ATR-72 Off runway Bombay
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ATR-72 Off runway Bombay
Just seen reported a ATR-72 has gone off the end of the runway at Bombay, its seem that it landed long in wet weather.
Also the aircraft is lying on its wing no other info at this time
Hopefully everyone is OK
Also the aircraft is lying on its wing no other info at this time
Hopefully everyone is OK
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ATR off the end??? My - that isn't just a long landing - that's landing at the very end
Both runways are long in BOM and even in the wet an ATR72 pulls up quickly once you back the props!!
Both runways are long in BOM and even in the wet an ATR72 pulls up quickly once you back the props!!
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Kingfisher ATR-72 with 38 pax all safe has just been reported.
Aircraft landed in rain and low vis this evening, nose gear deep in mud and left wing down.
Too early to say whether the gear collapsed or because of the skid into the mud.
Aircraft landed in rain and low vis this evening, nose gear deep in mud and left wing down.
Too early to say whether the gear collapsed or because of the skid into the mud.
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Having visited BOM (as pax) mny times in the last copule of years I wonder why the airport continues to operate on 27 and 14 in significant tail winds- watched a 737 take off on 14 with 10kts tailwind last time.
Rarely is 09 used and even more rarely 32 - I don't think I've ever seen a 32 departure.
Rarely is 09 used and even more rarely 32 - I don't think I've ever seen a 32 departure.
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So , if 14 closed , how did ATR go off end then ?
I am going there later tonight , is the place closed ?
Talking about tailwinds , ATC there are very clever at giving us tailwinds of 9 knots , which is never the case when you touchdown . Good idea to use max flaps and autobrake at all times .
I am going there later tonight , is the place closed ?
Talking about tailwinds , ATC there are very clever at giving us tailwinds of 9 knots , which is never the case when you touchdown . Good idea to use max flaps and autobrake at all times .
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guys lets wait for the actuals...
lets wait for the actual reports..due to major works r/w 14/32 is closed for three months..runway intersection is closed on tuesdays..so the r/w 27/09 is only very short if usable for tuesday from 12-1800 hrs local time..
on tuesdays.. mumbai..27 is a very short runway..no ILS.. due WIP. only 5700 feet long... wet runway conditions.. tailwinds...
lucky all pax are safe..
on tuesdays.. mumbai..27 is a very short runway..no ILS.. due WIP. only 5700 feet long... wet runway conditions.. tailwinds...
lucky all pax are safe..
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Not sure if tailwind was a factor in this case,but VABB has a serious OCD(Obsessive Compulsive Disorder)about 27,even with tailwinds approching(and sometimes exceeding)10kts.
For some unfathomable reason 09 never seems to enter the picture in their scheme of things.(many years ago someone landed at JUHU when 09 had no ILS)
They have a grand 10 year improvement plan.....but not a single rapid exit planned for 09.
Sometimes it just takes one moron,to prevent progress in the right direction.
Airlines operating out of VABB need to dig further and insist on better operational control at the ATC
For some unfathomable reason 09 never seems to enter the picture in their scheme of things.(many years ago someone landed at JUHU when 09 had no ILS)
They have a grand 10 year improvement plan.....but not a single rapid exit planned for 09.
Sometimes it just takes one moron,to prevent progress in the right direction.
Airlines operating out of VABB need to dig further and insist on better operational control at the ATC
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Fro MSN news on the incident:
Mumbai: A Kingfisher Airlines ATR-72 aircraft skidded off the runway Tuesday evening while landing at the Mumbai airport, officials said. The airlines has ordered a probe into the incident.
The aircraft carried 42 passengers and four crew members, and there are no casualties, a spokesman for the airlines said Tuesday evening.
Pending the inquiry into the incident which happened around 4.30 p.m., the airlines has de-rostered the pilots of the aircraft, the spokesman added.
The Bhavnagar-Mumbai flight IT-4124, landed at Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport where visibility was low due to rains and cloudy skies since early Tuesday morning.
On Tuesdays, only half the main runway is used and only smaller aircraft are allowed to operate between 12 noon and 6 p.m. to facilitate maintenance and repair of the runway, as announced last month by the airport authorities.
A spokesman for Kingfisher Airlines said the cause of the incident is not yet known. But he denied that a fire broke out in the aircraft due to the skidding.
On account of the incident, a few flights scheduled for departure Tuesday evening were delayed.
Source: Indo-Asian News Service
The aircraft carried 42 passengers and four crew members, and there are no casualties, a spokesman for the airlines said Tuesday evening.
Pending the inquiry into the incident which happened around 4.30 p.m., the airlines has de-rostered the pilots of the aircraft, the spokesman added.
The Bhavnagar-Mumbai flight IT-4124, landed at Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport where visibility was low due to rains and cloudy skies since early Tuesday morning.
On Tuesdays, only half the main runway is used and only smaller aircraft are allowed to operate between 12 noon and 6 p.m. to facilitate maintenance and repair of the runway, as announced last month by the airport authorities.
A spokesman for Kingfisher Airlines said the cause of the incident is not yet known. But he denied that a fire broke out in the aircraft due to the skidding.
On account of the incident, a few flights scheduled for departure Tuesday evening were delayed.
Source: Indo-Asian News Service
When will we learn (prejudging the outcome of any investigation).
Many overrun accidents involve wet runways and tailwinds – several reports on the subject.
See http://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/874.ppt - “You can always say No”; and if VABB ATC say otherwise; then there is a safety lesson for everyone.
Many overrun accidents involve wet runways and tailwinds – several reports on the subject.
See http://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/874.ppt - “You can always say No”; and if VABB ATC say otherwise; then there is a safety lesson for everyone.
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I know the ATR72 very well - and 5700' wet runway with a tailwind is still not an issue!! Maybe there's more to this such as tech problems too??
what were the winds like ?
Low Altitude wind shear may be ... leading to correction and subsequent hydroplanning.. ??
I am currently unable to think of an tech failure that will actually make that bird skid of the runway..
1. I only hope the crew come out clean from it.. (who ever they may be)
2. I only hope the bird can go back up there again..
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Here is a photo as appeared on planepictures.net.
Photo Kingfisher Airlines Aerospatiale ATR-72 VT-KAC
Hope everyone pulls through this . VABB runways are far from being exemplary in good weather let alone in the prevailing conditions at the time.
Photo Kingfisher Airlines Aerospatiale ATR-72 VT-KAC
Hope everyone pulls through this . VABB runways are far from being exemplary in good weather let alone in the prevailing conditions at the time.