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Old 15th Mar 2008, 03:26
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Types of Contract Terms at Spicejet-India

Some of you had asked about what contract terms were available for NG Capts at Spicejet. Here are the three types available:

1. 10 weeks ON/3 Weeks off

2. 2 Months ON/ 1 Month off

3. 1 Month ON/ 1 Month off

I am on the first one listed. Since I am here in India with my family I don't always have to take the 3 weeks off. I still get my travel allowance and get paid extra to work those weeks. Alternatively, I can just take more time later when needed (summer vacation for kids etc).

One thing I will say is that the folks at Spicejet are VERY flexible when it comes time off issues for expats. As an added note, we have started to see some expats come here with their families. I think I may have been the first one to do that as a Capt. We now have 5-6 Capts with their families here.
They all seem quite happy having done that.
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Nevrekar,

I really like your posts, they are very informative. Thanks for that.

Please I would like some more info about Spicejet: I heard that the time off is not paid. Can you confirm this info?

Also, what are the bases available?

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At Spicejet, the time off is indeed UNPAID. That may have been the reason why many folks have gone elsewhere perhaps, where they had no income loss when they were off. Spicejet will pay you a travel allowance during the time off though. What you miss out in pay you gain in flexibility, friendly environment, and a small family type atmosphere. The Indian Captains here are very nice, professional and I have never met anyone who was not courteous.

What some expats do is fly 100-120 hrs a month for the 2 odd months they are here, and then are able to coast on their time off b/c of 80 hrs on overtime pay made earlier. Pay is for 80 hr, after that it is considered overtime.

We work pretty hard here, compared to AIX, IA or some other carriers. Right now you can be based in DEL, BOM, MAA, HYD. I think if you wanted to be based elsewhere, where the company operates, they might oblige.

Spicejet is HIRING expat Capts who have quality PIC time on other jet aircraft or variant of the B737. We have former B-747-400/B-777/B757/767/727/737-200 skippers working for us. Most are age 60 plus although we have a bunch who are younger. If you have never flown the NG, you get 40 hrs in the RHS, and 60 hrs in the LHS before you are released. Spicejet has been picking up the cost of th NG endorsement for "qualified" applicants.
For some they pay the costs, but deduct them over a time period.

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Thanks for the information. As usual your posts are very informative.

However the unpaid leave makes this a not so good choice, despite the flexibility and all the other benefits, unless one is moving with the family. I have been based in Delhi and moving to India is something I consider.

As a matter of fact I am currently flying the NG, I just decided not to change the name.

Thanks anyway. Safe flights.
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Glad to be of help. When I was looking at India, I was speaking to Jet & AIX, but Spicejet was the only one who could guarantee a Delhi base, which is what we wanted.
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Do you know if Spice (or any other Airlines) hiring Expat FO's for quick upgrade with no hours in type. Also, Rumors has it that all Expats contracts coming to end by June 1st. How is this impacting Spicejet overall hiring of Expats.
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I am in no way connected with the hiring process at Spicejet, but I will say that we have no expat first-officers here. The only way to get hired here as an expat is as a Capt. The quick upgrade you have mentioned is for guys with PIC in large jet aircraft who get their NG type endorsements. Applicants who have no jet PIC time in turbine aircraft have not been considered.

The expiration of expat contracts you mentioned is for F/O's and not Capts.
We have a few foreign passport holder expat F/O's, but they are of Indian origin and have the POI/OCI card. Futhermore, they have converted all their credentials to Indian ones, and are flying on Indian terms and conditions. Thus they are not considered expats.

Expat hiring continues at Spicejet and I see new (confused!) faces here almost every week. Aircraft orders continue and we need Capts to fly these aircraft. As there is a a shortage of "local" commanders the need for expats remains critical and an operational necessity. There are very few Indian F/O's meeting upgrade requirements (hrs) and the company is upgrading every available and qualified candidate, or at least giving them a chance to do so.
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Nevrekar, are you flying on your foreign licence?

The Ts & Cs they sent me would have had me keeping my licence and ratings current (inc medical) on my own wallet, and using my time off to go and do it. Didn't sound like to sweet a deal.
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Flying on my U.S FAA ATPL and B737 type as well as US Medical. I have to keep renewing my medical (can be done in India if needed with an FAA approved Dr.) Spicejet does all the PC checks either at HK or Dubai, and now Brussels. Bombay also has a SIM. India issues us a FATA (Foreign AirCrew Temp Authorization) to fly here. That's about it.
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What are some of the other bases at spicejet apart from Delhi?
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Bombay, Hyderabad, Chennai, Bangalore, Calcutta
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