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Old 16th Feb 2008, 09:47
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by way airasia pilots....who is reading this forum. the MEETing with TF is complusory for flt crew that is not working on though's days.


otherwise 5 rotans on somebody's a@s by the FIRM.

The thread by 'Flyeast' is true. That was due to the big down pour before the CNY. the walk out happened on last sunday.
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Old 16th Feb 2008, 11:22
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420,

I Know It Kinds Of Pisses You Of When Woobly Write About Ak Standards Because Your Flying There.

Its No Point Of Us Fighting If Ak Is Up To The Aviation Standards.

Every Pilots Has His Own Standards But Its Easier When The Airline You Fly With Has Set A Higher One.

You Will Know Where You Stand In Terms Of Standards When You Go And Pass And Proper Airline Pilot Interview With The Big Boys(ek,cx.etc)..

One Thing I Know Tf Doesnt Give A Rats A$$ If His Pilots Has Standards....because At The End Of The Day If Ak Makes Money So He Can Pay For His Porsche,flash Aprt,girls,his Football Club And F1 Sponsors...thats What He Wants...

Do You Really Think That Tf Has Passion For Aviation???

Come On He Is Running This Bus Company For Money..full Stop.
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Old 16th Feb 2008, 18:10
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I like the call sign ... "Asian Express" .. we're asians .. and by the amount of flying we do every month we gain hours pretty fast and experience too, and people are leaving...

"Asian express, request permission to taxy, if permitting, direct middle east"
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Old 17th Feb 2008, 22:26
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Post #59: we will see how suffer TF and their famous Eagle Ops ( who never even understand how to read Notam and Wx rep.)...hey..hey i heard when Jakarta airports closed for the whole day ( about 4 days ago ) due flooding in the airport..eagle ops hide the information and didnt inform the PIC and release the flt to jakarta
Post #78: Crew tried to contact Flt ops in KL, since they not been informed that Jakarta Int’l airport was closed, and no information on the NOTAM and Forecast wx is still within limit. Until they are out of reach, Flt ops ( your eagle ops ) unable to give any information to the crew. PIC decided to continue the flight to Jakarta
Flyeast I am quite impressed with your European flying and all but this is not the issue here. At first you say it's AK954 then later in the story it's AK952 but let's not care about that for now shall we?

Check my earlier post and you will see I never denied that incident never occured. I however have a problem of you lying of how it happened. Ok I shouldn't use that word, somehow or rather let's just say you're bending the truth. For some reason due to your excellent CRM skills some facts have now become fiction.

In your 1st post you accuse Eagle Ops of hiding a lot of information from the captain to dispatch the flight but in your 2nd post you said "no information on the NOTAM and Forecast wx is still within limit". Now if there wasn't anything in the NOTAM and weather forecasted was good, how would they (if they had the intelligence to read it in the first place ) hide something that is not there in the first place?

When Singapore Radar gave them the information that WIII was closed and all other alternates were either closed or full of aircraft why did the Captain decided to continue the flight? With all his flying experience (JAA Switzerland ATP etc etc) how would he know his old friend was working that day in the Tower? And if they ended up with no fuel would you still blame Operations for what happened? He took quite a risky decision there in my opinion. Even if it turned out his godfather or favourite uncle on his father's side or the nephew of the cousin of his village head was the controller that day at Soekarno, it would still be the Captain's responsibility if something went wrong during his attempt to land.

What kind of people do you think work there that would let something like this happen on purpose? Don't you think it could be something that they did not know of in the first place? You should understand the difference here, whether it was on purpose or not because I dare say that it was not on purpose that the flight was dispatched. And when the flight continued, it was the Captain's call to do anything. And this AK954 then changed to AK952 story. I'm sure it's a typo and it's normal for people to make mistakes so it's okay. But this is PPrune and 2 posts typed in one thread sitting in a relaxed environment wherever you are. And you claim you never made a mistake communicating verbally in 17 years flying in a stressed cockpit with other non-natives in Europe? I find that hard to believe.

I'll end this post like how I ended in post #60. Flyeast you obviously know nothing about the company's operations so I suggest you refrain from making any comments about AK. Listening to what people gossip is one thing but help spreading those rumors over the internet when you yourself is unsure is another.
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Old 17th Feb 2008, 23:03
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jetjockey696 no one can tell you what you should do on your day off. If you have something else to do don't bother to attend. We're all flying maximum nowadays, minimum days off and have limited time to ourselves and family. They expect us to show up if it's your day off? Forget it lah.

Well done to our Indonesian brothers for showing force. It was a bit unprofessional but what the heck. Company treats us like unprofessional losers so we should not disappoint them.
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Old 18th Feb 2008, 04:50
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QAR,who the hell said tony gave a **** about the standards of the pilots? Thais the job of the pilots themselves & the DFO. All tony cares about is advertising and marketing and promoting the air Asia brand so he can fill up his pockets! He so very obviously does not give a **** about the pilotS stds. He doesn't get involved.but that does not mean our standards are low.how you could possibly make such a stupid assumption based on such a stupid reason i have no idea.just cos he'S an idiot does not mean we are. Fruitless, nice try fishing out my identity buddy... But sorry... STRIKE 1!!!
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Arghhh... do not talk about the standards guys,.. It’s a sensitive topic...
So, is it true that the Australian DCA caught Air Asia X flying on ETOPS route even though the company is a non-ETOPS operator?
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Old 18th Feb 2008, 15:34
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HMMMM....
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as far as i know they arent ETOPS , could be wrong though

too many airbus related nicks these days
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Unable to call Eagle Ops or get latest METAR? I thought there is such thing called SATCOM or ACARS ..............

Opppsssssssss, sorry..... this is a LOCO ..............

420, do you know where my path is? Sorry buddy, can't help but I deserve a better treatment........
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 05:36
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Chrome & 420,

This is The Professional Pilots Rumour Network.

If you want factual read your flight manual. Lets hope that your arrogance and know it all attitude is relegated to this forum and not your flight deck. I am sure many would shiver having to fly with a$$holes like you.
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 11:08
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the TF meeting

Did anyone go to the meeting with TF 2day??


What was sermon like??
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 12:09
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Tf Bull****

420,

Since Your With Airasia So What Kind Of Bull**** Did Tf Come With This Time...

Im Guessing Same Old ****...different Day?????
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 13:00
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Year same **** different day is absolutely correct. And also with immediate effect,captains allowances will be increased to rm195 per hour!! Fo's on the other hand they are considering increasing the allowances to 75 per hour but this is only when the fo reaches total of 2500 hrs flight time. The key word here is "considering" which basically means that fo's get jack****...for now. So year...same **** different day. Bloody ridiculous! The captains are now earning FOUR times more than fo's. And wooblah,thats not a rumour thats a fact. Sorry if you can't handle facts well
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A Chinese proverbs "10,000 miles starts with a step"

It's this 1st step that's makes the 10,000 miles possible. Probably the FOs in AK couldn't even lift their feets!
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 16:02
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Tf Same Old Bull****

You Know Why Is Tf Paying His Capt 4 Times More.simple Fact That He Can.

I Cant Imagine What Kind Of Cockpit Enviroment You Guys Have In Ak When The Guy On The Left Gets 4 Times More Than The Right..how About The Work Load????

Never Heard This Kind Of Scale Anywhere Else.

I Tell You What 420 Forget About Fighting For Your Rights In Airasia..its Just A Toilet Bowl Of All Airlines..just Get Your Hours Leave Asap..and Yeah Please Dont Give Any Notice.because They Dont Deserve Any.
The Management Will Never Fight For Your Rights Because They Have Their Rice Bowl Taken Care Off..so Who Cares For You At The Bottom...

Mate Airasia Is A Zoo And Its Managed By Monkeys..hope I Have Said My Word!!!!
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Seems that way -- if the FOs stick together than probably they will be able to bargain something worthwhile. Come on guys wake up and smell the coffee enough is enough time for action. Is this not the straw that breaks the camel`s back, is this not motivation enough to tell TF that you cant treat people this way. Those 2 prats in management AJ & S are really a waste of time, way to go guys ( AJ & S ) thanks for all your help, i see you really stood up for the FOs.
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Old 20th Feb 2008, 02:52
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Yes it's called a rumour network but there's nothing written anywhere saying I can't post counter rumours. Seeing there is lack of informed posts from you I guess you have nothing concrete to rebuke me.

Woobly you have so many pre-conceived ideas about me just from my posts in such a short time that I think I have hit all the right spots with you. Like I said before, it takes one to know one. Thank you for calling me an arrogant with a know it all attitude. Now I will be perfect to join an MH cockpit. After this I just need to hone my skills in being power hungry, screwing up other people's lives and backstabbing after which I can represent you as an official in MAPA
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Hey Guys! Remain professional as what we always keep saying BUT don't seem to keep up to it...

Its hoped to be constructive forum we wish!!

Safe and Happy Flying!!
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No no chrome my little sister.

You have all the attributes to remain exactly where you are. MH would just destroy your fragile little ego little girl.

Seems to me that you should look into the mirror because all you seem to do is blow off hot air. Now that your good friend dandie fernandie has ripped you off you are no longer the staunch kiss ass supporter you used to be. I remember the days that you and your chum 420 were singing the praises of your beloved fat one!!!!! Funny how things change as hair appears on your balls and your voice deepens.

You and your kind just make me laugh. No balls and full of hot air and excuses. Crying like the spoilt kid you really are. Why don't you ask daddy for help as you always have. Perhaps he has someone on the inside to pull strings for you just as he bought your ATPL.

NATO, thats the term you should covet as your battle cry and say those words every night before you go to bed. Furthermore, you're just an FO, because you certainly don't appear to have the credibility to be a captain and quite frankly I don't see the captains from your esteemed establishment whining and complaining here!! perhaps it's because they are getting four times your salary, have sold you to the dogs and are laughing all the way to the bank hand in hand with your good mate TF. Who, by the way paid them off to screw you.

My poor little sister. " I've been around you know " And, I have achieved everything I have set out to do in my life. I have enjoyed more time on big jets than you have been on the planet. And, I enjoyed the real flying, the real night stops and the real money that flying used to pay. I don't have to be an AK bus driver or a Malay MH mapa type. Perhaps I'm a CX A scaler or one of the boys that set up RBA with Fox. I can tell you this my little sister. I am living the aviation dream. And I am the last of that generation.

It is precisely people like you that have destroyed a once proud industry, where we were looked upon by society as white collar workers, side by side with doctors and such. Where salary, terms and conditions were paramount. Where we stood side by side united as a force to be reckoned with. And believe me, the bloody bosses would shiver in their flying boots before trying to screw with us as a community.

What have you done?? You work for peanuts and accept truly substandard conditions. All in the name of the love of aviation, trying to get my foot in the door and all the other bull**** you use to add credibility to being a scab. And then, then you whine incessantly about what is handed to you. Well wake up and smell the roses. You have terms and conditions commensurate with what you agreed to.

Do you think that all the old farts like me got into flying because we hated aviation, hated the night stops in five star hotels drinking cocktails by the pool day in day out. Of course we loved flying. But we stood together just as those before us stood together as it was from the WWII boys that started this industry.

So what you gona do little girl. Cry here on PPrune like the little girl you are. Or, get of off your sorry ass and kick some management butt that, by the way needs some serious kicking. Can you guys pull together and all report sick system wide for a day. Can you? I don't think so!! And you know why?? Because you are a gutless pile of little girls. I will put pink panties on order for you next Christmas.

And before you attack me or apply to have me banned from this thread. Remember this. I don't give a rats ass about what you think or say about me. I have got in my hands everything you have ever dreamed of and more. Both personally, commercially and privately.

Wooblah.

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