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Old 13th Nov 2008, 15:22
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Sri Lankan Air Lines Instructors

Guys do you all know any news about the ad and the candidates on instructor selection?
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The instructor selected once. Will depend on how you performed as shown below.

The question.

How much is 2 + 2 =?

The once who answered 4. ( Failed) confirmed no more instructing in UL any more.

The once who answered 5. (Failed) You may get another shy in 2 yrs.

The once who answered. You (Management) tell me what to write. ( Passed with flying colours). You are definitely selected.

We can see the standards of our instructors. Specially, what the highest one did a few weeks ago.

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The highest one put an A330 off the runway in VOMM. The latest, his Instructor rating suspended. This was a few weeks ago.
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Snoop Sri Lankan Air Lines Instructors

Is it true the baby general Ranathunge is trying to run the show? He wants to put his chuck golaya's in. I and D the batman of DP KDK has applied.
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Look whose talking....

Either way guys all those smart pilots who left for greener pasture are now interested in the motherland and it's airline and are now willing to give up their kushy life style and money and come and save the failing countries airline!! Ha,ha, the biggest laugh....this is what it feels like to be kicked in the ass....so we have to now say oh guys! we missed you please come back and save us from MR DP SJ and so on......you were the cream who left so let's whipp up the cream and make this airline viable after all these years.

Good luck to all the specials.............well there was one goat who said he will never come back and is eating his words now...SJ might put his foot in the mouth here too.
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The best joke of the day is although DP's intructor rating is removed by DGCA he still can perform as a sim instructor. Even the credibility of the instructors are degraded to the lowest.
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Talking about credibility. Some never had. They grabbed this for the money. Who ever is good with the top got it. That's the bigggest dammage MR did. Now even worst.If DP can behave like this at this stage. Immagine how he will be later with long career ahead?
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SK

looks like the 'wannabe actor SK' is bitter with those who took up the challenge elsewhere! One needn't be a smartass to venture out I bet but some guts is certainly required when leaving a permanent job for an expat.............but things have changed since.........perhaps SK is unaware of the financial crisis that had a domino effect? Has he also lost track of the fact that UL still has many expats and that it's always better to have our own guys back especially when your Company is suffering a severe cashflow problem?
Cheer up man, your job is secure as long as UL is run on a good foundation and its costs kept down.....and you can't do that if you encourage hiring more expats........unless ofcourse you happen to be a batman for the management.
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Moderate,

Thats funny you say that expats are more expensive when we get paid the same as locals, unlike what you get paid at KF. Cost to company for an expat is double that of a local in India.
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DP's Instructor rating suspension is only a tempo act. As you know the CAASL is run by UL and the same goones. Once the talk fizzles off DP will be back with his tricks.

DP knows how to butter both sides.
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Thats funny you say that expats are more expensive when we get paid the same as loca

JunkBus U got it wrong there mate.
U can't compare the packages by comparing the salaries only.......that's comparing apples to oranges. By the way try not to forget that there's a thing called taxes too where the local boys help to fill the govt coffers.....right or wrong as it may seem. . Moderate is not THERE but HERE with you and have no such intentions though having no grudges either.......
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He can try to butter, Still he has to dance and prove in front of everybody. Looks like MR having the remote in his hand he finds it difficult. On top of it Puk Karu now going behind HE reminding his cricketing days with him and slowly trying to creap in has become another problem. All are fighting to hold on to this job.
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RE...Coolguy

Well said newagebird in regards to Coolguys comments!




I remember a few months ago around May, in the last intake Coolguy made similar scurrilous comments here regarding his opinions of "disloyal and unpatriotic" Sri Lankans who leave the country for greener pastures before his comments were deleted from the thread.

He has no real idea how tough life can be abroad for expats and what people have to go through to get to where they want to get to. It is certainly not a bed of roses, easy loans etc. His comments are born more out of professional jealousy and a lack of confidence in his ability to gain employment with UL. Being one of a handful of CPL holders in Sri Lanka and being born in Sri Lanka should not be an automatic right to gaining employment within the UL regardless of who you are, as it should really be about your attitude as an individual and your capabilities as a pilot. As I understand it, with UL they only select the best possible candidates based upon aptitude, experience and above all the correct attitude. At times the limited number of appropriately qualified local pilots has led the airline to employ more experienced expats for more experienced positions. This is normal. This is also the case with some of the biggest airlines and in a sense the system used at UL is no different to the systems employed at Cathy, SIA, Qantas or BA. It appears as though Coolguy lacks any of these a fore mentioned attributes and is just prepared to knock down those who have been lucky enough to get in.

It is pointless debating your stance on such matters here as your opinions are probably based out of frustration and jealousy and a lack of understanding of the real world and as such your arguments lack any real focus, and as a result Malli are meaningless. You claim that any Lankan born abroad is less of a Lankan than you, when we are as loyal and as patriotic to the nation and the many things that it stands for and fights for. We may grow up as Ozzies, Canadian, American or Brits but we regard ourselves as being Sri lanakans first and foremost and we would like to see nothing better than OUR nation maximize its full potential and its people do well. Most of us are born speaking the language and have strong ties with Sri Lanka having spent our formative lives there, and as a result our first thought is always Sri Lanka (this is closely followed by Ammas bath and parippu!!).

What you also fail to understand about those who left Sri Lanka in the 70's/80's is that they left because they wanted to gain experience and return their again one day when the political or economic situation improved. This is the case with people from many backgrounds from the most brilliant minds in any given professional field (engineering,law, banking, medicine, etc) or to a laborer in the Middle East. In order for any nation to develop its skills it may at some point it may have to gain knowledge and experience from other regions especially if a country does not have opportunities or jobs in this area. This was the case in the Middle East when they discovered oil and in India with the recent economic boom. these people are known as economic migrants and will mostly return home one day.

You should also be grateful that anybody who is coming to work in Sri Lanka will be a tax payer (just like you) and will enhance the country and economy. We do not come as leeches or opportunists because we cannot find work elsewhere as for most of us it is a choice and something we want to do.

You are also a huge fraud and a hypocrite and you claim that any Lankan who leaves Sri Lanka is less loyal to the country;

"because they dont need SRILANKA"

when you yourself in previous posts made on Pprune have enquired into the possibility of employment with other airlines abroad.

http://www.pprune.org/flight-ground-...ml#post1984464

http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/18...ml#post2150653

It even seems that you have even dreamed of selling your soul to EK!

http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/19...ml#post2136372

So what does this make you ...? Are you as bad as me or am I only as good as you? How are you any different to any other appropriately qualified individual looking for work or are you yourself a disloyal Lankan as any expat Lankan living abroad? Judging by your previous posts you yourself would jump at the chance at leaving Lanka if BA, Cathy or SIA came knocking so malli please do not be so quick to judge others.

Also you assume that we do not pay tax in Lanka or we do not contribute in any way when most families have investments, businesses and property back home and have funded or contribute heavily to the education and well being of our families. This is primarily with the intention and commitment of developing our country through our own social and familial responsibilities. This is something that you may or may have not benefited from personally via an Auntie or an Uncle at some point. Do you mention to them that they are some sort economic traitor or disloyal Lankan when you see them or do you say thank Auntie for the gifts?

Further globalisation will lead to the world becoming an even smaller place and although I understand that you may be frustrated and that any country should look after its own, it is pointless telling everybody that you are more Sri Lankan than the next person as you come across like some sort of ignorant goddeya. You should also understand that you comments are embarrassing and somewhat off point and you do not really give a good impression of the airline and its nations people to any foreigner reading these posts who is looking to come to Sri Lanka as you come across as nothing more than a little insular. This is when most Lankans living abroad have the ability to communicate and mix well in in most diverse communities around the world.

What I suggest is that instead of hating, bitching and moaning about the lack of opportunities and "foreigners coming over here to take our jobs" you should concentrate on getting the appropriate qualifications and working hard on your application. After all anything is possible if you put your mind to it. I am guessing that even if you had the the appropriate qualifications you would probably moan about exam papers and applicants being preselected based upon who they know etc. There are many well connected people who have applied in the past and failed, so stop moaning and get on with it. To suggest this is to say that most of the pilot fraternity at UL are not appropriately qualified and is offensive when some of the pilots are as good if not better than most and can hold their own in any airline. Many of whom move onto other airlines and fly the flag there.( I refer you to the two Lankan EK pilots who took delivery of one of the first A380’s) Stop being hung up on the many things that you can't control and don't know and concentrate on what you can do and can affect which will only ultimately be yourself. Even the ex air force guys with turbine time can get a job in another airline and gain experience as most pilots around the worlds tend to do.

(Newagebird I don't know you but I know that you must be laughing at the this right now give the crap and racism that any "foreigner" has to go through from time to time in our adopted birth places!)


Sorry for the rant but some things need to be said.

Best of luck and safe landings to all.


My work is done here.



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Hmmmmm............a hot debate it may be but the word 'patriotic' or 'patriotism' is badly misplaced and loosely used by most people these days. I wonder if they have heard of the Sinhala proverb that goes on to say.........when hungry that some people would see a kabaragoya as a thalagoya.
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All these kabaragoyas thought about their mother land only when they realised that they are nothing in their country amongst the whites in aviation. They are here for the rating and experience only. It has proved already with the few who left and the other few who are waiting. Its only the pass port and the accent. The colour is still the same.
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Hey Pukkhan your location appears to be uk. Could you be taking all that a foreign country has to offer whilst criticising others ? There are sri lankan born pilots flying in airlines all over the world, as well as working in all other professions all over the world and doing very well, and very good luck to them! There are Sri Lankans working in all countries in the world in all professions, whilst locals are out of work. What makes you think sri lanka is so special that expats should not be allowed to fly, or work in any other profession for that matter?? There is so much jealousy, whining and racsim on the all of the sri lankan threads, it is unbelievable! If there are expats working it is because you do not have locals to fill those posts.Stop whining, get your head down and try to make the grade.If you don't make it don't blame others.We don't all get to do what we want to do in this life.Get real, if you don't want expats working in your airline or country then you should stay at home and not enjoy the fruits of another country! We are all human and want to get on and do what's best for our selves and our families,that includes you, so don't pretend that you are any different from any one else. Sometimes that means leaving our homes , as you seem to have done.I hope you enjoy UK and do well in what ever you choose to do, but just get on with your life without making stupid comments about others achievements

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Tropaco and FlyMeToTheStars,

Well its about time somebody finally spoke up about the constant negative comments targeted at the national airline and its pilots. Well done to you sir! We all know that Sri Lanka as a whole has been and is still being ruined by greedy individuals who think only of themselves and those close to them. Corruption, greed and favoring people through contacts as apposed to individual capabilities and skill alone is all too common but its a fact of life and as a developing country something we will have to over come to truly grow as a nation. The industry we work in is common to the practice of 'contacts' just look at the job market. However this happens not only in Sri Lanka but many countries all over the world.

Everytime I read a thread about Sri Lankan airlines on pprune its constantly filled with negative comments on how bad the situation is and personal attacks on individual management members or pilots. Its like a plague! With the moderators having to step in closing threads and banning people.

I sympathise heavily with the difficulties faced by pilots in the airline alot down to the bad individual apples in the company but lets try and talk about it in a professional way instead of the rubbish talk we are all becoming too used to seeing in a thread with the word Sri Lankan in the title!! If you have nothing good/constructive to say then don't say anything!

There's no surprise why the airline is not going anywhere its constantly talked about in a negative way. We have had some great years as an airline and many great pilots to show for it. Many expats who have worked for the airline have had good things to say but the few people on pprune who comment on the Sri Lankan threads just seem to use it as a hobby to slate the airline and its workforce.

Get a grip! If you are Sri Lankan then have some professionalism about the way you talk. Even if what you say is true no one will respect you or your comments with the way you talk and post.

Don't get me wrong I know the airline has got a long way to go and there are many issues to resolve the same goes for many things in the country but we are not alone in the fight to make a successful national airline, many countries are fighting this battle.

Like Tropaco and FlyMeToTheStars said get your head down and work hard to do your part! There are many ways to make this airline successful (apart from go on about getting rid of bad apples in the company, especially because we don't have control over such things), what we must do is focus on what we as individuals can do to make the airline work and grow and have pride in our jobs and the national airline. It is after all by choice we are all here and there are many that would love to be doing it.

Good Luck to all those trying to make Sri Lankan airlines a world class airline.

AkA.

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How can you do all this. It has already happened. Instructor interviews are already conducted and decided the way they wanted. Baby general the Ranathunge has done it again. He has prepared the question bank and passed it to the panel to ask from that. At the same time he has given his to his followers too. Jayasekera the pervert has done well thanks to this and had told his father to give a promotion to Ranathunge brother for that. Nothing has changed. And will never because they own this Air Line.
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Sad to see you have taken absolutely nothing on board that anyone has tried to say to you here.I guess there is no hope that you will ever have a professional attitude,and will continue to portray your airline and countrymen in such a bad light.The sad thing is that you don't realise that it is your self that you are also bringing down.Let's hope a vigilant moderator bans you.It's disgraceful that you are naming people here, whatever your views and knowledge of the situation is.

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Fly me to the stars

Truth hurts my friend. If you are one of them and if not if you are one of their friends, It'll be difficult. I too wish I can fly to the stars. But with my own ability. Not with the influence if parents and friends. If you are so worried about this air line Where were you when MR was ruining it. You must have been one of them who joined hands and helped him to do it. Still some are there continuing the same as they think they own it. This is every body's. If you too can help to change not only you, every body can fly to the stars.
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