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Hi Guys,been reading alot about AA lately,must say that its all true...we the pilots are treated like slaves....the pay has to be increased and the f/o's also deserve a pay hike.the time has come for the pilots in AA to stand up and say in one voice that WE HAVE HAD IT with all the 
.....A.A.P.A needs to be born...then and only then will the bullying and slavery stop.....TF take note !
.....A.A.P.A needs to be born...then and only then will the bullying and slavery stop.....TF take note !
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Essentialbus,
the ripple effect question has been on my mind since the day i first heard about it,and to be very honest,i have NO answer to your question. There are already plenty of snags (but none of them safety wise) but like you said,"gamble" is the perfect word to describe it. and TF has probably got some "bomoh" who is praying over him every single hour.
but no luck lasts forever.
QAR,
TF has to be tought a lesson no doubt,but doing it is not easy. even as an Ak pilot i find it very hard to think of a way except bailing out on him which as you accurately pointed out,is hard with piles and piles of bonds,even for a captain,let alone fo's. but,the only way is that.
referring back to my earlier email,when fo's reach their prime (captain), and TF thinks that his so called "investments" or "slaves" are finally bearing fruit (hey,he practically got free captains!), thats the time to bail out. for now,use the trg,use the hours being provided,and treasure it.
keep your eyes and ears open,and your mouth shut.
He wont see it coming.
the ripple effect question has been on my mind since the day i first heard about it,and to be very honest,i have NO answer to your question. There are already plenty of snags (but none of them safety wise) but like you said,"gamble" is the perfect word to describe it. and TF has probably got some "bomoh" who is praying over him every single hour.
but no luck lasts forever.
QAR,
TF has to be tought a lesson no doubt,but doing it is not easy. even as an Ak pilot i find it very hard to think of a way except bailing out on him which as you accurately pointed out,is hard with piles and piles of bonds,even for a captain,let alone fo's. but,the only way is that.
referring back to my earlier email,when fo's reach their prime (captain), and TF thinks that his so called "investments" or "slaves" are finally bearing fruit (hey,he practically got free captains!), thats the time to bail out. for now,use the trg,use the hours being provided,and treasure it.
keep your eyes and ears open,and your mouth shut.
He wont see it coming.
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Guys,just read TF's new year email.....talks about the same things and also of CHANGING MINDSETS.....think he needs to look into a mirror and tell himself first.EY road show was good...it opened our eyes.
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It always p!sses me off when I read one of TF's mass email calling for world class standards. Hey, we pilots have no problem striving for world class standards but how can we achieve world standards when the organization does not invest in it?
You want exceptional turnarounds but how do we do it when pushback trucks break down? You want clean toilets but there is only 1 team of cleaners to clean the whole fleet in a night. They're rushing to finish the cabin so the toilets aren't a priority. You want pilots to have better PR with guests but how do we do that when the only time we're accessible (on ground), Captains has to do the transit check while the clerk has to do the loadsheets. We have a 1 minute toilet break, the documents, FMGS programming, walkaround to do while monitoring the catering van, pushback truck and bowsers are at the gate on time. Don't expect us to do more, we're humans.
Hurrah though for the dental benefits of RM200/annum! Hurrah!
If you want quality, reward quality. Treat people like losers, and they won't disappoint you.
You want exceptional turnarounds but how do we do it when pushback trucks break down? You want clean toilets but there is only 1 team of cleaners to clean the whole fleet in a night. They're rushing to finish the cabin so the toilets aren't a priority. You want pilots to have better PR with guests but how do we do that when the only time we're accessible (on ground), Captains has to do the transit check while the clerk has to do the loadsheets. We have a 1 minute toilet break, the documents, FMGS programming, walkaround to do while monitoring the catering van, pushback truck and bowsers are at the gate on time. Don't expect us to do more, we're humans.
Hurrah though for the dental benefits of RM200/annum! Hurrah!
If you want quality, reward quality. Treat people like losers, and they won't disappoint you.
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fair.pilot,
that is affirm. they wanna cut down printing costs. for a company who believes in cutting costs,they forgotten the key to money making... "investments". its just books! come on!
all pilots now strain their eyes on their laptops to study
and i think its more like 5cents per cd when its bought in bulk
that is affirm. they wanna cut down printing costs. for a company who believes in cutting costs,they forgotten the key to money making... "investments". its just books! come on!
all pilots now strain their eyes on their laptops to study
and i think its more like 5cents per cd when its bought in bulk
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alot of transmile guys came in search of jobs....was there in the morning,not too many from aa...most were coming later or the next day..for us f/o's it is a very good jump,no sign of TF.
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CHROME,
My company provides me with printed text manuals. Updated versions are automatically left in our pigeon holes.
Hopefully they won't follow AA to have them downloaded in CDs
My company provides me with printed text manuals. Updated versions are automatically left in our pigeon holes.
Hopefully they won't follow AA to have them downloaded in CDs
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Yes! Time for action!
Time to abandon the "pirate" ship and steer the cruise liner.......
For young sailors below 30 y/o, you have nothing to lose, pay your bond and within a year you'll earn it back.
Nothing venture nothing gain, and most importantly the tide now is favouring u!
Time to abandon the "pirate" ship and steer the cruise liner.......
For young sailors below 30 y/o, you have nothing to lose, pay your bond and within a year you'll earn it back.
Nothing venture nothing gain, and most importantly the tide now is favouring u!
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you are right,time for we f/o's to take action and stop letting TF and his merry men push us around anymore.guys lets go and get a slice of the pie out there...why should only TF get rich...two cpts just resign,going to MH and EY....i hear that many more to come...
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yeah thats confirmed. one for etihad and one mas. and yes there will be more. by the time april comes, TF is gonna be in sh*t just like how he was last time when the whole bunch of hguys left all at one for jet airways etc.
doesnt this guy ever learn.?
doesnt this guy ever learn.?
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That's funny 
As I said before, it's the better ones leaving. The TRIs.
For a big sized low cost carrier as ours, I'm quite sure we're the lowest paid. Well at this point of time any other option is better than AirAsia. You have to understand that AirAsia staff has no life but work, work and more work. If you read my previous posts I've complained that while workload has increased, the pay has not. And I'm talking company-wide, not just the crew, ramp, engineering or other operations personnel. That's a load of bs if you ask me. No one is complaining having to work hard and striving for world class status etc but come on, families are affected, health takes a beating and there's not much to look forward to. We're only asking to compensate us fairly.
I see that morale is quite low right now. Shares prices won't be at its normal value for months because he screwed up. There's so much things that frustrates me and fellow colleagues now. Worse is we're in demand worldwide but he's treating us like we're whining losers. Yea of course we're dispensable and TF makes sure we know that, but let's see what that does to the company. Leave my friends... take your expertise elsewhere so eyes are opened and pants will be pissed. Give the ones that have no choice but to stay the bullets to fight and demand what's right for us. Who knows? If things gets worse, even the AEs will leave.
I for one will never leave AK for MH for various reasons but I don't run other people's thinking. EK/EY will be my next stop
As I said before, it's the better ones leaving. The TRIs.
For a big sized low cost carrier as ours, I'm quite sure we're the lowest paid. Well at this point of time any other option is better than AirAsia. You have to understand that AirAsia staff has no life but work, work and more work. If you read my previous posts I've complained that while workload has increased, the pay has not. And I'm talking company-wide, not just the crew, ramp, engineering or other operations personnel. That's a load of bs if you ask me. No one is complaining having to work hard and striving for world class status etc but come on, families are affected, health takes a beating and there's not much to look forward to. We're only asking to compensate us fairly.
I see that morale is quite low right now. Shares prices won't be at its normal value for months because he screwed up. There's so much things that frustrates me and fellow colleagues now. Worse is we're in demand worldwide but he's treating us like we're whining losers. Yea of course we're dispensable and TF makes sure we know that, but let's see what that does to the company. Leave my friends... take your expertise elsewhere so eyes are opened and pants will be pissed. Give the ones that have no choice but to stay the bullets to fight and demand what's right for us. Who knows? If things gets worse, even the AEs will leave.
I for one will never leave AK for MH for various reasons but I don't run other people's thinking. EK/EY will be my next stop
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Chrome,
May I Ask How Did Tf Screw Up That The Share Price Hit So Low??
Yes I Have Agree With You If You Take Indonesia Out Airasia Are One The Lowest Paid 320 Pilots In The World.
Its Amazing How In A Country Like Malaysia You Are Paid So Low.
I Dont Think Kul Is That Cheap Of A Place To Live With Us$2000.
The Only Way Is For You Guys To Leave In Numbers..only Then Your Cunning Ceo Will Wakeup..at Least The Poor Guys That Is Left Behind Will Get A Better Deal..
Must Always Remember Good Time In Aviation Is Not There Forever..better Catch The Wave Now..
May I Ask How Did Tf Screw Up That The Share Price Hit So Low??
Yes I Have Agree With You If You Take Indonesia Out Airasia Are One The Lowest Paid 320 Pilots In The World.
Its Amazing How In A Country Like Malaysia You Are Paid So Low.
I Dont Think Kul Is That Cheap Of A Place To Live With Us$2000.
The Only Way Is For You Guys To Leave In Numbers..only Then Your Cunning Ceo Will Wakeup..at Least The Poor Guys That Is Left Behind Will Get A Better Deal..
Must Always Remember Good Time In Aviation Is Not There Forever..better Catch The Wave Now..
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Will see how the indonesian pilots will do..usually they are more extreme..i heard there wil be a mass MC (report sick) in one day (they try to follow CX pilot tactics long time ago)..and we will see how suffer TF and their famous Eagle Ops ( who never even understand how to read Notam and Wx rep.)...hey..hey i heard when Jakarta airports closed for the whole day ( about 4 days ago ) due flooding in the airport..eagle ops hide the information and didnt inform the PIC and release the flt to jakarta, and AA is the only A/C who depart to jakarta at that day ( while all alt airport are full of a/c diverted)..luckly the PIC is the Indo pilot who know how to negotiate with the ATC in Jakarta, and doing a safe landing as the 1st a/c who landed there after almost 10hrs clsd.......he..he..eagle ops
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QAR, here's an article on 7th December 2007 during the LIMA airshow of TF announcing AirAsia's hedging plans. He said they've locked future fuel prices at USD79. It was a bet that he eventually lost as fuel prices did not go down and went up above USD100. If prices stay where they are AirAsia stands to lose a lot of money, reducing earnings and revising profit forecasts. When financial analysts noticed this of course they would advice their clients and voila!, a massive selldown of AirAsia stock. It's not so much of screwing up on his fuel hedging strategy as AirAsia will still make profits (albeit a reduced one) with fuel at these levels. It's more to the concern of his rather aggresive and 'cowboy' methods taking an unrealistic bet. No one should bet with public funds! Here is another article made about a month after the first one when AK shares experienced a week of selldown.
Flyeast you obviously know nothing about the company's operations so I suggest you refrain from making any comments about AK. Listening to what people gossip is one thing but help spreading those rumors over the internet when you yourself is unsure is another.
Flyeast you obviously know nothing about the company's operations so I suggest you refrain from making any comments about AK. Listening to what people gossip is one thing but help spreading those rumors over the internet when you yourself is unsure is another.