice roster, good days off in a row(once we do 80 hrs, easily done within about 18 days), great salary and allowances. Beijing is a nice friendly place to live. This is the easiest job I have ever had. So far, after almost four years, I have yet to see a downside. Certainly there are none of my colleagues bitching or writing on PPRuNe badly about this package. Best kept secret in aviation is now heavily advertising in Flight as we have 5 CX 400s coming within the next 6 months.
Okay then, I bite.
Your post is a bit too positive, however..
What is a nice roster? Average length, a few examples perhaps.
When do you get your roster and for how long?
What are good days off in between? How many days do you get on average, what is the minimum?
4 years and no downside yet, hmmmmm.....
Last thing I heard is you are getting 1 CX400 because you cannot crew the others, oh so nobody there nobody bitching, that makes kind of sense.
So much for best known secret then.
Good luck in your little office.
Oh yeah, one more thing: "Do you wear hats?"
Cheers
White Hat
From reading all these posts, it seems to me like you guys should all be joining Air China Cargo. Nice roster, good days off in a row(once we do 80 hrs, easily done within about 18 days), great salary and allowances. Beijing is a nice friendly place to live. This is the easiest job I have ever had. So far, after almost four years, I have yet to see a downside. Certainly there are none of my colleagues bitching or writing on PPRuNe badly about this package. Best kept secret in aviation is now heavily advertising in Flight as we have 5 CX 400s coming within the next 6 months.
Okay then, I bite.
Your post is a bit too positive, however..
What is a nice roster? Average length, a few examples perhaps.
When do you get your roster and for how long?
What are good days off in between? How many days do you get on average, what is the minimum?
4 years and no downside yet, hmmmmm.....
Last thing I heard is you are getting 1 CX400 because you cannot crew the others, oh so nobody there nobody bitching, that makes kind of sense.
So much for best known secret then.
Good luck in your little office.
Oh yeah, one more thing: "Do you wear hats?"
Cheers
White Hat
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How does the onld saying go? : "if something sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't true" or something to that effect
On another thread it is alleged that said poster is also one of the official recruiters for his "perfect job".
On another thread it is alleged that said poster is also one of the official recruiters for his "perfect job".
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money money money
i know this is ridiculous : as i dont have money for bank guarantee, can i put my house for it?
if they want pilots to show them the money, they should pay the them more considering the extent people gone to raise those greens ( and not being able to use them up for 5.5 yrs?)
if they want pilots to show them the money, they should pay the them more considering the extent people gone to raise those greens ( and not being able to use them up for 5.5 yrs?)