The state of (the) Philippine(s) aviation
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im pretty sure .. i think thats why the inspector who was interviewing me told me to come bck the other day ... just to complete the interview.. and was actually smoking downstairs since meeting daw nila ..
i know its a joke na may nakakapasa kahit hindi nagababayad.. pero whats bad is nagiging resort na lang ng tao yung ganun.. we can actually raise the standards and maybe in the future be awarded or be accredited as only to take a minor exam to get certified in another country..
. oh well.. life ...
i know its a joke na may nakakapasa kahit hindi nagababayad.. pero whats bad is nagiging resort na lang ng tao yung ganun.. we can actually raise the standards and maybe in the future be awarded or be accredited as only to take a minor exam to get certified in another country..
. oh well.. life ...
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Steve Snelson .... hmmmm...This name caught my eye on this forum... I have met this guy (stout guy, looks like santa claus)... he went to see me on my office sometime last year (jan 2008 i think) and he is working on a contract to do heli charter somewhere in the Bicol region.
I have a bad feeling on this character, and i beg off to help him on his supposed contracts.
So if somebody out there is looking for him, PM me and i would gladly help you out. I hate shady characters and let us weed them out one by one ...
by the way... if there's bad people in the aviation industry in the Phils, we start looking at the CAAP
I have a bad feeling on this character, and i beg off to help him on his supposed contracts.
So if somebody out there is looking for him, PM me and i would gladly help you out. I hate shady characters and let us weed them out one by one ...
by the way... if there's bad people in the aviation industry in the Phils, we start looking at the CAAP
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Im reading some of the new CARs, i.e. CAR Part 1 and came across this paragraph... 1.1.1.2 Applicability para (b)...
Exactly as worded in the CARs
"Those regulations addressing persons certificated under any Part of these regulations apply also to any person who engages in an operation governed by any Part of these regulations without the appropriate certificate, license, operations specification, or similar document required as part of the certification"
Anybody here understands what this paragraph means?
Actually, there are many more statements/requirements in the CARs that are worst than this...
ICAO or FAA doesnt even need to do audit to CAAP, just ask anybody within the Philippine aviation industry and they will tell you how bad CAAP is right now... they are in deep deep ****
Exactly as worded in the CARs
"Those regulations addressing persons certificated under any Part of these regulations apply also to any person who engages in an operation governed by any Part of these regulations without the appropriate certificate, license, operations specification, or similar document required as part of the certification"
Anybody here understands what this paragraph means?
Actually, there are many more statements/requirements in the CARs that are worst than this...
ICAO or FAA doesnt even need to do audit to CAAP, just ask anybody within the Philippine aviation industry and they will tell you how bad CAAP is right now... they are in deep deep ****
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Hear Ye, Hear Ye
CAAP has now more than 200 consultants on the payroll (now that's one for the guiness records). Half of which don't even have aviation background and most don't have aviation knowledge. Seems that everybody just want their piece of the pie. It's really getting worst in here. For us, CAAP stands for Cira Ang Ating mga Pangarap (our dreams are shattered).
If only the general public is aware how much of CAAP's collected revenue go to waste because of incompetence.
If only the general public is aware how much of CAAP's collected revenue go to waste because of incompetence.
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win faa,
the caap CAR is a law regs just like the FAR/AIM in the FAA therefore it is written like law quotes or jargon.
to sum up the quote you posted..it pretty much says certain regs apply to those under specific certificate....
and to make sure all is covered it further states that regs also apply to all operating to similar operations without those certificates.
...in a nut shell "this reg applies to all operators..legal or not"
its a way for law to encompass everything just in case the regs miss someone and its covering all..
BTW....the new regs was introduced with the assistance of ICAO/FAA to assist the Philippines.
its a working progress
the caap CAR is a law regs just like the FAR/AIM in the FAA therefore it is written like law quotes or jargon.
to sum up the quote you posted..it pretty much says certain regs apply to those under specific certificate....
and to make sure all is covered it further states that regs also apply to all operating to similar operations without those certificates.
...in a nut shell "this reg applies to all operators..legal or not"
its a way for law to encompass everything just in case the regs miss someone and its covering all..
BTW....the new regs was introduced with the assistance of ICAO/FAA to assist the Philippines.
its a working progress
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got this quote from CAAP personnel...
CAAP = Ciron Ang Aming Panginoon
The previous CARs dont have to be changed as they only need some few improvements. What needs to be overhauled are the people manning the agency.
By the way, got info from CAAP that the ICAO audit is scheduled this year. Should CAAP fail this audit, its a sure way of making it in the EU Blacklist... its the FAA version of Cat 2 downgrade...
CAAP = Ciron Ang Aming Panginoon
The previous CARs dont have to be changed as they only need some few improvements. What needs to be overhauled are the people manning the agency.
By the way, got info from CAAP that the ICAO audit is scheduled this year. Should CAAP fail this audit, its a sure way of making it in the EU Blacklist... its the FAA version of Cat 2 downgrade...
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It's my 1st post here, so here it goes...
just today..i heard this from one good friend of mine...(first hand info)
One "pogi" in the CAAP wanted to close one flight school...due to some "irregularities" etc etc,,,,
ok.. .let say the said school have something going on....
BUT the funny thing is... the $aid POGI is in the PAYROLL of another flight school...and the $aid pogi is "very mad" to the people in the CAAP.. bec the DG did not acted on the matter, as it lack$ merit (the school is not operating)...
i will po$t more info later on on this POGI guy.
herhhehheheheheh
just today..i heard this from one good friend of mine...(first hand info)
One "pogi" in the CAAP wanted to close one flight school...due to some "irregularities" etc etc,,,,
ok.. .let say the said school have something going on....
BUT the funny thing is... the $aid POGI is in the PAYROLL of another flight school...and the $aid pogi is "very mad" to the people in the CAAP.. bec the DG did not acted on the matter, as it lack$ merit (the school is not operating)...
i will po$t more info later on on this POGI guy.
herhhehheheheheh
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win faa
CAAP is to be audited by EU this April, FAA in July then ICAO audit in October. Changes or amendments to PCARs, documents, procedures, MANOPS (manual of operations), etc. are necessary as these are part of the things that will be audited. You are right on one thing, the CAAP needs a general overhaul on staffing especially on management.
question authority
You should report this POGI to the CSC (Civil Service Commission) so he can be investigated on two counts. First, he is using his position for personal gains which is not allowed in public service (conflict of interest). Second, this is a clear case of "double-job". Civil Service rule is that a public servant cannot have another job than that stated in his plantilla without the consent of the CSC.
amihan
You sound like you are a technical staff. Are you ATC, ANS or ACOM? Where are you assigned?
CAAP is to be audited by EU this April, FAA in July then ICAO audit in October. Changes or amendments to PCARs, documents, procedures, MANOPS (manual of operations), etc. are necessary as these are part of the things that will be audited. You are right on one thing, the CAAP needs a general overhaul on staffing especially on management.
question authority
You should report this POGI to the CSC (Civil Service Commission) so he can be investigated on two counts. First, he is using his position for personal gains which is not allowed in public service (conflict of interest). Second, this is a clear case of "double-job". Civil Service rule is that a public servant cannot have another job than that stated in his plantilla without the consent of the CSC.
amihan
You sound like you are a technical staff. Are you ATC, ANS or ACOM? Where are you assigned?
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Sorry for my stupid question: Is the CAAP the successor of the corrupt ATO?
If so, how is corruption doing there now? Can you still get your med whithin 5 mins without being checked and leave a few bills on the table of the so-called "Flight Surgeon"?
If so, how is corruption doing there now? Can you still get your med whithin 5 mins without being checked and leave a few bills on the table of the so-called "Flight Surgeon"?
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from what ive heard
from what ive heard .. and this one is currently working inside the CAAP.. (why not go away, you may ask? he needs the job)
CAAP is much better and much more efficient than ATO...
the bad thing is that, they're much more better in corruption and as some would say "palakasan".
God Help Us.. or The people who are still dealing with the CAAP since I don't na. buti na lang.
CAAP is much better and much more efficient than ATO...
the bad thing is that, they're much more better in corruption and as some would say "palakasan".
God Help Us.. or The people who are still dealing with the CAAP since I don't na. buti na lang.
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CAAP could not even conduct breifings to the industry on the new CARs, Why? because they themselves have problems with the way the CARs where written! Nobody at CAAP would dare teach those CARs to the industry! Even the guys sent by ICAO as consultant to CAAP would not dare teach or give the briefings to the industry because they will be flooded with questions they could not answer.
At the present state of the CAAP, and the way I see things happening at the agency, CAAP will fail the audit (unless, political intervention would happen). Because if they do pass, EU, ICAO and FAA will look very stupid if CAAP passed with flying colors!
At the present state of the CAAP, and the way I see things happening at the agency, CAAP will fail the audit (unless, political intervention would happen). Because if they do pass, EU, ICAO and FAA will look very stupid if CAAP passed with flying colors!
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License renewal
A sign in the CAAP medical office says an applicant can't process his medical check up requirement unless it's 28 days to license expiry.
Consider:
1. Approximately 7 days eating up into a weekend because the medical clerk incessantly deplores that because they are undermanned
and that she has so many others' certificates piled-up to prepare;
2. 2 to 3 days to process a check ride permit;
3. X number days prior his check ride; and then another
3. 4 days to eventually process license possibly again eating up to another weekend.
How many days leeway are pilots actually left with to juggle their schedule and process this requirement?
The clerks thereat are so technology-resistant old that they have never so far considered using computer(s) to facilitate the entire procedure.
Consider:
1. Approximately 7 days eating up into a weekend because the medical clerk incessantly deplores that because they are undermanned
and that she has so many others' certificates piled-up to prepare;2. 2 to 3 days to process a check ride permit;
3. X number days prior his check ride; and then another
3. 4 days to eventually process license possibly again eating up to another weekend.
How many days leeway are pilots actually left with to juggle their schedule and process this requirement?
The clerks thereat are so technology-resistant old that they have never so far considered using computer(s) to facilitate the entire procedure.
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you say using an abacus Jester..... try using his fingers to count how many days it would take you to get a check ride permit ( 2 weeks ) --- "susmaryosep "
Also, I tried talking to a check pilot regarding the "class rating" in the new CAR, and he is so use to explaining type rating that he still said you need 10 hours on a C152 even if you fly a 747....
. They couldn't even get to explain correctly an additional rating for instructors correctly in the old A.O.60.
nothing has changed, in fact I really think it got worse.... i fear they will fail the next audit.
Also, I tried talking to a check pilot regarding the "class rating" in the new CAR, and he is so use to explaining type rating that he still said you need 10 hours on a C152 even if you fly a 747....
. They couldn't even get to explain correctly an additional rating for instructors correctly in the old A.O.60. nothing has changed, in fact I really think it got worse.... i fear they will fail the next audit.
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CAR - 10 hours
...funny i could never find the reference to this 10 hours required flying time..??
i have the new regs downloaded and cant find a reference to this at all. if anyone has an idea which page is it on..please share..
i have the new regs downloaded and cant find a reference to this at all. if anyone has an idea which page is it on..please share..
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CAR - 10 hrs
Jester and Tian Yu- it's in the old AO 60. I haven't seen it in the new regs though. Maybe it has something to do with the "class rating" I was enquiring about.
Most of us probably know that a class rating allows you to fly any single engine airplane with only an "endorsement" ( estimate of 2 flight hours) to get the aircraft in your license in comparison to a type rating ( 10 hrs) that was required in the old AO60.
I needed this confirmed by them but .................
Most of us probably know that a class rating allows you to fly any single engine airplane with only an "endorsement" ( estimate of 2 flight hours) to get the aircraft in your license in comparison to a type rating ( 10 hrs) that was required in the old AO60.
I needed this confirmed by them but .................
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Additional rating sought
You can find the answer to your questions regarding Additional Type Rating Sought in the current CAAP CAR (Civil Air Regulation), Part 2, Titled "Personnel Licensing".
The problem you will have is to convince the Authority
that CAAP CAR Part 2 Personnel Licensing exist.
Its all in there written in black and white and its a Regulatory Law passed by the Philippine Government.
Good Luck......
The problem you will have is to convince the Authority
that CAAP CAR Part 2 Personnel Licensing exist.Its all in there written in black and white and its a Regulatory Law passed by the Philippine Government.
Good Luck......
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what exactly are you trying to do? what licenses do you hold and what are you trying to add.
the new regs is just as confusing and the worst part no one at the CAAP will touch it or interpret it. either way.. you have to say "uncle" depending who you are asking there.
the 10 hours is no where to be found..at least i did not see it. if you do see it please pm me with a reference to the regs..
i have a pfr format copy of the regs which i downloaded from the CAAP website. it is part 2, licensing.
good luck..please share anyinfo you may come across..but only if it can be referenced.
thanks
the new regs is just as confusing and the worst part no one at the CAAP will touch it or interpret it. either way.. you have to say "uncle" depending who you are asking there.
the 10 hours is no where to be found..at least i did not see it. if you do see it please pm me with a reference to the regs..
i have a pfr format copy of the regs which i downloaded from the CAAP website. it is part 2, licensing.
good luck..please share anyinfo you may come across..but only if it can be referenced.
thanks
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Civil Aviation Authority executive probed for grave misconduct
MANILA, Philippines – Director General Ruben Ciron has ordered the investigation of Daniel Dimagiba, Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) deputy director-general for operations, for alleged acts of grave misconduct, including issuing a certificate to operate to an airline company.
Dimagiba’s issuance of an Air Carrier Operating Certificate (ACOC) to Sky Aviation Services, Inc. (SASI) on Aug. 1, 2008 has drawn the attention of the Australian aviation oversight authority and the European Union Air Safety Committee.
Last Feb. 5, Ciron sent Dimagiba a memorandum ordering him to submit an explanation why no administrative or criminal charges should be filed against him.
In response, Dimagiba sent Ciron a copy of his “letter of apology” to Daniel Calleja, Director-General for Energy and Transport of the European Commission, dated Feb. 10.
Dimagiba said he issued the ACOC on Aug. 1, 2008 in the belief that it was within the scope of his authority while the CAAP was in a transition period and the implementing rules and regulations of Republic Act 9497, the Civil Aviation Authority Act of 2008, was still being prepared.
Dimagiba allegedly committed eight counts of grave misconduct. He and another employee were the subjects of a written complaint addressed to President Arroyo on Jan. 2, 2008 by the Flying School Operators Association, which alleged that Dimagiba and the employee were collecting $1,500 per foreign student before signing certificates. Dimagiba denied the claim.
On Sept. 15, 2008, Dimagiba and another employee reportedly threatened flight operations inspectors Capt. Andrew Florentino and Capt. Ismael Lapus Jr. to change the failing grades they gave to “organic pilots” Capt. Jayfred Basawil and Capt. Saturnino de la Cruz or else they and four other flight inspectors will not be issued their licenses and their funding from the International Civil Aviation Organization will be cut off.
Dimagiba is also reportedly guilty of unauthorized correspondence and misrepresentation with foreign authorities and international organizations. In some correspondences, Dimagiba reportedly expressed CAAP official positions with regard to RP-registered aircraft operating abroad with foreign civil aviation authorities without consulting or informing the director general of CAAP.
MANILA, Philippines – Director General Ruben Ciron has ordered the investigation of Daniel Dimagiba, Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) deputy director-general for operations, for alleged acts of grave misconduct, including issuing a certificate to operate to an airline company.
Dimagiba’s issuance of an Air Carrier Operating Certificate (ACOC) to Sky Aviation Services, Inc. (SASI) on Aug. 1, 2008 has drawn the attention of the Australian aviation oversight authority and the European Union Air Safety Committee.
Last Feb. 5, Ciron sent Dimagiba a memorandum ordering him to submit an explanation why no administrative or criminal charges should be filed against him.
In response, Dimagiba sent Ciron a copy of his “letter of apology” to Daniel Calleja, Director-General for Energy and Transport of the European Commission, dated Feb. 10.
Dimagiba said he issued the ACOC on Aug. 1, 2008 in the belief that it was within the scope of his authority while the CAAP was in a transition period and the implementing rules and regulations of Republic Act 9497, the Civil Aviation Authority Act of 2008, was still being prepared.
Dimagiba allegedly committed eight counts of grave misconduct. He and another employee were the subjects of a written complaint addressed to President Arroyo on Jan. 2, 2008 by the Flying School Operators Association, which alleged that Dimagiba and the employee were collecting $1,500 per foreign student before signing certificates. Dimagiba denied the claim.
On Sept. 15, 2008, Dimagiba and another employee reportedly threatened flight operations inspectors Capt. Andrew Florentino and Capt. Ismael Lapus Jr. to change the failing grades they gave to “organic pilots” Capt. Jayfred Basawil and Capt. Saturnino de la Cruz or else they and four other flight inspectors will not be issued their licenses and their funding from the International Civil Aviation Organization will be cut off.
Dimagiba is also reportedly guilty of unauthorized correspondence and misrepresentation with foreign authorities and international organizations. In some correspondences, Dimagiba reportedly expressed CAAP official positions with regard to RP-registered aircraft operating abroad with foreign civil aviation authorities without consulting or informing the director general of CAAP.