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Old 24th Nov 2001, 07:16
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Well those of you who had worked hard for the ATPL why you worry about it. The knowledge is always with you. The ones who cheated I hope the lack of knowledge will not catch up with you someday.
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And do you gentlemen who passed the ATPL the hard way knows the culprit who heated,copied and paid bribes to get the ATPL. It's none other than the Taliban pilots in the 70's and 80's in the majority.

They went on to take over the management of Flight Operations in the 90's to issue us such stupid directive as to fly from LHR-KUL with no diversion fuel at the single runway destination.
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Old 25th Nov 2001, 09:32
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I was a B Team crew from TYO-LAX a couple of years ago when the Captain of the flight accepted a flight plan to fly parallel to the jet stream over the North Pacific. Nothing wrong with that except there is a long line of frontal weather also running parallel to the flight path with some CAT reported. I suggested that he takes the route more to the south even though it will incur another 20 minutes to the flight time. He refused.

After 1 hours into the flight we encountered moderate to severe turbulence the kind that made the plane buck wildly and left you hanging unto the control column for almost 3 hours. I think that night it was the worst experience for everybody in their entire flying career. We also could not descent as there were 2 plane sandwiching us below.

This particular Captain is the Taliban type and it is generally known that he was one of the unscrupulous pilots who had obtained his ATPL. So his detailed knowledge on meteorology was nothing much to talk about to have taken this flight path. It was one of the favorite questions in the 70's ATPL exam to avoid flying in the above situation. Well like somebody said ignorance was bliss.

I had to sit on the jumped seat over this period to give moral support and as a result did not have much sleep when I took over. To top it off I had to do an autoland in LAX as he was not qualified.

Well apart from frightening some customers away what can you learn from the above apisode.
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well old ace. you seems to have unsettled business. I sat for my ATPL in the early 80's, and I don't see I'm less knowledegable that those who sat before 1976. I studied and passed with single sitting, and it was all subjective questions. I was worried whether I could made it thru at that time. The course that I took really help me a lot. I don't see what's the fuzz, old ace? Infact I learned more as I clocked more hours, this is something where ATPL doesnt teach me. So, are you one them who sat for the "real" UK ATPL? Good for you, sallute to Old Ace, the ace or shall it be "a-s" pilot.

Yes, the present rule of Malaysian ATPL does not required the candidate to pass at least 5 papers (in one sitting), and no time limit. Futhermore, most papers are objective. It's very different compared to those day. But, I'm sure the candidates have to study too. and hopefully, the knowledge do help them in flying. So, what's the problem old ace? still, not happy? go bang your head on the wall. perhaps, you will find your satisfaction.
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Old 25th Nov 2001, 15:40
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Pilost says: “To claim that more than half of the pilot community here are having a 'kopi O lesen' is very serious indeed. If he was right then MAS will have an accident every other day for having pilots of this caliber”


What kind of logic is that. We are talking about pilots copying in their exams and having lack of integrity. We have pilots who never even got through the SPM (GCE O Level) in MAS even though the minimum required is a good grade after 11 years of schooling. So if we take in pilots with 6 years of academic time and there is no accident does that mean everything is OK. Even monkeys can be taught how to fly. So would you like to fly as a passenger with that monkey in front.

In MAS there are a lot of immature monkey like characters who makes a fool of themselves as commander especially to the cabin crew. These are not young monkeys but in the age range of 35-45. All it seemed they are interested in during the flight and after flight in what is underneath the sarong of the stewardesses rather than really managing the flights and carrying themselves well. Sometimes it can be a real embarrassment to be associated with them.

We had heard of pilot saying I don’t want my family to fly if that character is flying the plane. Well we know who they are, but the problem is do these characters really realized what they are doing to the pilot fraternity. No wonder we are no longer being respected as before by the other departments especially the Cabin Crew and being treated as just another ‘taxi-driver’.
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Old 26th Nov 2001, 02:21
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Hey OldAce999 Im a commander, Im 35-45 and Im interested in whats under the sarong of your stewardesses too, and I dont even work for your outfit! Just because some guys chase your fluff doesnt mean there any worse as pilots. I think your maybe not gettin any and jealous of those who are!

PS then again Im not that luckey with our Nam lot neither!
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Old 26th Nov 2001, 08:16
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Slasher what OldAce is trying to say is how you go about doing it. Not in a gross juvenile way by grabbing the buttock of a stew in front of all the crew.

As for me I study the situation, invite her for dinner in my room and then try to feel what's inside the sarong.
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Dinner..in your room...what style you have. Must be the rendang you brought from home and heat up nearly flaming the hotels carpet.
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Old 26th Nov 2001, 09:45
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FL600 at some nightstops (like TPE) we even organise to be down-stairs in the lobby if theres an MAS cabin crew known to be checking out. Dont know how many times I wanted to grab the butts of some of your girls myself!
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I've tried a few...they were yummmm! Man, Old ace, what happened to you mate? No 6ex lest we die doing???
Pity you mate.
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I concur!!
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Old 27th Nov 2001, 07:41
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Emm....let me check my gun butt for the x crosses............148 nothing less in 28 years. And some were even virgin.

Maybe some of you maniac can beat the score. But the trick is to do it discreetly. These Taliban got no class...with only rendang. I got champagne complete with ice.
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Yeah right!!!! Anyone can say that. However, are the "scores" UK or Malaysian standard?? It would not count if some were locals, alright.
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Well, well, well, we've had the "Errol Flynn of Singapore Airlines," now we've got the "Phantom Shagger of Old KL...."

Braggin' about shaggin' = Jet Blast. This forum is for putting the boot in and salaciously destroyi...er, sorry, cutting and incisive comment and critique relevant to the aviation World today. I think....

Keep this one on topic. After you've locked up your daughters, of course....

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Old 28th Nov 2001, 05:39
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Well as you can see...us Malaysians are vey competitive. ATPL vs. Women. It's called the K.... syndrome, but we sometimes don't wanna admit how close we are to our neighbours down south.
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Old 28th Nov 2001, 07:01
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Well some of you were questioning my credibility, now you got it. Maybe the biggest shagger East of Suez. Hahahahahaaa.
Wait Tom Yam (Tom Cruise after he became a Buddhist in Patpong) might had beaten me to it.

Its good for your ego and libido I tell ya.
Also fine tuned your senses and system for flying. Don't do it too often though.
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Old 28th Nov 2001, 07:30
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MR Login: Some were from Japan, Korea, Mexican, South Africa and England the good old Virgin Atlantic. The non-Malaysian were easier to handle no messing leftovers.

You think the UK CAA will recognise this?
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Old 28th Nov 2001, 08:03
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Phantom Shagger of old KL? I must know him since Im the phantom shagger of old Ha Noi!
Regards to the overnighting MAS tech crew (phantom shaggers) who shared a beer and 20 with me about 2 months ago in TPE and taut me a few more "nice" Malaysian words.
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Actually Slasher, I was thinking of something along the lines of "Paddling the one-oared canoe up the Mekong Delta" for you, but ran out of inspiration...! Also, could be open to mis-interpretation, and we couldn't have that now, could we?

One day I will practice what I preach.... till then, Taliban, ATPL's-R-Us, etc. wasn't it?
Oh, never mind......!

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Anyone here need some tips and tricks on how to pick up the stew for bodyheat or splendour in the bedsheet during nightstops. I still got some up my sleeve that works most of the time.
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