If you want to work in China..!!
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Hi every body,
Does any body been on 2 screenings on the same month with 2 different airlines? I have a confirmed screening date on feb 2nd with Shenzhen and another unconfirmed for late feb with another airline, both with different agents, do you know if they ask you to sign anything once you pass their screening? or will this hurt your chances of getting another screening date if you pass and decline a screening? Any ideas on this On
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Does any body been on 2 screenings on the same month with 2 different airlines? I have a confirmed screening date on feb 2nd with Shenzhen and another unconfirmed for late feb with another airline, both with different agents, do you know if they ask you to sign anything once you pass their screening? or will this hurt your chances of getting another screening date if you pass and decline a screening? Any ideas on this On
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If you want to work in China..!
It depends on your agent and what you have worked out. I would let them know in advance that you are still shopping.
If you are brought down by and agent and go through the medical, written test and 10 days of their time that would not be good. I think the interview part with one airline and then the other is OK. But to go through an entire screening process is pushing it.
Just be careful in China because it is a small network. I hope this helps.
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If you are brought down by and agent and go through the medical, written test and 10 days of their time that would not be good. I think the interview part with one airline and then the other is OK. But to go through an entire screening process is pushing it.
Just be careful in China because it is a small network. I hope this helps.
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You can always refuse to sign, just say you need some time to think about what you've seen. I don't think they will refuse this to you.
But like on finals said, if you do the medical etc and pass then move to another airline, that’s just going to P&%s people off， agents and airlines. Also even though you did not sign a contract they will have a record you did the medical for the other airline, so even though no contract was signed the CAAC might see it as moving between airlines, which is not so easy in China- sometimes the CAAC moves in a different way to how you might expect. You need a release letter from your current airline to fly for another airline in China.
But like on finals said, if you do the medical etc and pass then move to another airline, that’s just going to P&%s people off， agents and airlines. Also even though you did not sign a contract they will have a record you did the medical for the other airline, so even though no contract was signed the CAAC might see it as moving between airlines, which is not so easy in China- sometimes the CAAC moves in a different way to how you might expect. You need a release letter from your current airline to fly for another airline in China.
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Thanks for your fast reply guys, I think I will try and move my screening with Shenzhen for march (I hope they don't see this thread) and not risk being stuck with a contract that I'm not really comfortably with.
Thanks again and have good flights.
Thanks again and have good flights.
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I would like to have something cleared please.
Let's say you have few type ratings: CE-750, B727, B737, B747 and you go to China for a B737 job but on CE-750 type there is the VMC and SIC limitation. Do you still need to have that removed even if you go for a different type job?
Let's say you have few type ratings: CE-750, B727, B737, B747 and you go to China for a B737 job but on CE-750 type there is the VMC and SIC limitation. Do you still need to have that removed even if you go for a different type job?
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I’ve never heard of this situation before. In a logical way of thinking I’d guess it should not matter, but if you actual licence (UK Spelling) has a note of any limitation get it removed. You will just be asking for trouble and delays from the CAAC if you do not.
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If you have a restriction on one type rating and not the one you are going to qualify for in China, it doesn't matter. The restriction only pertains to that type rating for your job. Example, if you go to work in China as a A-320 Captain and have a B-747 with a VMC circle to land and an A-320 with no restriction you are OK. It only matters for the A-320 , the airplane you are going to fly in China.
You need to have any restrictions removed ASAP before you go to China or it will be a hard ship, cost you time and money. The CAAC has to have a final license to accept your application , NO Temporary.
I hope this helps,
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You need to have any restrictions removed ASAP before you go to China or it will be a hard ship, cost you time and money. The CAAC has to have a final license to accept your application , NO Temporary.
I hope this helps,
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Chinese airlines are still hiring Captains
Hello Fellow Pilots,
For those of you looking for jobs in China, the market is still going on. There is still a demand for Captains to work in CHINA ON A-320, B-737 as long as you have the minimum of 500 hours pic current within 12 months. 1000 hours pic is better.
Sichuan Airlines, Deer Air, Shenzhen Airlines are still hiring from what I hear.
Pay varies from $10,500 USD to $12,500USD plus $500 a month for housing.
Flying is difficult, lots of hard work but the money is good.
Good Luck,
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For those of you looking for jobs in China, the market is still going on. There is still a demand for Captains to work in CHINA ON A-320, B-737 as long as you have the minimum of 500 hours pic current within 12 months. 1000 hours pic is better.
Sichuan Airlines, Deer Air, Shenzhen Airlines are still hiring from what I hear.
Pay varies from $10,500 USD to $12,500USD plus $500 a month for housing.
Flying is difficult, lots of hard work but the money is good.
Good Luck,
On Final
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If you want to work in China..!!
Hello Fellow Pilots,
I have been working in China for over 1 year now and really like it. Flying will drive you crazy but things could be worse...hehe. Here is what I see in China. I see very high demands for experienced Captains, you got the PIC Time, China has the job..!!!
Sure, far from home, but with the growth, future, demand for pilots, the money is here at least for the next 8 to 10 years.
A little work to land the job here, remove your circle to land (many USA pilots), take a very difficult Chinese Written Exam, fly over for the so called iNTERVIEW, more like a week long schedule of medical and testing. Once you get through the testing and other hassles you have a job..!
Most Captains are making around 10 to 13K per month and you can put it in the bank. So I recommend you give China a thought before taking jobs in other countries. I have heard some countries and airlines are having troubles and pilots are getting abused....! Be careful with agents, I still here horror stories but most seem to be doing OK.
Remember going to work in China from the start to flying the line takes from 3 to 6 months so shop early....prepar, prepar, prepar.
I wish you guys the best in your job search.
Take care,
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I have been working in China for over 1 year now and really like it. Flying will drive you crazy but things could be worse...hehe. Here is what I see in China. I see very high demands for experienced Captains, you got the PIC Time, China has the job..!!!
Sure, far from home, but with the growth, future, demand for pilots, the money is here at least for the next 8 to 10 years.
A little work to land the job here, remove your circle to land (many USA pilots), take a very difficult Chinese Written Exam, fly over for the so called iNTERVIEW, more like a week long schedule of medical and testing. Once you get through the testing and other hassles you have a job..!
Most Captains are making around 10 to 13K per month and you can put it in the bank. So I recommend you give China a thought before taking jobs in other countries. I have heard some countries and airlines are having troubles and pilots are getting abused....! Be careful with agents, I still here horror stories but most seem to be doing OK.
Remember going to work in China from the start to flying the line takes from 3 to 6 months so shop early....prepar, prepar, prepar.
I wish you guys the best in your job search.
Take care,
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Go look at some of the Shenzhen Airlines posts first:
http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...ml#post4930079
http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...ml#post5301777
Once you are on at a Chinese Airline it will cost big bucks to change to another carrier, More than 58K; Unless that new carrier decides to pay off your former airline (good luck with that). Can you say corruption....I knew you could.
http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...ml#post4930079
http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...ml#post5301777
Once you are on at a Chinese Airline it will cost big bucks to change to another carrier, More than 58K; Unless that new carrier decides to pay off your former airline (good luck with that). Can you say corruption....I knew you could.
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Getting paid on time in China
OnFinal,
Thanks very much for all your posts and efforts to help us all out.
Just wondering if you or anyone else out there has any experience/issues with getting paid on time and regularly.
I have been told that it is not uncommon for Chinese carriers to be late with their montly contract fees. As a result (some) agencies could be accused of mis-managing their pilot group.
If this is indeed happening, I am interested in what is typically done about it and how long is the delay in getting your fees backpaid?
Thanks all, happy flying
Thanks very much for all your posts and efforts to help us all out.
Just wondering if you or anyone else out there has any experience/issues with getting paid on time and regularly.
I have been told that it is not uncommon for Chinese carriers to be late with their montly contract fees. As a result (some) agencies could be accused of mis-managing their pilot group.
If this is indeed happening, I am interested in what is typically done about it and how long is the delay in getting your fees backpaid?
Thanks all, happy flying
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Fly and forget the money!
Thats the attitude that China has. This is because most of the Chinese pilots have been trained from zero hours unlike in America. So, the carrier owns you. If they don't pay you for a month or so its normal attitude with many airlines. You will come across one or two post where the expat pilot has been hired by one on time paying carrier and he/she has only good things to say. I am trying to get all info myself and a couple of friends got hired by Air China. The place they stayed in China was a 2 star hotel, more like an apartment. They say it was a complete dump. No English!
Read some of the Shenzen post and BE CAREFUL WHICH AGENCY YOU CHOOSE. Everybody I know is strongly telling me to choose only Parc,Rishworth and Sigmar. Don't even bother to look at others.
Read some of the Shenzen post and BE CAREFUL WHICH AGENCY YOU CHOOSE. Everybody I know is strongly telling me to choose only Parc,Rishworth and Sigmar. Don't even bother to look at others.
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A320 Captain Considering Applying..
Is there anyone on here who actually works for Deer Air? I am a Captain presently working in the UK out of london, about 7000 tt and 2000 command hours on the Airbus. I'm considering the new contract offered to work for Deer Air but would like to know what the flying is actually like and what working for them is actually like before I take it any further as I don't want to waste anyones time.
So monthly hours? Airfields? Is is all circling approaches at night around mountains to tiny strips? Safe operation of airline?
Many Thanks to anyone who has the answers.
So monthly hours? Airfields? Is is all circling approaches at night around mountains to tiny strips? Safe operation of airline?
Many Thanks to anyone who has the answers.